Zoom sometimes messes up resize increments

2011-01-15 Thread Jacob M. H. Smith
not. For example, it does not occur when I use 100 and 100, but it does occur when I use 47 and 47. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? If I am doing something wrong, how can I do it right? If it is a bug, how can I work around it? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Jacob

MKPinAnnotationView callout behind other pins

2010-01-19 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Hey everyone, To start off, Im sorry if this is the wrong mailing for cocoa touch and iPhone MapKit related questions but I didn't know where else to go and you guys haven't let me down in the past. Onto my question. I have an iPhone app that has pins dispersed across an area. When I click on

Notification when displays are detected?

2009-12-29 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Hey all, After some searching through the API, which apparently I am not good at, I figured asking was easier. Does anyone know of a notification that gets posted when another screen is added/detected. I figured it would be in NSWorkspace but I didn't see anything. Thanks. -Jake

Re: Notification when displays are detected?

2009-12-29 Thread Jacob Schwartz
the dock moves from one screen to another (on Snow Leopard at least). Solution: wait a second or so, then ask again. This notification is also sent when the screen arrangement or dock is reconfigured. I find this useful. Paul Sanders. - Original Message - From: Jacob

Re: Notification when displays are detected?

2009-12-29 Thread Jacob Schwartz
No: NSNotificationCenter *nc = [[NSWorkspace sharedWorkspace] notificationCenter]; And Paul, it does exist because the other notification I have set up get recognized works and I cped the code. Thanks for all the help guys. -Jake On Dec 29, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Dave Keck wrote: Does nc ==

Re: Notification when displays are detected?

2009-12-29 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Dave, victory is yours. What is the difference between that center and my center? -Jake Schwartz On Dec 29, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Dave Keck wrote: Does nc == [NSNotificationCenter defaultCenter]? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com)

Bad stardardUserDeafaults

2009-10-01 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Hello all, So I have a code segment that turns an NSString that is a file path on my computer into an NSURL, archives the NSURL into NSData, and then puts that into a NSMutableDictionary to be saved in the standardUserDefaults. I can archive and unarchive the NSData with no problem, but

Re: Bad stardardUserDeafaults

2009-10-01 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Alright I'll have to do it after I get out of class. I didn't post it right away in case this was a common mistake, simple use of a wrong method. Thanks -Jake On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, I. Savant idiotsavant2...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Jacob Schwartz wrote: So I

Re: Bad stardardUserDeafaults

2009-10-01 Thread Jacob Schwartz
]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x10013a7b0 Thank you again. -Jake On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:51 PM, I. Savant wrote: On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Jacob Schwartz wrote: I didn't post it right away in case this was a common mistake That's the problem. If you think about it, how can we know

Re: Bad stardardUserDeafaults

2009-10-01 Thread Jacob Schwartz
for all the help -Jake On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Jacob Schwartz wrote: NSMutableDictionary *defaultValues = [NSMutableDictionary dictionary]; NSURL *url = [NSURL URLWithString:[NSString stringWithFormat:@/ Users/jacobschwartz/Pictures

Disappearing NSStatusItem

2009-09-25 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Hello again, After making headway on my first cocoa app, I have run into an issue. I have created a NSStatusItem in my class called Application.m. When I run, the icon appears in my menubar but then disappears and becomes ineligable to click. I read something somewehere about thr garbage

Re: Disappearing NSStatusItem

2009-09-25 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Yeah, I threw in a release statement after and it didn't do anything different. When I read your reply, I thought what Bill said, that garbage collection was different from release/retain statements. -Jake Schwartz On Sep 25, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote: On Sep 25, 2009, at

Class for external monitor?

2009-09-21 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Hey everyone, I'm new to this mailing list and also new to objective-c/cocoa programming. I've gone through a book I picked up and I wanted to try to make a simple, run in the background application. To get to the point, I was looking through the documentation was looking for some class

Re: Class for external monitor?

