It's kinda fuzzy. I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book
covering this topic as well as have written my own "materials" for training,
etc covering this topic. IMHO, DoD is credited with "creating the internet"
even though at the time it wasn't called the internet and didn't use
You may want to sign up for the IETF mailing list and post such a question
to Vint Cerf. He is credited as a co-founder of TCP/IP.
-chris
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It's kinda fuzzy. I myself just got through doing a tech review of a book
covering this topic as well as have written my own "materials" for training,
etc covering this topic. IMHO
I know I shouldn't say "written", but I seem to remember a Wired atricle
mentioning Judy Estrin and Bill Carrico, working under Vint Cerf, as the
authors of TCP's predacessor in 1975. Anyone know?
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The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
At 02:04 PM 3/27/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote:
>I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
>written by the Depertment of Defense.
I agree that you should question that.
> I am confident that ARPAnet was
>co
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> >I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
> >written by the Depe
Start with RFC 01 ietf org site.
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I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote tha
No, you Bostonians aren't that bad. I'll be there in June for my hubby's
MIT reunion. Should be interesting.
I don't know the history of UDP. It sounds like it could have come from
Berkeley or Santa Cruz or Eugene or some such pinko, commie, anarchist
place! ;-)
Priscilla
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I used to work with a guy who loved to call University of Berkely the
"University of Bezerkly."
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i heard a saying one time that the only good things that came out of berkley
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no offense to alumni
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The history of TCP/IP is somewhat muddy, as you can imagine.
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>I am a technical reviewer for a book, and someone wrote that TCP/IP was
>written by the Depertment of Defense. I am confident that ARPAnet was
>commissiond by the DoD in the 60's to BBN, and maybe TCP/IP was derived from
>these early protocls, but to say the the DoD, or BBN or anyone other than
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> > virtue of adding new networks to the mix, 'ARPA NET' was de-regulated in
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>ARPA managers were irritated by the lack of communications between diverse
>systems and the need to learn many arcane command languages to talk to each
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>Priscilla
But ARPANET just gave you the pipes. You still had to use CP/CMS on
the 360/67, MULTICS on the Honeywells, NCP CLI on the
Having a network made the problem of command language incompatibility less
of an issue. A researcher could use the hardware and OS of choice and at
least send messages to a different piece of hardware with some other OS.
With the right software, one could send messages to users and also execute
My understanding is Vint Cerf, was the creator of the TCP/IP protocols. Not
sure but was he not commissioned by DOD/BBN during the ARPAnet days..
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Vint Cerf wasn't commissioned. He was a graduate student at UCLA. BBN set
up the infrastructure of the ARPANET and got the Interface Message
Processors (routers) and the 56-Kbps links up and running. To use the
ARPANET, universities had to write software for the devices that connected
to the A
Yea, it was Al Gore who invented TCP/IP and the internet, all by
himself.
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Vint Cerf wasn't commissioned. He
Well, if we're veering off into the realm of political commentary and
putdown, I suppose it's ok to ask whether George W. Bush could spell TCP/IP
"all by himself".
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> putdown, I suppose it's ok to ask whether George W. Bush could spell TCP/IP
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Well, if we're veering off into the realm of political commentary a
: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:12 PM
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And I've heard that the US side in Desert Storm used Banyan for their
networking systems, not TCP/IP!?
Priscilla
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What?? Those of you who insist on detracting a good conversation with
needless comments like that have to much time on your hands, Don.
Why don't
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What?? Those of you who insist on detracting a good conversation with
needless comments like that have to much time on y
Oppenheimer
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And I've heard that the US side in Desert Storm used Banyan for their
networking systems, not TCP/IP!?
Priscilla
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No, we upgraded it ourselves Rico, I was there throughout the
ninetieswe
went from Banyan environments to IP (Unix/NT).
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