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I did the same thing not to long ago, importing emails from an ACT
exported list. I ended up using reading the uploaded file via an ODBC
Text DSN. This lets the ODBC driver handle any corrupted
I have a CSV file that I want to read into variable (see below). Before
doing so I think I should test the construction of the file to ensure that
its valid otherwise I think there is a risk of the process falling over if
it encounters a badly constructed file somewhere a long the way. How can I
could get you there. (if
there are five columns, the listlen should ALWAYS be 5, right?)
Jerry Johnson
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I have a CSV file that I want to read into variable (see below). Before
doing so I think I should test the construction of the file to ensure that
its
82332000
m: 0418 806 166
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First, wrap the read and processing in a cftry, so that even if the data
is bad, you won't break.
Next, you
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, your test scenarios should not be homogenous (testing
only one
transaction); they should mimic a cross section of typical user
transactions
during peak load.
I'll second what Adam says here. Real load test statistics can only
come from extensive tests on your own application using
I'm looking for CFMX load test statistics for a shopping cart-type
application which were not done by macromedia.. sort of validating the cfmx
platform for a major client. Anyone know where I can find some?
Ken
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are going to do load testing on your own server,Make sure that
you do not enable debug mode while load testing as It adds a huge amount of
load to the servers and the statistics generated from the load test are not
accurate because of the excess stress from producing the debug information.
Ezine
The only way to get true load statistics is to have your specific
application formally load tested using a commercial grade load testing tool,
and to have your database filled with production-scale data during the
tests. Also, your test scenarios should not be homogenous (testing only one
to be careful if you hire someone to load test
your servers from a remote location (Actually, don't do it.. any load
tester worth his or her salt won't suggest that). A single consumer DSL
line (for example) doesn't have the bandwidth for a large number of
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For best results
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;) I read my own book to prepare for the test.
I'm sure there is an irony there.
At 05:16 PM 11/7/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Right -- I've noticed that. The study guides I've found, the sites --
nothing is updated for MX.
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Developer test?
Just for the record..
Neither cfcertification, nor CF_Buster have been
updated for MX yet.
At 01:39 PM 11/7/2002 -0600, you
Thanks -- I'm taking it on the 19th, though. Oh well... I'll just
browse through some books.
--D
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Hi again:
I'm taking the Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer test for kicks
soon. Anyone have any good (free) resources for study material? I work
with CF everyday, but it'd be nice to know what's on the test, and maybe
answer some sample questions beforehand.
Thanks!
--Dave
Thursday, November 7, 2002, 12:10:25 PM, David Notik wrote:
I'm taking the Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer test for kicks
soon. Anyone have any good (free) resources for study material? I work
with CF everyday, but it'd be nice to know what's on the test, and maybe
answer some
Just for the record..
Neither cfcertification, nor CF_Buster have been updated for MX yet.
At 01:39 PM 11/7/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Thursday, November 7, 2002, 12:10:25 PM, David Notik wrote:
I'm taking the Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer test for kicks
soon. Anyone have any
test?
Just for the record..
Neither cfcertification, nor CF_Buster have been updated for MX yet.
At 01:39 PM 11/7/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Thursday, November 7, 2002, 12:10:25 PM, David Notik wrote:
I'm taking the Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer test for
kicks
soon. Anyone have
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Has anyone noticed this, running cfmx, win2k, sql2000(if it matters) and
viewing the site on IE6(suprise
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Michael Dinowitz
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The list footers are defined as any string of 60 or more of the following
characters (~-_). If your sig, comment or anything else equals or excedes
this then it will be treated as the footer delimiter and will be removed.
This is designed to make sure that the footers for the lists do not build
... (12)
. (6)
.(18)
these should count right
..tony
(its funny, I noticed this awhile ago, because, in my tag line, I have
always had 3 dots
before my name, and when my messages come through on the list, its
always like this (.tony) vs (...tony)
Tony Weeg
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We've found the problem and will be fixing it. I'm glad the lists are
working so well that people are concerned with a minor issue like that. :)
... (12)
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these should count right
..tony
(its funny, I noticed this awhile ago, because, in my tag
The software works so well I usually assume any error is on my side (and it pretty
much always is.)
Except this seemed like a really itty bitty baby line monster, which I've met before.
Thanks for caring enough to fix such a small thing.
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... (12)
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these should count right
..tony
(its funny, I noticed this awhile ago, because, in my tag line, I have
always had 3 dots
before my name, and when my messages come
Actually, the person who's fixing it is the person who wrote the server
underneath the list code; Howie Hamlin. You are aware that we use iMS for
the processessing of the mail along with the CF code base.
(www.coolfusion.com)
The list serves to find all the smallest issues that may exist and it
/software/solaris/jit/
Joe
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From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Native compilation of a Java class is completely different from
JIT which is
different from
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From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
I dont think ... Java's Bytecode is the same as C# MSIL..
They dont perform the same... I think C#'s MSIL or compiled code
To Matt's comment..