2009-09-21 Thread Jacob Schwartz
Yeah, monitor without menu bar will work great, thank you and thanks to Graham, -Jake On Sep 21, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Scott Ribe wrote: Well I don't think there's a way to directly ask for the external monitor, but look at NSScreen first. Remember, on Mac it is easy to move the menu bar to

Display either date part or time part in LOCAL format

2009-07-05 Thread Jacob Rhoden
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Re: Detecting text under mouse

2009-06-13 Thread Jacob Rhoden
and posts saying there is no documentation! Does anyone know where I might find information on how to detect the accessability information under the mouse cursor? (I continue to search the apple documentation in the mean time) Thanks, Jacob FROM : Mr. George Warner DATE : Sat Jun 13 18:56:29

Detecting text under mouse

2009-06-12 Thread Jacob Rhoden
that is useful on Microsoft Windows for learning chinese: http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=chinese_dictionary_windows Best regards, Jacob -- Jacob Rhoden http://jacobrhoden.com ___ Cocoa

Understanding how to display a context menu

2009-03-10 Thread Jacob Rhoden
]; return theMenu; } - (NSMenu *)menuForEvent:(NSEvent *)theEvent { return [self defaultMenu]; } @end Any help much appreciated! Thanks, Jacob ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator

Date parsing problem (when running on iphone only)

2009-03-04 Thread Jacob Rhoden
Test[68041:20b] DATE: Monday 26 January 2009 3:47:33 pm + to 5432224 Im completely stuck on this one! Are are there any other easy ways to parse dates? Any help appreciated. Thanks, Jacob Jacob Rhoden http://jacobrhoden.com

Re: Date parsing problem (when running on iphone only)

2009-03-04 Thread Jacob Rhoden
On 4/3/09 10:15 PM, Jacob Rhoden wrote: Anyone experience this weird behaviour with date parsing? Given the following code, it produces a different log output when running in the simulator or on the iPhone!!! NSString* test = @Monday 26 January 2009 3:47:33 pm +; NSDateFormatter

Re: Date parsing problem (when running on iphone only)

2009-03-04 Thread Jacob Rhoden
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Re: Newbie: Learning path for my GTD app...

2009-03-04 Thread Jacob Rhoden
/ is a really good reference point (its a bit more terse, and uses language that beginners dont always understand). (I sent this earlier but it seems to have gotten lost) Best regards, Jacob On 4/3/09 4:40 PM, Biagio wrote: Hello. My first post. I'm learning to program using Xcode 3.1.2

Re: [Q] What causes an NSArrayController to know that an entity was inserted via a different window?

2009-02-24 Thread Jacob Evans
' Cocoa Programming For Mac OS X third edition book might help. Jacob ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com

How to handle clicks on NSOutlineView

2009-02-13 Thread Jacob Rhoden
)awakeFromNib { [outline setAction:@selector(loadMemberList:)]; } -(IBAction)loadMemberList:(id)sender { if(ldap.connected) { NSLog(@Load members); NSLog(@ site %@ ,[[outline selectedCell] name]); } } Thanks, Jacob -- Jacob Rhoden

Re: How to handle clicks on NSOutlineView

2009-02-13 Thread Jacob Rhoden
On 14/2/09 3:39 PM, Graham Cox wrote: On 14 Feb 2009, at 12:22 pm, Jacob Rhoden wrote: I am trying to do an action when an item in an NSOutlineView is clicked. How do I work out which item was actually clicked on? Ive tried all sorts of things and nothing seems to work. (Google or Cocoa

Re: Read lines from very large text file

2009-02-03 Thread Jacob Rhoden
, see a \n or a \r and we know we have reached the end of a entry in the log. Thanks, Jacob -- Jacob Rhoden http://jacobrhoden.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do

Re: Read lines from very large text file

2009-02-02 Thread Jacob Rhoden
, Alexander Spohr wrote: NSInputStream? Am 02.02.2009 um 14:42 schrieb Jacob Rhoden: I am wondering what the best way to read a text file, line by line, when the file size is much larger than available memory. I know there are helper functions like stringWithContentsOfFile:encoding:error

Read lines from very large text file

2009-02-02 Thread Jacob Rhoden
not been of much extra help here. Thanks! Jacob Jacob Rhoden http://jacobrhoden.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments

Re: Mac Pro memory sizes

2009-01-11 Thread Jacob Rhoden
Depending on what sort of data you has, you could try allocating all of your memory on startup, organised into related zones. That way you are not constantly allocating/deallocating anything. Just overwriting values. This can provide an unbelievable speed inprovement, and low memory

