Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Our club uses about a dozen permanent marks, and most of them are either CG or Navy marks or buoys; each is assigned a letter for making the course easy to note on a board. When a dropped mark is used, it is denoted "X" and a bearing from the start is stated; this is generally only for weekly RTB

Re: Stus-List Transom cover to protect from sun

2020-03-06 Thread Dave. via CnC-List
I’ve not thought of the canvas cover idea but I did have a local Seattle guy give me a quote to cover the entire transom with vinyl matching the hull color and with the name on top. I think I would have gone that route if we were not planning to sell SLY. The reverse shear transom sure takes a

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Callisto was rolled and tipped with Pettit EzPoxy (I think, that is the can on the boat) in red about 4-5 years ago, and is not holding up well. Polishing and waxing brought the colour back, but a few months into summer, it was already showed signs of oxidation. I agree on the comment about

Re: Stus-List Transom cover to protect from sun

2020-03-06 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I have a transom ‘skirt’ (after all a boat is always referred to as a female) that covers the transom only using simple snaps around the stern pulpit. It took a few try’s by the canvas maker but it fits well, including slots for the ladder and back stay. I had decals with the boat’s name put on

Re: Stus-List Transom cover to protect from sun

2020-03-06 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I think that would be ugly on your beautiful C 35 Even uglier than faded paint. If the transom is all that’s faded so far just redo it. I think you painted with awl craft not awlgrip a few years back. I have good experience with awlgrip and i really did not treat it well with wash or wax. I did

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I am not sure if I would be interested in sailboat racing around there. In fact nowadays i am not sure i am interested in sailboat racing at all until i see a sail close by. Then the skills i learned in racing and the adrenaline peaks much to the dismay of one crew, the Admiral some say, but good

Stus-List Transom cover to protect from sun

2020-03-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
The thread on paint was timely. I commented that I was beginning to see some fading on Touche's transom as it faces the sun in my Pensacola slip. Red seems to be particularly susceptible to fading. I just talked to my canvas maker about making a custom "transom cover". The cover would cover the

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Had Touche' painted with Awlcraft 2000 Sunfast Red in 2011. (Awlcraft is easier to repair than AwlGrip.) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsZWl4THRKbnNmbGM Wash it periodically with AwlWash and polish it with AwlCare. Sides still look great. Seeing a bit of fading on the transom.

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Edd, On Narragansett Bay almost all the clubs use Gov't marks augmented by RC/YC dropped marks for their courses.  If a mark starts drifting or the USCG pulls a gov't mark the race is normally abandoned. Narragansett bay East passage is defined by the USCG as a "Narrow Channel" and therefor

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
It does look great, but it is hot. For a balsa core boat probably not noticeable, but for a solid boat it is. Joe Coquina original color 1973 to 1979: http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/earlycoquina1.jpg dark blue 1979-2020: http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/coquina1.jpg On

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List
Previous owner had Caposhi awl gripped in 2006. Still looks good. There is some deck spots that need to be touched up due to previous owner neglect. Jeff Caposhi C 35 mk 1 #54 Port Stanley On. On Fri., Mar. 6, 2020, 1:46 p.m. Richard Bush via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This is

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
That would undoubtedly be PPG Concept. I used that as well, at least as good as Awlgrip. Bill Coleman From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matt Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 2:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: wolf...@erie.net Subject:

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Red is the absolute hardest color to make colorfast. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Greg Alimenti via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Greg Alimenti Subject: Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls I applied

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Greg Alimenti via CnC-List
I applied Awlgrip to my topsides and deck in 2001. The ‘vivid red’ on the topsides is fading but polishes up well in the Spring. I have had to repaint the transom on my 29 Mk1 twice since then and I repainted the deck (offwhite) in 2017. Greg Alimenti St. Joseph, MI C 29 Mk1 From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
I have received the "don't go with a dark color" advice many times, but if you look at the vast majority of anything that isn't a form of white, they are invariably Navy or Flag blue...and they look great! Thanks for all the responses thus far... (and keep 'em coming!); Richard s/v

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List
Depends on who is doing the prep work? Is it being done in the yard or at a proper Marine shop? Mine should have come in at under C$20K but I did a lot of the deck removal, sanding and prep work. Actual cost was much higher (don’t ask). I was quoted $25K for the deck by a Marine shop. The

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Coquina was painted dark blue in 1979 and again in 1985. The paint has done well, no fading or anything, more like just gloss fading to not so glossy. The boat *really* needs another paint job, but that is from getting run into or other signs of use over the decades, not paint failure. I am

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Glen $$$? John Conklin S/V Halcyon S/V Heartbeat www.flirtingwithfire.com On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List wrote:  We did our C 35 Mk I two years ago. Both topsides and deck. Topsides were done with Awlcraft plus clear coat and awlgrip for the deck. I am very happy