I dont think Java's Bytecode is the same as C# MSIL.. or it works the
way...
IF it did.. we would see same performance and its NOT.
I am a member of the Mono project which is building .NET for the Linux
platform. I would suggest believing my actual experience and
Then, I guess there is no point in paying attention to best practices
or any other discipline that leads to writing efficient code.
Best practices and writing efficient code has nothing to do with code
optimization.
Taking that line of thought further, we should not worry about sloppy
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From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
I'm on vacation, so I don't have the time nor do I feel like finding
documentation to prove my point.
I havent found any docs that prove your point... NOR am i going to
waste my time to research and prove your point.
First google hit for Java's Bytecode is the same as C# MSIL:
C#, as
If you saying Java's Bytecode is the SAME as C#'s MSIL code,
C# MSIL code is Platform Independent?
Joe
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From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:30 AM
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I'm on vacation, so I don't have the time nor do I feel like finding
documentation to prove my point.
I havent found any docs that prove your point... NOR am i going to
waste my time to research and prove your point.
First google hit
On Friday, September 20, 2002, at 10:46 , Joe Eugene wrote:
True, *similar*(concept) emphasized, then the CLR plays a big role in code
execution.. translating MSIL into native code.. *AS Needed*..
C# - compiles to MSIL - loaded into CLR - interprets validates code
then uses JIT compiler to
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From: Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
On Friday, September 20, 2002, at 10:46 , Joe Eugene wrote:
True, *similar*(concept) emphasized, then the CLR plays a big role
On Friday, September 20, 2002, at 01:40 , Joe Eugene wrote:
this means less overhead and code will execute even
faster than a traditional C++ program.
I'm not sure how you arrive at that (unfounded) conclusion...
Are you talking about eg(IBM's version) Java Compiler, where you can
complie
Native compilation of a Java class is completely different from JIT which is
different from straight interpretation. Ideally when a method is called it
is compiled just in time to native instructions and then the native
instructions are executed, this can often be faster, even on a first run,
: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Native compilation of a Java class is completely different from JIT which is
different from straight interpretation. Ideally when a method is called it
is compiled just in time to native instructions
Sean,
This is what i understand from Microsoft's documentation. In Theory
MS says there is no difference between C#.net code and VB.net code but they
also push C# and say C# is optimized to perform better.
One of our senior MS developer even proved this right.. MS says
C# is their biggest weapon
Quoting Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As Matt correctly pointed out, cfparam is runtime validation not
compile-time type checking.
Whatever (I don't claim to know anything about that). But would adding
optional int and double etc. declarations next to var really make
CFML a different
a million users running
one iteration each.
This is a trap that lots of people fall into, because it seems pretty
sensible on its face and because it's easier than doing a load test, but
you'd really have to run a load test to see what difference it makes with
regular code, rather than testing
optimized than CF 5. If it is, then be happy,
maybe cheer a little, and move on to getting your work done, satisfied that
MacroMedia and CF are moving forward. (I don't recall anyone posting the
timing test results for CF5 vs CFMX. Maybe someone did, but I missed it.)
Saying cf *can be better
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 06:48 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
My point is that it's worthwhile putting things that aren't
presentation
logic in something other than CF where possible. It has always been
worthwhile to do so, and may be more worthwhile now. For years, we've
typically used
different results; the first
type, though, reflects real-world usage and the second doesn't.
Unfortunately, it's a lot easier to perform the second type of test, so
that's what people do.
In any case, though, I'm perfectly willing to admit that CF isn't the ideal
calculation engine. Sure, it would be nice
I think that Matt would agree that this can be a very important
determination if an application, nay web site, scales well.
I would not agree. As I have stated in previous emails; code
optimization is generally a waste of time in the whole scheme of things.
-Matt
FYI... .NET/C#/VB.net gets compiled into MSIL and the runtime runs the
code
compiled* not interpreted. Com's in .NET are supposedly slower
Classes are the new standard of development.
Actually no, MSIL is simply bytecode just like Java that must be
interpreted by a virtual machine. However,
- webappermb
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
always strongly recommended the use of a compiled language
for the middle
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
I think that Matt would agree that this can be a very important
determination if an application, nay web site, scales well.
I would not agree. As I have stated in previous emails; code
optimization is generally a waste of time
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 02:37 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Whatever (I don't claim to know anything about that). But would adding
optional int and double etc. declarations next to var really make
CFML a different language? We use strongly typed stuff all the time
when working with a
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 11:03 , Dick Applebaum wrote:
Sean, even I can write a pre-compile scan that builds a table of any
variables that are defined and typed -- and the a post-compile scan
that replaces the currently generated code with optimal code for any
variables that are
It appears that I am in a minority (yet, another one) that is concerned
about the performance of CF code.
Pi**in' in the wind, Blowin' on all your friends...
I am curious -- are the majority of CF sites on shared servers; or on
dedicated servers where the owner has the option to use any of
as C# MSIL.. or it works the way...