NKE Kernel extension

2009-01-09 Thread Jacob Rhoden
Hi, Anyone here ever done any Network kernel extensions? I am trying to start by doing something simple as monitoring network traffic, but the apple documentation isn't getting me very far? Anyone know any useful websites or tutorials in this area? Best regards, Jacob

Stumped on memory problem :(

2009-01-05 Thread Jacob Rhoden
I have read the memory management documentation over and over but still cannot work out the problem with this code, can anyone see it? I have spent hours on this! +(NSMutableArray*)getStrings { NSMutableDictionary* dict = [[NSMutableDictionary alloc] init]; [dict setValue: @ forKey:

Making an object release itself?

2008-12-30 Thread Jacob Rhoden
Im still learning cocoa, so I have a question about if this is a good idea or a crazy noob mistake. Given the following code can I alter it so that postreader auto releases itself? -(IBAction) fetchThreads:(id) sender { [progress startAnimation:nil]; PostReader* reader = [[PostReader

Re: Odd EXEC_BAD_ACCESS after executing URLRequest

2008-12-30 Thread Jacob Rhoden
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Sorting an NSMutableArray

2008-12-20 Thread Jacob Rhoden
need to apply a mathematical algorithm using information from each object to determine which one is greater than the other. Thanks! Jacob http://jacobrhoden.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please

CLLocationDistance contents?

2008-12-18 Thread Jacob Rhoden
/km? How do I display it on screen in a platform independent way? I cant find any examples in the developer centre thingy. Thanks -jacob --- http://jacobrhoden.com/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do

Re: CLLocationDistance contents?

2008-12-18 Thread Jacob Rhoden
CLLocation* venueLocation = [[CLLocation alloc] initWithLatitude: venue.latitude longitude:venue.longditude]; CLLocationDistance distance = [venueLocation getDistanceFrom:currentLocation]; Is distance in metres/miles/km? How do I display it on screen in a platform independent way? On

Beginner memory management question

2008-12-03 Thread Jacob Rhoden
I am not sure how one would go about working this, Im writing my first test os/x applications and I am thinking this is probably not right. Am I doing the retain in the correct place? I tried reading the documentation on NSTextField but it didnt give me a clue about if I needed to retain.

Correct location to store application data.

2008-12-03 Thread Jacob Rhoden
it doesnt make sense to store it in the Documents folder. Best regards, Jacob ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins

Detecting in/activity

2008-11-15 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
Hi all, I'd like to have an app/daemon/something detect when the computer becomes active after a period of inactivity, much like iChat does when it says Welcome back! Would you like to change your status from Does anyone have any insight as to the best way to do that? Thanks in

Re: Data Types for Extracting samples from Audio Buffer

2008-10-05 Thread Jacob Lukas
On Oct 5, 2008, at 09:47, Joseph Ayers wrote: I'm trying to extract the audio samples from an audio buffer returned from the QuickTime Audio extraction API into a NSMutableArray of NSNumbers. snip The code I am using is: AudioBufferList* abl; NSMutableArray * ipbuf;

Synchronous modal sheet

2008-08-15 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I want to display a modal sheet, but my code isn't currently at the point where I can split it up. Is there a way to run a modal sheet synchronously, so the rest of the code after it starts isn't called until it ends? Or do I have no choice but to restructure this?

Re: Synchronous modal sheet

2008-08-15 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
to a sheet, I suppose I'll go for it. On Aug 15, 2008, at 3:52 AM, Graham Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Aug 2008, at 3:16 pm, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: I want to display a modal sheet, but my code isn't currently at the point where I can split it up. Is there a way to run a modal

Custom URL Handling

2008-08-09 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I want to implement a custom URL scheme (such that myscheme:whatever will open my app and somehow pass the URL as a parameter). I've been looking around for information on how to do that, and I'm getting mixed messages. The Info.plist documentation is very clear, and I've got the keys all

Re: Custom URL Handling

2008-08-09 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
It doesn't seem to make sense to use the script suite stuff to receive the URL event.. shouldn't it be used for scripting only? Or am I mistaken? On Aug 9, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Uli Kusterer wrote: I see some implementations use -[NSAppleEventManager

Re: NSTextView + other NSView in NSScrollView?

