Will Mogo with "nbThreads=4 and --nbTotalSimulations 11" yield the same
results as "nbThreads=1 and --nbTotalSimulations 11", presumably in
approximately 1/4 the time?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
“Wherever is found what is called a paternal govern
thod at the top level to weed out duplicate games?
How confident are we that resignation works properly? There were some odd
results in the latest KGS tournament, if I recall correctly; programs were
resigning won games.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PR
status reports of the entire system.
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [computer-go] Suicide question
Michae
.
I've also been considering Amazon's EC2 -- one server-month costs about $72.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
“Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state
education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure implicit
obedience is to
lized that the probability of winning was
effectively zero.
Are my conjectures in the ballpark?
How feasible is it to repair such blind spots?
How feasible is it to dynamically boost the probability of such "vital points"
when they become crucial to the game?
Terry McInty
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:59:15 PM
Subject: cgbg, was [computer-go] On average how many board updates/sec can top
Go programs do these days?
Gian-Carlo Pascutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I wrot
From: Rémi Coulom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sylvain Gelly wrote:
>> Yes I did! :).It is not on my website, but will (soon?).
>> However, you should not be so eager to read it :)
>> Cheers,
>> Sylvain
>Google finds it:
>http://tao.lri.fr/Papers/thesesTAO/SylvainGellyThesis.pdf
Thanks, Rémi!
Now ea
Hideki Kato wrote:
> What is "correct" move? It has sense only for some artificial
> problems or very limited positions, and so, it cannot evaluate total
> performance of a program.
There are many positions where winning the game requires one or a small set of
moves.
Suppose the board is e
good starting point.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
“Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state
education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure implicit
obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery.”
Benjamin Disraeli, Speech in t
From: Olivier Teytaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> They announce that a match will be organized between MoGo and a
professional
> player in March, during the Paris Go Tournament.
> It will be the MPI version of mogo, and in various board-sizes.
What handicap, if any?
Terry M
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> What's the point of getting a stable ranking which is more or less
> meaningless?
> If someone want to debug or test their programs, they could easily use the
> publicaly available version of MoGo or GnuGo. The purpose > of the 19x19 CGOS
> is to compare strengt
e you played the 3 versions against Gnugo? What handicaps seem appropriate
there?
I think Don Dailey posted that there is a need for a GnuGo on the 19x19 server?
I can host if need be, have spare CPU here and full-time connection.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
“Wherever is found what
The www page for the Mathematical Go book refers to the Japanese word
"tedomori" -- which I googled; this book page is the only reference to
"tedomori." No mention on senseis.xmp.net; can anyone supply a definition?
Thanks!
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
“Wherev
- Original Message
From: Stuart A. Yeates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I recommend "Mathematical Go: Chilling Gets the Last Point" by Elwyn
>Berlekamp and David Wolfe. The book contains a number of such
>positions, as well as an approach that allows to make as many more as
>you need.
http://mat
sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state
education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure implicit
obedience is to commence tyranny in the nu
find opportunities to use these
effectively.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Be a better friend, newshound, and
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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fficient play. It's all about making the most for your one play,
before your opponent gets his turn.
I was playing against a 7 or 8 dan (AGA rating ) player last night, and he
reminded me of a terrible truth: we take turns placing stones. So frustrating
that I don't get a "two sto
- Original Message
From: Rémi Coulom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> For instance, against computers, I estimate that Crazy Stone improved
> about 3 stones between this summer and now. But it clearly did not
> improve 3 stones on KGS. I vaguely remember that Sylvain also noticed
> that MoGo coul
to his own work at
http://www.andromeda.com/people/ddyer/go/shape-library.html
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
From: Dav
There's some value to human-human games in this proposed tournament, I think.
Some humans might play or worse at 5 minute time controls. Comparison with
longer games might be interesting.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They pr
Jason House:
> Don't forget that local tactical analysis can be reused many moves
later if the local area has remained unaffected.
> In a multi-core
system, it may become increasingly valuable to dedicate a core to
tactical analysis.
In another post, libego with a million playouts per move had
From: Stefan Nobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Any of those with recent Lisp experience have any opinions about
> multicore capabilities?
Multithreading is not available in ANSI CL, but most implementations
support multithreading in som
concurrent threads. In Erlang, the cost of
such threads is comparable to the cost of a function call.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
racy, second
on speed. Under tournament conditions, speed is very crucial, but tuning the
accuracy of the evaluations is likely to reduce the noise rate, and winnow out
a fair number of losing plays.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They
Take this with a grain of salt, since I am a novice, but my understanding
of the distinction is this: violating the ko rule flows from an incorrect
decision made by the player; playing a stone of the wrong color from external
mishap - the stone should not have been in the player's bowl. Usually on
At this point, it has to be said that _all_ computer go programs suck at 19xc19
go. MC programs happen to suck less, especially on small boards.
