RE: L3 Between VLANS- no RSM or MSFC [7:44462]

2002-05-18 Thread adam lee
A 2600 with a FE interface will do trunking and be the router on a stick. I haven't tried a 3600 but it should work as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

Re: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Schwantz
Michal Witte Try using area 11 range 137.20.1.0 255.255.255.192 instead. Hope that works. Schwantz ""Michael Witte"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address > configured > I have two loopbacks 137.20

Re: OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address >configured >I have two loopbacks 137.20.1.17/28 and 137.20.1.33/28. These are then of >course on networks 137.20.1.16 and 137.20.1.32. Taking the last octet of the >subnets into binary we have: > >16= 0001 >32= 0010

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Brian Hill
Look Priscilla, I am not trying to get in a pissing contest here, and I am not trying to "waste bandwidth" (though I don't know if I would worry about that, considering all of the things that flow through the Internet). All I was attempting to do was clarify what I was thinking, and I ADMITTED tha

Re: L3 Between VLANS- no RSM or MSFC [7:44462]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
But if he's trying to practice doing FastEthernet VLAN trunking. =) But I agree, if you're looking to simply route, get a router with 2 ethernet interfaces and connect one to each VLAN. if you need to route between more than 2 VLANs, then you'll need a router that supports trunking on the

Re: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread Cisco KIdd78
When does the new written exam go live( is live the proper term?) ;) >From: "Michael L. Williams" >Reply-To: "Michael L. Williams" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:2] >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 11:31:45 -0400 > >Just a quick note to everyone saying t

Re: L3 Between VLANS- no RSM or MSFC [7:44462]

2002-05-18 Thread nrf
If you want to do it really simply, just use a router that has 2 ethernet interfaces. ""Phil Lorenz"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm looking to mock up RSM/ MSFC type routing between VLANs. > > > > If my memory serves me correctly, can't I do this with a 45

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 07:29 PM 5/18/02, Brian Hill wrote: >First, the slot time (64 byte time) isn't much of an issue unless running at >100Mbps or faster, and isn't an issue at all running full duplex. Slot time is an issue for all CSMA/CD networks, regardless of transmission speed. It is certainly discussed as

book help [7:44466]

2002-05-18 Thread James Hampton
Ive recently finished all eight semesters of the Cisco Academy, and im looking for a book or books to help me to continue my knowledge base. Im not nessisarly interested in books just to pass certs, But that will help me in the real world, and go into extream detail, I love to break down configura

OSPF inter-area summarization [7:44465]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael Witte
I am trying to do a lab that needs a inter-area ospf summary address configured I have two loopbacks 137.20.1.17/28 and 137.20.1.33/28. These are then of course on networks 137.20.1.16 and 137.20.1.32. Taking the last octet of the subnets into binary we have: 16= 0001 32= 0010 Acording t

Re: interpeting show int command [7:44459]

2002-05-18 Thread dildog
r_r/irdshoin.htm#xtocid1 - Original Message - From: "McHugh Randy" To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: interpeting show int command [7:44459] > Does someone know of a link where I can learn how to interpet all the > details of a show interface command? I know its kinda

Re: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Marty Adkins
Here's a pretty good explanation of the STP timers, diameter, etc. Understanding and Tuning Spanning-Tree Protocol Timers http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/122.html Much easier to follow than the IEEE standard. Marty Adkins Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chesapeake NetCraft

L3 Between VLANS- no RSM or MSFC [7:44462]

2002-05-18 Thread Phil Lorenz
I'm looking to mock up RSM/ MSFC type routing between VLANs. If my memory serves me correctly, can't I do this with a 4500 (or better) router outfitted with an FE module ??? Can anyone elaborate and/ or offer a few clues to get me researching in the right area ??? Thanks !!! Phil

RE: interpeting show int command [7:44459]

2002-05-18 Thread Marko Milivojevic
There is useful Internetwork Troubleshooting Guide at: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm [watch for warp] Depending on interface type, check out appropriate chapter. Most of the things are well explained. In your case, you should check out: http

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Brian Hill
HmmmFor the 7 hop from edge thing, I stand corrected. Now that you mention "radius vs. diameter", I see what you mean. My thinking was that the diameter was calculated with the root at the center (3 switches to either side for 7 switches total). The problem with that is that it doesn't necessa

interpeting show int command [7:44459]