2008-07-31 Thread Jacob
. A quick search on CocoaBuilder for NSTextView flipped turns up this suggestion to flip the superview: http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/message/cocoa/2004/6/20/110164 But I haven't read it closely. --Andy On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: On Jul 28, 2008, at 7:48

CSV parsing (large files)

2008-07-29 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I've got several large-size CSV files (a total of about 1.25 million lines, and an average of maybe 10 or so columns) that I want to parse into a 2D array. I found some parsing code that uses NSScanner, and it works fine with small files, but it's very resource-intensive and slow with

Re: NSTextView + other NSView in NSScrollView?

2008-07-28 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
On Jul 27, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Andy Lee wrote: On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: I'm trying to create a Mail-style scroll view, with a view for information (like the view for message headers) above a text view for the content. I created two NSViews in Interface Builder

Re: NSTextView + other NSView in NSScrollView?

2008-07-28 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
On Jul 28, 2008, at 7:48 AM, Andy Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: I'm trying to create a Mail-style scroll view, with a view for information (like the view for message headers) above a text view for the content. I created two NSViews

IB view transitions, CA, NSWindow animation

2008-07-27 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
For a bit of background, I've got a window, and I'll be swapping its content view's subview between some other views. One (and more in the future) of the other views has a subview with wants layer set so it can use some CALayer stuff for fading and such. Now, when I switch between views

Re: IB view transitions, CA, NSWindow animation

2008-07-27 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
: On 27 Jul 2008, at 07:36, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: [snip] For resizing, the logical method is -[NSWindow setFrame:display:animate:]. This all works fine... until a descendant subview has a layer. Then I get a pause, and the window resizes without animating. If I remove the layer from

Re: NSWindow resize problems

2008-07-27 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
. Another thing when I maximize and then resize the window a tiny bit the objects all fall into their correct place..? Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 27, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Nathan Kinsinger wrote: On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Jacob Ole Juul Kolding wrote: Hello List I've implemented

Containers in Cocoa, adding objects to NSView programmatically?

2008-07-27 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
Hello List I'm been reading the documentation quit a bit but haven't found the answer. My problem is that I don't really understand how containers work in Cocoa, I know NSView, but how do I add an object to it programmatically, say a NSImage? Any pointer greatly appreciated! Jacob

NSTextView + other NSView in NSScrollView?

2008-07-27 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I'm trying to create a Mail-style scroll view, with a view for information (like the view for message headers) above a text view for the content. I created two NSViews in Interface Builder, changed the class of the bottom one to NSTextView, selected both, and clicked Layout Embed Objects

Re: (Newb question?) Launching app on dock icon file drop?

2008-07-26 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
stringEditor/string /dict /array in Info.plist Thanks! Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 26, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Ken Thomases wrote: On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Jacob Ole Juul Kolding wrote: I been searching for quite a while and reading the source code

NSWindow resize problems

2008-07-26 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
side of the window? Second, I have a NSTableView with a single column in my window. The column doesn't automatically resize to fit the width of the table? Can anyone tell me how to solve these issues? Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Cocoa-dev

Re: NSString sizeWithAttributes inaccuracy

2008-07-25 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
It's more than one pixel. First time i noticed it was with a string of about 140 chars which gut truncated about 10 chars. Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Manfred Schwind wrote: he problem is that on very large strings sizeWithAttributes comes up short

Re: NSString sizeWithAttributes inaccuracy

2008-07-25 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
IIRC from my debugging sessions sizeWithAttributes already does that? Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 25, 2008, at 1:47 AM, Aki Inoue wrote: Try using -boundingRectWithSize:options:attributes instead with NSStringDrawingUsesDeviceMetics. Aki On 2008/07/24, at 14:23, Jacob Ole Juul

(Newb question?) Launching app on dock icon file drop?