IF it did.. we would see same performance and its NOT.
Likewise, it's not necessarily true that
if it takes five seconds to add two numbers, it'll take ten seconds to do
the same thing twice.
Do you have any test numbers to prove the above?
Joe
Sounds RAD to me. :)
Kevin Graeme
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
I think that Matt
Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 02:37 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Adding types to the language as an aid to the compiler - which is why
we're discussing this -
Not necessarily just as an aid to the compiler. That's why I made the
step from discussing ColdFusion
Likewise, it's not necessarily true that if it takes
five seconds to add two numbers, it'll take ten
seconds to do the same thing twice.
Do you have any test numbers to prove the above?
I think you're missing the point, which is simply that iterative tests
aren't representative
I dont think ... Java's Bytecode is the same as C# MSIL..
They dont perform the same... I think C#'s MSIL or compiled code is closer
to machine code and it performs better than bytecode..
Here are some docs..
http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/Tutorials/CSTutorial1AN.asp#Getting%20Started%2
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I dont think ... Java's Bytecode is the same as C# MSIL..
They dont perform the same... I think C#'s MSIL or compiled
code is closer to machine code and it performs
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 03:07 , Alex Hubner wrote:
Does anybody noticed performance differences (such as Joe's looping
code) between CFMX for J2EE and stand-alone CFMX Servers?
This is a factor of whichever JVM you are using - on Mac OS X, CFMX uses
the built-in Apple 1.3.1 JVM
Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Hi,
I've read an interview with Geoffrey Greene about CFMX for J2EE and
found this:
Q: How are CFML page compiled in this version? How are page requests
: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Likewise, it's not necessarily true that if it takes
five seconds to add two numbers, it'll take ten
seconds to do the same thing twice.
Do
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 07:44 PM, Joe Eugene wrote:
instead of atypical test cases like looping a million times.
I think it's more than equal in its competitiveness with other web
application servers. The fact is, most business apps aren't doing
the sorts of calculations
Aw, 'cmon Ben, one of the great advantages of CF is it can address a
broad range of applications -- all Joe wants do to is extend the range
help MM sell into a broader range of solutions.
Will MM get them all? --Never!.Can MM get more? All of us
certainly hope so!
What if optimizing
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Aw, 'cmon Ben, one of the great advantages of CF is it can address a
broad range of applications -- all Joe wants do to is extend the range
help MM sell into a broader range of solutions.
Will MM get them all? --Never!.Can MM get more? All of us
At 11:17 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, Ben Forta wrote:
So, yep, suggestions on how to improve CF are useful, and we'll keep
doing just that. Just don't expect CF to do it all, it can't and frankly
it shouldn't.
--- Ben
Yet
C'mon Ben! :)
~Todd
Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
that. Just don't expect CF to do it all, it can't and frankly
it shouldn't.
Dick, thanks again on your support...
Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
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From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Aw, 'cmon Ben, one of the great advantages of CF is it can address a
broad range of applications -- all Joe
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Dick,
My only point is that they'll always be a better way to do something,
whether it is a small piece of code
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On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 08:17 PM, Ben Forta wrote:
Dick,
Oh, I agree. CF should keep getting better (and I believe it has been
doing just that).
My
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 01:12 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
That would make ColdFusion quite a different language! :)
Would it? Doesn't for instance cfparam do type checking?
As Matt correctly pointed out, cfparam is runtime validation not
compile-time type checking.
It turns out
enhancement, instead of just numeric and binary
).
Joe
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From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FW: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 09:41 , Dick Applebaum
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FW: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Well CF could use the same technique that VB did. VB optionally allows
variables to be declared as a type
Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 09:41 , Dick Applebaum wrote:
Rather I suggest that CFMX allow us to tell it a variable's type
(optionally) so that it can use that to generate efficient code,
That would make ColdFusion quite a different language! :)
Would it?
Matt Liotta wrote:
Every idea/technique that has been suggested thus far for code
optimization is a waste of time for almost all applications. Sure some
of these ideas/techniques code save a few milliseconds here and there,
but they offer very small gains in scalability. There are much
to be an integer.
Joe
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 09:41 , Dick Applebaum
ways to make even bad code
perform well, and it just makes good code perform better.
-Dan
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: code optimization (was RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test
Code
: RE: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code
Would the below be an easy change in CFMX?
cfset int foobar = 1
or
cfscript
int foobar = 1;
/cfscript
Would declare a coldfusion.runtime.Integer instead of the following.
cfset foobar = 1
or
cfscript
foobar = 1;
/cfscript
Would
Would it? Doesn't for instance cfparam do type checking?
But it doesn't do type checking; it does type validation. This was
discussed a while back during a CFC thread where I explained why CFCs
don't do type checking either.
-Matt
As you said it yourself (it was you, right?) there is a difference
between performance and scalability. And I think most people are
discussing performance here.
There is a difference between performance and scalability and most
people are discussing performance, which is my point. If people
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