2002-05-18 Thread McHugh Randy
Does someone know of a link where I can learn how to interpet all the details of a show interface command? I know its kinda simple , but need to know what it all means. Like here's an example. The top part is self explanatory but the lower part is where I do not uderstand. sh int fastEthernet 0/1

RE: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Marko Milivojevic
> BTW, how many is too many? :-) Don't know about that, but I heard that one's enough, two's too little ;-) Marko. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44458&t=44417 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription i

Re: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
I'n not sure, but the beta was over May 6th, and results are due 6-8 weeks after that, so I would expect for it to change over sometime in July... perhaps August at the latest but that's just a guess. Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > When will the curr

Re: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
"Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >The 7 hop limit is from the root bridge > > No. It's from edge to edge. That's why it's called 'diameter'. not 'radius'.. hehe =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.p

Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
I wanted to post a followup I didn't mean to sound like I have an attitude, etc with my previous post... I've just always been a big believer in learning and understanding binary (and Hex) from the get go, especially for subnetting, bitswapping, etc.. I learned binary to decimal conversi

RE: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Steve Watson
This was not a comparison of network design methodologies, it was mean to be humorous (I totally agree with the top down process). The idea of "build a network and they will come" simply does not work! The context of the other book was that no network will function properly if Layer 1 is not desi

Re: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 2:03 PM -0400 5/18/02, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >At 08:49 PM 5/17/02, Steve Watson wrote: >>I am reading Priscilla's book "Top Down Network Design" for the second >>time for a refresher and decided to hit the pool after I got home. > >Thanks for reading Top-Down Network Design. I hope you h

Re: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Network design is an iterative process. I agree with you that it's not entirely linear. Top-Down Network Design doesn't deal so much with stacks or layers as it does with the need to do a logical design before a physical design. Also, it makes the important point that the first steps must invo

Re: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 08:49 PM 5/17/02, Steve Watson wrote: >I am reading Priscilla's book "Top Down Network Design" for the second >time for a refresher and decided to hit the pool after I got home. Thanks for reading Top-Down Network Design. I hope you had a nice swim and didn't drink too many beers at the pool.

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 06:21 AM 5/18/02, Brian Hill wrote: >Steven, > >The 7 hop limit is from the root bridge No. It's from edge to edge. The root is at the top of a hierarchy of switches. Think of the president's spot in an org chart, for example. The 7 hops is from one worker at the bottom of one branch talking

Re: TRANSCENDER AVAIABLE [7:43924]

2002-05-18 Thread suaveguru
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Re: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread Kevin Cullimore
Is it worthwhile to re-examine the assumption that an individual should start at one end of the all-important "stack" and work their way to the other end? As far as the process itself goes (although, all too often there's not a lot of process or method associated with design, but I'm sure we're a

RE: Passed CCIE written [7:44441]

2002-05-18 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
I did the new CCDP (CID 3.0) exam a week ago. As I was going through it, I was disappointed with the level of knowledge required to pass. I thought to myself that most of the material covered focused on CCNA/CCDA concepts - which again, is quite disappointing because by the time you do that exam

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
Actually, the 5-4-3 rule has everything to do with detecting collisions. It's a limiting factor of distance so that a collision will be detected within the first 64 bytes of a frame's transmission (also known as Ethernet's minimum frame size). It's preferable to detect a collision before the fra

Re: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread Erwin
If I still remember correctly, CCIE #350-001 exam will be replaced by CCIE #351-001 exam around October 2002. There will be an updated and more interesting new technology presented in the new exam wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > When will the current written-exam

Re: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When will the current written-exam expire? Hamid ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message news:... > Just a quick note to everyone saying thanks for all of the good info > and discussions. I've been in Groupstudy since I started studying > CCNA and it has been invaluable to me. > > I guess

Re: CCIE Number [7:44294]

2002-05-18 Thread Kevin Cullimore
The following excerpt comes from a post by #1026 from a little less than a month ago: The first CCIE, #1025, is/was Stewart Biggs. My understanding is that his certification has lapsed and he's off doing something else. I took the test from him in August, 1993 and became the second CCIE, #1026.

