x27;Eddie Parra'; Desai, Inamul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
hi Eddie ;
i was waiting someone from cisco to answer the question which i raised
yesterday ,i love to work on the Cisco products ..but alas...love is not
enough ...wat Ton of features the Cisco sw
Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco (damn!!!)
>Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:40:31 EST
>
>Cisco Rules the market!!! Simple as that!!! Get off it!!! How bout a
>technical conversation, damn!?!?! --- (drunk) ;)
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/2-NP
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2000 7:58 PM
> To: Eddie Parra
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
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> This is the second email I have seen from someone at Cisco slamming the
> competition and promoting their stuff today. If your a sales guy
> fine,
oduction
environment. They take the serial numbers down to ensure this. This way
SmartNet can never be purchased for them.
-Eddie
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ember 12, 2000 9:48 AM
To: Eddie Parra
Cc: Bharat Suneja; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Eddie Parra wrote:
> Redback is another impressive company... I have been researching them a
lot
> lately. They are forming well...
>
Red
Usual disclaimers apply.
First, there's no question that Cisco certifications will continue to
have value.
Second, the networking market is not homogeneous. There are factors
where characteristics of the IOS that are quite desirable for
enterprises are specifically undesirable for carrier ma
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> Bharat Suneja
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:00 AM
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> Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
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> Couldn't agree with you more. I do happen t
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, John Nemeth wrote:
> On Mar 29, 10:18am, Brian wrote:
>
> This just illustrates why one should work through a knowledgable
> reseller, instead of trying to put something together on their own. I
> did some number crunching (prices in CDN$, prices may vary, etc.
> etc.):
-Eddie
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Desai, Inamul
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:28 PM
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> > Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
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I am in canada and we compared for both products including same $ of
100/Gig. ports, service contract for
2 years and future backplane upgrade and addition of
more modules. It turned out only CDN $ 1 diffrence
between Cisco and Extreme for 2 6509s or 2 Extremers because we get better
deal as
Cisco Rules the market!!! Simple as that!!! Get off it!!! How bout a
technical conversation, damn!?!?! --- (drunk) ;)
Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/2-NP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Even if I knew I had only 1 more week to live, I would still schedule
my CCIE lab. I would just have to work a li
On Mar 29, 10:18am, Brian wrote:
}
} We had a need to upgrade our workcloset switches.
}
} We needed 72 10/100 ports, gigabit capibility, dual power.
}
} Cat 5000, 3 24 port 10/100 blades, gigabit, Supervisor, and dual power,
} came to like $65000 or some crazy number like that. total switch f
ld have to do something to solve these problems then
there
> will not be any problem to win ANY project against the young guys
>
>
> thx
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eddie Parra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 5:07 P
Comments inline.
Eddie said:
> > I will like to add something to this also. I was
> the director of technology for a startup .dot-com
> before I worked at Cisco. I couldn't find ANYONE
> to hire for over 6 weeks who knew Juniper, Extreme,
> or Foundry. This isn't a slam, this is a fact.
> Ther
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Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
Couldn't agree with you more. I do happen to work for a company that's
mostly non-Cisco - and heavy on every other platform you can think of -
Redback, Extreme, Juniper, et al and I'd pretty much love to get my
hands wet
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To: Desai, Inamul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
Inamul,
What do you need the switch to do? I am not sure what your application
is, but most enterprises come NO WHERE close to either
p; Redback.
Bharat Suneja
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
> I wil
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Desai, Inamul
Sent: December 11, 2000 5:32 PM
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Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
We have gone comparing application can Extreme and Cisco
deliver. We met both Cisco reps and
N the best support
group available 24-7-365. Sometimes technology isn't the deciding factor.
-Eddie
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Bharat Suneja
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Subject: Re: eXtreme ,junipe
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-Eddie
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From: Andy Walden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:58 PM
To: Eddie Parra
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
This is the second email I have seen from someone at Cisco slamming the
competition and
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
We have gone comparing application can Extreme and Cisco
deliver. We met both Cisco reps and extreme and we have
good relation with local Cisco office cos we have been
Cisco customer
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> From: Eddie Parra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 4:07 PM
> To: Desai, Inamul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
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> Inamul,
>
> What do you need the switch to do? I am not sure
---
>From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
>
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>I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
>thought before making
treme.
Inamul
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From: Joseph Ezerski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:38 AM
To: 'Bharat Suneja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
You bring up very good points. I would like to add another. I work for a
namul
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From: Joseph Ezerski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:38 AM
To: 'Bharat Suneja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
You bring up very good points. I would like to add another. I work for a
December 11, 2000 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
> Does anyone have any problems getting Cisco products? I've heard from a
few
> friends that Cisco is having trouble delivering their equipment, so people
> are turning to Extr
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From: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Found
Message-
From: Joseph Ezerski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:38 AM
To: 'Bharat Suneja'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
You bring up very good points. I would like to add another. I work for an
ISP and there is a lot to b
Due to the fact that Cisco Certs are very technology centric as well as the massive
install base of Cisco based solutions, I would expect that the certs will retain their
value for a good period of time. However, it is always wise to keep abreast of more
than one implementation of technology i
: Bharat Suneja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Ju
I'd just like to point out one fact that most enterprises do give a lot of
thought before making purchase decisions - Extreme, Foundry, Juniper, et al
DO NOT have end-to-end solutions. Cisco does.
The former also do not have a trained pool of network engineers to recommend
and implement their pro
I guess you better call Prometric and sign up to take your JCNA or your
ECNA.
Being Cisco Certified will not lose any luster, no matter who does what.
How
much of the content in those certifications DOES NOT apply to any other
vendor? Nearly none with the exception of a few proprietary protocols.
bility.
-Eddie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Andy Walden
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:19 AM
To: Mohamed Heeba
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: eXtreme ,juniper, Foundary and Cisco
I think that training and certific
I think that training and certificates is a market all unto itself. The
Cisco training portion could break out and stand alone because you still
have to know about the foundations of network to get through it. When
someone else develops a training and cert program as comprehensive, then
the train
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