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
When I got Peregrine, my C 40, her topsides were painted Awl Grip Pearl Gray. The paint was 10 years old when I sold her and still looked great. I maintained the paint by washing it with a soft brush and Awl Wash every 3 or 4 weeks or so, and waxing with Awl Care at the beginning and end of the

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Grenadine is going into her second season with a hull paint job done in October 2018. It was four coats of Interlux Brightside, rolled and tipped, with successively finer sanding before each coat and successive thinning of the paint each coat. I let the paint harden over the winter of

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List
We did our C 35 Mk I two years ago. Both topsides and deck. Topsides were done with Awlcraft plus clear coat and awlgrip for the deck. I am very happy with the result. Make sure you get someone who is a professional on the gun for painting. Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax:

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
Richard, Our boat was originally red and painted dark blue with Awlgrip at least 15 years ago. We are the 3rd owner since it was painted so I am a little unsure of the exact time frame. The previous owner recommended the Awlgrip soap and polish in the spring, and we have continued that. We

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
I had my hull painted dark green (previously black); it was not Awlgrip, but a suitable Imron-like PPG paint as I recall; the cost for my 42 (about seven or eight years ago) was around $7K; it was done outdoors, so there are a few minor imperfections – but it looked great (lots of compliments);

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
Our club now has a permanent buoy that we use as a turning mark, but we used government marks or permanent marks placed by other yacht clubs (with their permission) for many years. We race upwind/downwind courses so our volunteer committee boats (normally sailboats) drop an inflatable mark

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Joe, no clue! She could see we were turning at the mark. Wind was light, but no one got near her side of the channel. No need for 5 blasts ... Joel On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:38 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Why did she care? Did she think you were all

Re: Stus-List Painted/Awlgrip Hulls

2020-03-06 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
This is a request for how many listers have painted or awlgripped hulls; if so, what color, how well are they holding up, are you happy with the work; are there issues with maintenance, any other pertinent info..cots, etcthanks! Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Why did she care? Did she think you were all going to keep going? Joe Della Barba Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 1:10 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related Last year for Hospice Cup the RC

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Last year for Hospice Cup the RC used a government mark. We did not need to cross the channel, just round the mark off Annapolis. The fleet arrived about the same time as a freighter (on the other side of the channel). The pilot hailed the RC and made her displeasure known. Can't please

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Using permanent marks makes sense and are typically in you chart plotter to make pre-programming easier. Neil 1982 C 32, FoxFire Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of dwight veinot via CnC-List Sent:

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
I agree too. > On March 6, 2020 at 11:58 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List > wrote: > > Same here agree with Joe > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > As usual, I

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Same here agree with Joe On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > As usual, I agree with Joe. > > > > *From:* CnC-List *On Behalf Of *Della > Barba, Joe via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, March 06, 2020 9:41 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:*

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
Agree with Chuck...that being said if its an offshore race waypoints are an option. But coastal? Too much room for accidental and intentional shenanigans. Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. From: CnC-List on behalf of Novabraid via

Stus-List Lewmar winch sale

2020-03-06 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
For anyone contemplating new winches that is not already inundated with their advertising, you should know that WestMarine is having a buy one get one free sale on Lewmar winches and handles. Ends on the 9th. I have no connection with WestMarine except that I have spent way too much money

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Novabraid via CnC-List
I have no firsthand experience with “virtual marks” in my racing history. But one of the best features of sailboat racing is mark roundings, especially when competition is close and there are tactical decisions that would allow one boat to gain places over another. How in the world are you

Re: Stus-List Speedo Transducer

2020-03-06 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
That might have been me, but I've since sold the old transducer and speedo to another sailor, as I decided I wasn't likely to install it. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 7:26 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <

Stus-List Speedo Transducer

2020-03-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
A while ago, someone was looking for a wheel for their speed transducer. I cannot find that particular post, is the original poster Here? Bill Coleman Erie PA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
As usual, I agree with Joe. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 9:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related IMHO this is a bad idea. The whole idea of how mark

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
IMHO this is a bad idea. The whole idea of how mark roundings happen in racing cannot work if the notional idea of where the mark is differs by even 5 or 10 feet from boat to boat. I would either use government marks or you all cough up enough cash to get an old Whaler and teenager to run

Re: Stus-List Racing Marks Question -- Not C Related

2020-03-06 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
I recall being in a race a number of years ago in which the mark was missing. The owner of the lead boat claimed the boat did a “navigational rounding” – which it may have done – but everyone was so skeptical that the race was abandoned. As long as you have a fleet of Corinthian sailors