On the other hand, we do have some very strong special-purpose go programs.
There are several very strong tsumego/life-and-death programs and at least
Perhaps servers should have test suites and regression tests for participants.
These would enable bugs to be worked out before engaging in tournament play.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean
Ladders are not hard, especially if one is permitted to place stones on the
(virtual) board to trace the flow. A 20 kyu human can follow the logic.
Don, you describe some subtle choices of playing one's opponent, and compare
them to MC programs, but you are a fairly strong chess player. If you
Attached is a 9x9 game by Mogo ( Black ) versus an amateur shodan ( Joe C.,
White ).
>From the log output, Mogo was unaware that it was waaay behind until move 60.
>Oddly, move 60 was a pass by White; there may be a bug in this particular
>version, since this would have been a good time to eith
From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Such guidance has to be fairly subtle, however; it often must take
the form
> of "if he plays here, do this, if there, do that."
> Doesn't the search tree provide such functionality?
It does indeed - but there are often forced sequences which can be pred
- Original Message
From: Darren Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Am I confused in my understanding that a weakness of MC evaluation is
> that due to its random play it will miss sequences where there is
only
> one winning move at each play? ...
> This was exactly the topic I tackled in this
You may wish to look at the CUDA docs:
http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cuda.html#documentation
and the Telsa GPU: http://www.nvidia.in/page/tesla_tech_specs.html
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; bu
I am hardly fit to clean the dust from Pro 9-dan Go Seigen's goban, so I'll
just rest my argument with the chapter headings from his book, Winning a Won
Game:
Chapter 1 Three Golden Rules
Avoid uncertainties when you have the lead
Seize the opportunity when it is presented
Attack the oppon
sign a 90%
estimation of winning the game, buying fireworks and Xmas presents to celebrate
for this move and the next until ...
Ooops! Is my witty bitty group dead? Whatever were we thinking?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They p
From: Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>which will alter the score not by one point, but by ten or twenty.
>>Their estimate of winning probability is totally wrong. Good players
>>winnow out losing moves and stick with good moves - the basic premise
>>of minimax searching. Losing a big group will
Any estimate of winning probability is only as good as the estimates of whether
particular games are actually won or lost.
Evidently, even strong programs fail to recognize the impact of nakade, which
will alter the score not by one point, but by ten or twenty. Their estimate of
winning probab
From: terry mcintyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For a large number of playouts, the estimated scores should converge as the
game progresses. This is particularly true if the random distributions strongly
favor moves where each opponent monotonically increases the score - keeping
one's g
he earlier placement - or even further
back, to the surrounding and cutting and eye-killing moves which ultimately led
to the placement move.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they m
the vital point is played, only one eye can be made.
I don't know how hard it is to fix this bug, but if Mogo can avoid nakade, it
will surely win many more games.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters;
ntion than GoGui,
and may have estimated the score a bit differently. More study.
If yose handling were improved, Mogo ( and perhaps other similar programs )
would be a few stones stronger. This looks like "low-hanging fruit," but I
could be wrong.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED
Some of the MonteGNU code was just released on CVS. Check out Gnugo's
development pages.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Messag
"Prepaid by truck" -- presumably in small bills! This was printed in the Spring
issue - April 1, let's say?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel We
From: Nick Wedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Petr Baudis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> are there any limits (set by either rules or ethiquette) on power of
>>the machines running the bots? Or noone cares? I wonder if it's ok to
>>use a 16-core opteron-packed machine to r
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On CGOS you will notice that a lot of the really good programs have to
> "throttle down." Even though they are capable of achieving 2500+ ELO
> they are isolated at the top so they often choose to play on CGOS at
> crippled levels.
> Just look at Greenpe
Sluggo was the only computer participant in the Cotsen Open. David Doshay used
a Mac with 8 cores; he'll have the results.
If I recall correctly, it did not do as well as previously, when it ran on 24
Mac Minis.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but t
A set of custom masks for ASICs does not come cheap. You may wish to look into
Mosics,
http://www.cedcc.psu.edu/mse97/msedocs/paper8.pdf for a relatively low-cost
source for custom prototypes.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They p
A bird's-eye view of computer-Go programming: a large part of what a Go program
does will probably be some sort of analysis of a deep tree of possible moves,
involving the exploration of millions of possible positions. The guts of this
should be as optimal as possible. A slower language such as
Go-specific language? Sprinkle in a few Common Lisp macros, stir well ...
