My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side. Weather
helm yes, it could be a bear. Round ups never. I could bury the rail deep
and just keep plowing along.
My 30MKII's rudder will stall then round up out of control with to much
sail up and not enough tension on the backstay
incidence. Can help to move crew
weight aft as wind really picks up. It's not rocket science.
Allen Miles
S/V Septima
Hampton, VA
Oh yes, I was a rocket scientist.
From: Robert Gallagher
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:29 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 30 MKI we
I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other
advantages
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
C&C 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Robert Gallagher wrote:
> My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side.
> Weather helm yes,
ot
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other
advantages
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
C&C 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Fri, Nov 2
2:48 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
> I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other
> advantages
>
>
>Dwight Veinot
>
> Alianna
> C&C 35 MKII
>
> Head of St. Marga
the 20’s and
39’s were all getting new, deeper rudders. The swept back keels
didn’t / don’t help.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re
I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your
mast
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Rouhi
Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
MK1 is stiff for
cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Rouhi
> Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
> MK1 is stiff for sure but I just wish I had less weather helm. I generally
> reef in anything above 10 knots...
Isn't the sweet spot on a 30-1 only starting at 15+ knots?
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:09 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
yea i'm wi
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Curtis
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:09 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
> yea i'm with Ddwight on this one,
> My C&C30 mk1 # 675 loves 11 thru17 knots.
> I
us-List 30 MKI weather helm
I don’t think you should have to reef
that soon…what is the rake on your mast
From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi
Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List
-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Rouhi
Sent: November 27, 2013 2:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
It's raked about an inch forward... It's a recent change I made in an
attempt to reduce the weather helm...
C
-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi
> Sent: November 27, 2013 2:20 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
> It's raked about an inch forward... It's a recent change I made in an attempt
> to reduce the weather helm...
C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
From: f...@postaudio.net
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:43:13 -0600
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
Aaron — Dwight’s right, you’re going the wrong way! Rake aft about six to
eight inches and see what happens.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
you talking 10 kts true or apparent wind…is it usual for you have a
> reef in when most other boats around you don’t
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> Rouhi
> *Sent:* November 27, 2013 2:20 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subj
ed it forward to move
COE forward. Am I wrong?
Cheers,
Aaron R.
Admiral Maggie,
1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540
Annapolis, MD
From: f...@postaudio.net
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:43:13 -0600
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
Aaron — Dwight’s right, you’re going
Speaking from a practical. rather than theoretical standpoint, my experience
with my previous boat, a 1981 30mkI suggests to me that having the top of the
mast about 8-9” AFT of the gooseneck resulted in a well-balanced boat.
I guess your mileage may vary...
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Ocean
m] On Behalf Of Aaron
Rouhi
Sent: November 27, 2013 3:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
Hmmm I always thought with more mast rake the Center Of Effort moves
further aft which means wind pushing the boat from behind the CLR and as a
result weather helm incr
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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi
Sent: November 27, 2013 3:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI
weather helm
Hmmm I always thought with
more mast rake the Center
Of Effort moves further
aft which means wind pushing the bo
.com] On Behalf Of
dwight
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
Your thinking seems fine: I just have no experience with forward rake
that I can share. I have never tried that but I don't think it would
work good upwind.
Sail condition and trim have a significant impact on weather helm.
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Frederick G Street wrote:
> Speaking from a practical. rather than theoretical standpoint, my
> experience with my previous boat, a 1981 30mkI suggests to me that having
> the top of the mast abo
How can you tell how many inches of rake you have in the mast? I have a
back adjuster that is not hooked up to any thing? Should I pull it down 7
inches?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Don Newman wrote:
> Sail condition and trim have a significant impact on weather helm.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov
flatten it.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: Curtis
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:55 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
>How can you tell how many inches of rake
ing up.
Gary
30-1 # 593
- Original Message -
From: "Curtis"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
yea i'm with Ddwight on this one,
My C&C30 mk1 # 675 loves 11 thru17 knots.
I dont start thinking of a reef till
Beaufort, Sc.
>
>
>
> On 11/26/13, dwight wrote:
>> I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your
>> mast
>>
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaro
he mast is set
> incorrectly. The 30-1 is a stout craft it takes a lot of breeze to get
> it squirrely enough that I am worried about rounding up.
> >
> > Gary
> > 30-1 # 593
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Curtis"
> > To:
> > S
n and restore the
rake back to the official specs (6" to 8"). Hope that will make a difference.
Thanks again for all your notes and great suggestions as always...
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:07:20 -0800
From: paradigmat...@
From: Aaron RouhiSent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:33 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
I won't even come close to have as much experience as many of you guys here but I still r
t think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your
> mast
>
>
>
> _
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Rouhi
> Sent: November 26, 2013 7:31 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 30
t: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
I seem to be in the slot Curtis describes. I've never reefed under 20kt.
Ron
Wild Cheri
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:09 AM, Curtis wrote:
yea i'm with Ddwight on this one,
My
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ronald B. Frerker
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:19 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
> I seem to be in the slot Curtis describes. I've never reefed under 20kt.
> Ron
> Wild Ch
ling off the wind when
>> tacking. that was my fault. not the boat.
>>
>> 1981 C&C 30 MK1 #675
>>
>> Beaufort, Sc.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11/26/13, dwight wrote:
>>> I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the r
t;____
> From: Aaron Rouhi
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:14 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
>
>
>
>I never tried a 10" rake. I'll give
s
to move the masthead 7 inches.
Of course, your mast may not be plumb but you can use the tool above to see
where you need to be.
Good luck,
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>________________
> From: Aaron Rouhi
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
r
about 2.5 inches to move the masthead 7 inches.
Of course, your mast may not be plumb but you can use the tool above to see
where you need to be.
Good luck,
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
_
From: Aaron Rouhi
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Sent: Wednesd
ere the head of
the ram is. Easier than looking at the pressure gauge.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: allen
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather
Good tip. How do you determine 2 and 4 degrees? Simple trick?
Bill Walker
Evening Star
CnC 36
-Original Message-
From: Dennis C.
To: cnc-list
Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 9:06 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.
Good tip on the wheel marks. We do
Measured while on the hard from under the stern using simple algebra.
Allen
From: Wwadjourn
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:15 AM
To: capt...@yahoo.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm - marking wheel, etc.
Good tip. How do you determine 2 and 4 degrees
I use visuals on the genoa tracks and main sheets. Never thought of the
Navtec; I'll give it a try. Thanks Dennis.
Allen Miles
S/V Septima 30-2 #167
Hampton, VA
From: Dennis C.
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:06 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather
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