2008-07-25 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
I been searching for quite a while and reading the source code for DockScript by still no luck. Can anyone tell me how to make an Cocoa app launch when a file is drag 'n droped on it's icon? Any pointer greatly appreciated! Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED

NSString sizeWithAttributes inaccuracy

2008-07-24 Thread Jacob Ole Juul Kolding
or if there is a simpler way to achieve my goal? Any help appreciated! Jacob Kolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev

NSStatusItem custom view with menu

2008-07-03 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I'm making an NSStatusItem with a custom view. In drawRect:, it draws things based on the value of the highlighted instance variable. When mouseDown: is called, it pops up a menu using the status item's popUpStatusItemMenu: method. Using the mouseUp: event does not work, because it is not

Leopard-specific functionality in non–Leopard -only project

2008-06-21 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I'm working on a project (with another developer) that will target OSes older than 10.5, and I'd like to use the Leopard-only NSWindow method -setCollectionBehavior:. As far as I know, the best way to do this is to check for the method using -respondsToSelector:. I need to use the enum

Re: Leopard-specific functionality in non–L eopard-only project

2008-06-21 Thread Jacob
X 10.4. (under Deployment) You'll want to set it for all your configurations: (Debug, Release, etc) On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a project (with another developer) that will target OSes older than 10.5, and I'd like to use

Tab-based (document-based?) application

2008-06-18 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I'm creating an application that will have an arbitrary number of basically identical windows (document-like) which each have tabs (or something of the sort) in them that represent the actual documents, per se. Would it be best to start out with a Document-Based Application or just a

HUD-style panel controls?

2008-04-12 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
I'm adding a HUD panel to my application. Looking around, I don't see a way to get the proper style of controls easily. The Human Interface Guidelines say that HUD controls should be white with gray accents and use white or gray text. And yet I don't see a way to get these controls (gray

Re: HUD-style panel controls?

2008-04-12 Thread Jacob
, so everyone's not rolling slightly different HUD panels, we should have at least /some/ standard HUD controls. Please, please file an enhancement request. -- m-s On 12 Apr, 2008, at 22:01, Jacob Bandes-Storch wrote: I'm adding a HUD panel to my application. Looking around, I

How inspect pending performSelectorOnMainThread ?

2008-04-07 Thread Jacob Engstrand
Hi all, In a separate thread I call: [self performSelectorOnMainThread: @selector(broadcastMessage:) withObject: nil waitUntilDone: NO]; Now, is there a way for the main thread to inspect the queue of pending messages, their targets and arguments? (I would like my unit test to verify that

Re: NSViewController's representedObject and NSArrayController's selection don't mix?

2008-04-07 Thread Jacob Lukas
to do what I'm trying to do? Thank you, Jacob Lukas On Apr 6, 2008, at 22:52, Jacob Lukas wrote: I have a table of Core Data objects and a set of inspector views. Depending on the Class(es) of the selection in the table view, the set of inspector views changes. I managed the inspector

[SOLVED] Re: NSViewController's representedObject and NSArrayController's selection don't mix?

2008-04-07 Thread Jacob Lukas
view controller's representedObject each time the selection changes. This works beautifully. If anyone wants the source for my proxy class, I'd be happy to provide it (free for all use). Thank you, Jacob Lukas On Apr 6, 2008, at 22:52, Jacob Lukas wrote: I have a table of Core Data

Re: Creating Custom Views in Interface Builder

2008-03-14 Thread Jacob Lukas
unsuccessful. If someone could point me in the right direction, that would be a great help. Thanks! Regards, Michael What about creating this view in a separate nib, and loading it each time you wish to insert it somewhere? Perhaps using +[NSBundle loadNibNamed:owner:] -Jacob

Re: [iPhone] xml parsing

2008-03-10 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
On a similar-ish note, I'm having trouble using libxml. I'm using a slightly modified version of the appropriate sample code. I need to make sure that the library is in my project. Since I couldn't find the library in a convenient place (where are you supposed to get those anyway?), I just

Re: [Moderator] iPhone discussion here - RETRACTION

2008-03-10 Thread Jacob Bandes-Storch
So are we or are we not getting a specialized (password-protected, probably) discussion area for the iPhone SDK? On Mar 10, 2008, at 6:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds surprisingly plausible. I imagine a big speech bubble above the Apple campus that says, Well, I'm glad we got

Re: cascading windows in document architecture

2008-02-25 Thread Jacob Lukas
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