Re: NerdHeard.com: CCIEs $$ [7:44319]

2002-05-18 Thread Andy Crefeld
Actually John, you're wrong, I am a CCNP. Anyway, I'm really sorry about this post, and I recognize it was definitely a mistake. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44437&t=44319 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription

Re: VPN ERROR %CRYPTO-6-IKMP_MODE_FAILURE [7:44374]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Looks like the devices aren't configured with same properties. ""Alfredo Pulido"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello, > > I'm trying make a Fully Meshed VPN connections between 3 (Ra,Rb,Rc) routers > 827-4V, > > The used IOS is: c820-k8osv6y6-mz.122-2.T4.bin -

Re: Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Congrats, Mike! -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com ""Michael L. Williams"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just a quick note to everyone saying thanks for all of the good info and > discussions. I've been in Groupstudy since I started s

Re: CCIE Number [7:44294]

2002-05-18 Thread cebuano
I thought it's "kill-OR-bite". Or maybe you are expected to complete all requirements from ten-to-four. Any more time needed means you didn't make it. Ouch1! Elmer - Original Message - From: "Chuck" To: Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Number [7:44294] > 1024 is d

Passed the written... Now on to the lab!! [7:44442]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
Just a quick note to everyone saying thanks for all of the good info and discussions. I've been in Groupstudy since I started studying CCNA and it has been invaluable to me. I guess now it's time to gear up for the lab... WOOHOO (just to echo what others have said) If you're anywhere close

Passed CCIE written [7:44441]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I passed CCIE written. In my opinion, it's an old, useless test, and defintily needs updating. CVoice or CCDP is a tougher test. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1&t=1 ---

Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Michael L. Williams
The real question is why would you need such a tool. may as well take a subnet calculator, a Binary-decimal-Hex converter, etc. IMHO, there should be a basic binary/hex-decimal conversion and bitswapping quiz that one must pass just to take any Cisco exam.. Bitswapping can be done in

FXO Disconnect Tone [7:44439]

2002-05-18 Thread Reza
Hi group anyone knows the FXO's disconnect tone parameters ( cptone and detect-parameters ) in IRAN Thanks Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44439&t=44439 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: htt

RE: VG200 [7:44425]

2002-05-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
The 2 WIC slots are non-functional in a VG200. If you want to add voice modules you can only add 2 using the NM-2V. Tim CCIE 9015 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VG200 [7:44425] H

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Marko Milivojevic
> root. Historically, I am not sure why it's 7, but Ethernet > has a base hop > "limit" of 4 switches (5-4-3 rule), so it doesn't really As far as I remember, this is not true. 5-4-3 applies only to repeaters/hubs - not bridges/switches. R/H amplify received signal, while B/S regerate i

IGRP and loopback interfaces ? [7:44434]

2002-05-18 Thread Phil Barker
Hi, Not really a question but more of an observation. I put a lab together do demonstrate IGRP unequal cost load balancing recently, and configured 2 loopback addresses at either end of the network and advertised them via the network command. I calculated the BWigrp + DLYigrp i.e the metric ass

Re: Bitswapping Tool [7:44385]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
Plus, there is no more token ring on lab. ""Darren S Crawford"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You won't have time. Besides nothing like would be allowed. > > D. > > At 01:49 PM 5/17/2002 -0400, Jason Greenberg wrote: > >Does anyone know if the CCIE lab gives y

Re: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
I believe the 5-4-3 rule is for repeaters, not switches. ""Brian Hill"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Steven, > > The 7 hop limit is from the root bridge, as STP calculates the tree from the > root. Historically, I am not sure why it's 7, but Ethernet has a bas

Re: VG200 [7:44425]

2002-05-18 Thread Steven A. Ridder
2. ""Ismail Al-Shelh"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello All > > Anybody know what is the maximum VICs can be installed in VG200 ? > > I guess only two VICs can be installed in slot 1 which contains the voice > network module, but still there is another two

Re: Network Design... Hmmm [7:44417]

2002-05-18 Thread cebuano
Honestly speaking, it depends on what the chapter's topic is about. If it's about subnetting, then you work from the core down. If it's about summarization, then you work from the egde up. I guess it boils down to Murhpy's Law: Where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit. ;-) Elmer

RE: STP and 7 hops [7:44408]

2002-05-18 Thread Brian Hill
Steven, The 7 hop limit is from the root bridge, as STP calculates the tree from the root. Historically, I am not sure why it's 7, but Ethernet has a base hop "limit" of 4 switches (5-4-3 rule), so it doesn't really matter so much. The reason for the 4 hop limit in Ethernet is simple: For 10 Mb o

Re: VoIP & Netmeeting [7:43949]

2002-05-18 Thread Edmund Woltynski
Priscilla Thanks for your input - tried all your suggestions but the issue still remains that I get connection in all but netmeeting to a remote phone (in that specific direction). There is something I am missing with the way netmeeting gets relayed and it may be a gateway problem but I cannot se