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
From: Vlad Dumi
book refers to his efforts to apply genetic algorithms to the game of Go,
but that's all I've been able to google so far.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Get easy, one-click access to
From: Peter Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Opinions may differ as to what counts as "fast", but Java may be your best
> choice here.
> (Hint: double your speed by using the -server command-line option.)
I googled "java option server" and found this tidbit which goes into more
detail:
In the a
a second track for those who want results more quickly.
Many thanks to Don and everyone else for making CGOS possible!
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be maste
a 2nd mortgage.
Moore's law at this time encourages multicore in a big way.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message
From: David Fotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:53:15 AM
Subject: RE: [computer-go] 19x19 CGOS
At
I'd argue that 30 minutes is a good compromise.
Among humans, that would be a brisk pace but not blitz - common time controls
are 60 or 90 minutes, and much longer for some pro tournaments.
For computers, 30 minutes should give enough time to bump up the standard of
play a few more kyu, while
Less than 20 minutes per side would be practically blitz speed.
- Original Message
From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I oppose more time per side.
On 10/23/07, Christoph Birk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
> > http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cgos
What is used in Asia?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
From: Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: computer-go
Sent: Tues
This may be more apropos:
http://www.icml2006.org/icml_documents/camera-ready/110_Bayesian_Pattern_Ran.pdf
IIRC, the team attempted to match patterns all throughout the game, but had
more success in the opening.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they m
http://stat.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ralfh/go.ps.gz
Thore Graepel, Mike Goutrie, Marco Krüger, and Ralf Herbrich used an SVM to
predict moves from pro games; it was particularly successful for predicting
opening moves, as I recall.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; bu
From: David Doshay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Why would you use 6 of the 8 cores and not all 8?
... Perhaps it was the challenge of doing it with two cores tied behind his
back?
On 12, Oct 2007, at 3:41 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote:
> I add some info about this match.
>
> Crazy Stone ran on Quad Co
From: Dave Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Considering how monte carlo actually works, I think it's plausible
> to argue that it works best where the distance to endgame is small.
> For a 19x19 board, the playing speed may be only a factor of 4 worse,
> but the effective learning speed for an opening p
From: Christopher Rosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Christopher, Thanks for your explanation of greenpeep!
> - Biasing playouts by patterns is much better than unbiased playouts
> - Playouts using self-play patterns together with MoGo-style move
> preferences (favor defensive moves and captures, as wel
Erik,
It would be great to see Steenvreter on the 9x9 cgos server. BTW, can you
translate "Steenvreter" for us English speakers? Thanks!
From: Erik van der Werf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes I'm here :-) Sorry to have to disappoint you though, I have not
yet found enough time to work on 19x19. For n
I'd say that the CGOS server has been an invaluable spur to development, since
it does allow fairly easy testing against the competition.
What Don seems to be proposing is a way of standardizing the hardware - all
programs run on the same platform.
It seems that this would require an organizati
- Original Message
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My point is that this probably won't happen in computer Go but it
happened long ago in computer chess.
- - Don
Can you point us to info about comparable agency for computer chess? Who funds
such an agency?
Thanks!
This may be the same Chris Rosin:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/areas/ai/aisem/abstracts/1995.2.summer/rosin.html
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/crosin/
Other than the senseis.xmp reference, I have been able to google nothing about
greenpeep.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Or
prediction of pro-level moves. I've always wondered whether that could be
integrated with UCT to narrow the search tree.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
---
>From my conversations with dan-level players, analysis in the fuseki is not
>broad. They'll consider a handful of moves at any point - should I play in the
>open corner first, or respond to an approach move, or make my own approach
>move? Candidate moves are chosen from a small set of patterns
- Original Message
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I think [Hsu] is betting on null move proving - but I'm real skeptical that
> it will be effective in Computer Go. It will indeed reduce the tree
> significantly, but this comes at a qualitative price that is not so bad
> in Chess
ROTFLMAO!
Years back, I had the assignment of writing a compiler for a subset of C. A
temporary "come from" opcode expedited the generation of assembler code. My
professor, fortunately, had a sense of humor.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but the
If you specify the name without the path, it doesn't know where to look. If you
use "find file", you are specifying the full path.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to
cannot connect to the 19x19 server. This happens
periodically.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel W
I just clicked on http://cgos.boardspace.net/19x19/SGF/2007/09/16/26999.sgf (
which was on the 19x19
standings page ) and got a 404 error.
When I clicked on a random link from the 9x9 page, it worked.
http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/SGF/2007/09/20/129236.sgf
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTEC
I looked at the cgos game records, and it shows the most recent n games. I was
looking for games by Mogo,
which did not appear in that list at the time I checked.
How do I find games played by a particular program?
Thanks!
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; bu
I tried to start this version of Drago, and got an error message regarding a
missing libkombilo.dll
I do have an earlier version of Drago which works, modulo the problems with
Mogo.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to b
One would expect that a lot of Go-specific knowledge is required to develop a
good program, but my impression is that some of the best Go programs so far
have been actually written by people who know little about the game itself.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to gover
assing, suicide, and superko are
prohibited. Available moves eventually diminish to zero. The person with the
smallest territory loses, unable to make a legal move.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but th
From: Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Jul 20, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Andrés Domínguez wrote:
> 2007/7/20, Ian Osgood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> My program disallows playing in eyes (string of empty surrounded
>> by self)
>> unless a neighboring stone is in atari. That catches your special-
>> cas
An interesting recap of how the hype can sometimes far outpace the reality:
http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~chinook/project/legacy.html
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. --
4 to prove that checkers,
played perfectly, results in a draw."
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
From: Álvaro Be
The list is archived here: http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/
I often google the archives.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original M
the dame are filled - can't
speak to that.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original Message
From: Robert Jasiek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message
From: Chris Fant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> BTW I have no idea what IGGA means, "International Guild Of Glass
>> Artists", "International Grooving and Grinding Association",
> >"International Gomputer Games Association", is it a typo???
> No, gomputers are real:
> http://
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Is it possible to tie together the handicap information and the
>> win-loss percentages into a unified ELO-type score? Would an
>> experiment be needed to measure the effect of handicap stones on the
>> probability of winning?
> I think the common formula
r the handicap information and the win-loss
percentages into a unified ELO-type score? Would an experiment be needed to
measure the effect of handicap stones on the probability of winning?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be ki
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The appears to be a bug with CGOS, please bare with me
But we hardly know ye! Isn't it a bit early to get bare with you? ;)
In all seriousness, thanks for restarting the server. Cheers!
__
what's up with the 19x19 server? haven't been able to connect for a couple days.
Error message: 08:05:47Irrecgular response from server. Breaking connection.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
m
I am seeing messages like this:
02:27:59Irrecgular response from server. Breaking connection.
02:27:59Connection to server has closed. Will try to reconnect shortly.
Am restarting my 19x19 client.
Anyone else having similar issues?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They m
- Original Message
From: Dave Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One of my favorite observations about Go is that expert play tends to be "on
> the edge of catastrophe".
> By playing better moves on the average, you become more vulnerable to the
> occasional misstep.
> If a program is not
such blunders
will negate the advantage of a five stone handicap.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they m
The story is "Long on drama, but short on facts."
From: Tom Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It isn't a very good article in my opinion, but for what it's worth.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/ben_macintyre/article2002699.ece
_
I will restart mine -- it was getting some weird error message -- let's see
what's happening.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
- Original M
f chess or Go? In a sense,
it might be considered a striving for "kami no itte" - the "hand of god" or the
perfect play.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be maste
If I recall correctly, Chinese rules encourage you to fill dame, since stones
on the board are counted; Japanese rules exact no penalty either way since dame
are not territory.
Under Chinese rules, it would be foolish to pass so long as there are dame to
fill.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTEC
Dragon Go Server does have some sort of wrapper which enables programs to
connect to the server.
For a while, Gnugo was a participant on DGS. Last I checked, it was using .NET,
but they may have other
options by this time.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern wel
>From my experience, DGS is not comparable to correspondence chess; it isn't
>anywhere near that competivive. It is generally a way to play a casual game
>over a longish period of time.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern
e than adequate. That would be something of
a milestone, trouncing strong human players on the 9x9 board, with no excuses
about the humans running out of time.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but th
rtably inside of 30 seconds,
probably even ten, but it
is important to make that decision correctly, as one may otherwise lose a point
here, a point there,
thereby losing the game "in yose" ( in the endgame ).
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but the
From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:27 -0700, steve uurtamo wrote:
>I also don't like having to account for move numbers. It's ok if the
>computer is tracking this such as online sites, but it's a pain
>remembering and keeping up with move numbers in games played on phys
advantage that one need not sweat each and
every end-game move.
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
masters; but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster
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From: Don Dailey <[E
From: Heikki Levanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I still think it a bit strange that on an empty board, a program can
> prefer a 3-3 point in one corner, and in another corner find it quite
> unplayable.
It makes sense of the space evaluated by the random playouts differed. But my
thinking
is, what
Is it possible to recognize and exploit symmetry to improve the quality of the
move estimation process with minimal expenditure of effort?
Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They mean to govern well; but they mean to govern. They promise to be kind
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