I am on the town council in a historic Virginia town of about 700. We
provide water and sewer services to in-town residents. In the 1970's,
the town built its sewer using state and federal grants to defray almost
all of the cost. Connection and availability fees were too low. When
we realized
I lived in a small town in WI. (350) that also had a sewer system and
water system.
The state came in and forced them to raise their rates to prevent
what you are talking about.
They dictated what type of reserve they had to keep and the minimum
they could charge to make sure they were
And I agree with the sentiment expressed (though not the supernatural
part). I just don't agree that we should use the force of government
to compel others to provide what should be voluntary charity. There
are things government does best (national defense, protection against
predation)
It reads to me that the problem was as you identified it: Connection
and availability fees were too low.
If you charge what it actually costs then polities have a greater
incentive to build only what they need, and users have an incentive to
be much more frugal in their use. If you
There should not be any church militias!!! (Separation of church and
state or in theological language kingdom of the left and kingdom of the right.)
However Canada's hospital systems belie your comments they are
efficiently run and well run. Though they are owned by the government.
One of
I have heard they are well run for emergency services. I have also
read that they are severely underfunded with resulting long waits for
operations that are not absolutely emergent. I also seem to recall
having read that at least one province is fighting hard to make it
illegal for
It is more complicated than that. Funding must be identified for future
capacity as well as current or new users will be shut out. So we added
a modest increase in the new capacity of the new plant. Also, when the
state and federal government shut down those grant funds, they left
municipal
I can tell you how it works as I have lived there and have
experienced it first hand.
One thing we know is that they are flat funded. In other words they
only get so many bucks a year, and do not collect from the patient any money.
Not all hospitals have MRI or CTScan machines or other high
That is normally done in most areas.
My mother has septic, but is surrounded by the city.
They have no intent on running lines into my mothers subdivision but
if they choose to sign on with the city they will charge them a large
hook up fee, and then the customer will have to pay to run the
That is a vastly over-simplified account. I never recoup the cost of my
water or sewer plants in your scenario.
You also ignore the disruption when the state or federal government
suddenly ignores these infrastructures.
Life sounds very simple in your world. Probably too simple.
Thank you,
How do you not recoup your costs if you charge appropriately for the
cost of service? Part of the cost is a reserve for predictable
maintenance and growth.
Why is a town relying on state funds to provide service to the town?
Why should the town not be providing all strictly local
For someone with so many criticisms of government, you know curiously
little about actually running one!
If I don't charge an amount proportional to the customer's use of the
system, when it comes time to replace those parts of that system, where
will the money come from? (Developers hate me
On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Snyder, Mark (IT-EI) wrote:
If I don't charge an amount proportional to the customer's use of the
system, when it comes time to replace those parts of that system,
where
will the money come from? (Developers hate me for charging this, but
eventually I will go
Um, not all of us have lived our entire lives in the US, and some of us
even have non region one dvds and non region one dvd players that we've
purchased in other countries.
So? Since when has personal necessity trumped the Law? Tell it to Jean
Valjean.
Somehow, my WinXP has lost its pointer to which program is supposed to
open jpeg files - which is a pain because I don't know what I was
using. Any suggestions?
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Locate the file in an Explorer window (My Computer), right-click it
and select Open with, and be sure to select the checkbox to always
open with the app you choose.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Ralph rs9...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow, my WinXP has lost its pointer to which program is supposed
go to a document. right clik. choose open with. should be a box somewhere
to check to say always open this type program with wp()
what's wp?
come back if wp does not show up in the open with column.
At 02:00 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote:
I'm having the same problem with OS X since the
To change the application for a single file, it's very similar to
the windows situation. Right-click on the file and in the popup
menu select the application from the Open With… menu item.
Or, open the application and drop the file icon onto the
application icon in the dock.
To permanently
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:55:15 -0500, Tony B wrote:
Is this true? Is there a shortage of forums for political discussions
these days? I wouldn't know, as I rarely indulge. Perhaps we need a
new forum - PGUYS (Political Guys).
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
Yes, this was a common solution for mailing lists in their heyday - a
companion 'OT' list. A good idea to help keep the noise level down.
But I don't think the AOL software allows a group moderator to move
threads.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:06 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:
We used to have an
go to a document. right clik. choose open with. should be a box
somewhere to check to say always open this type program with wp()
Right click and select Get Info. One of the panels there will let you set
it for the document. A button there lets you make it general.
Good answer. Terrible subject line.
Especially now, as the thread that ate the CGUYS list continues, it is
important to have the correct subject line on replies.
To change the application for a single file, it's very similar to
the windows situation. Right-click on the file and in the popup
We used to have an off-topic list (a separate Linux list, too).
Whatever happened to that?
These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread
will be gone soon too.
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Yes, this was a common solution for mailing lists in their heyday - a
companion 'OT' list. A good idea to help keep the noise level down.
But I don't think the AOL software allows a group moderator to move
threads.
I think AOL management has forgotten that this server even exists. How
many times
Not if the laws of the jurisdiction mandate such up front. I also
never said there should not be adequate planning - I assume it is the
duty of the government to plan for such eventualities. Are you
telling me you are not?
I think the cons/neocons describe this as passing debts on to
Obviously Mathew, you are a neocon. Just like Barney Frank had nothing to
do with the fall of fannie/freddie...even though you can read NYT stories
about it...all a neocon plot.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Matthew S. Taylor
taylorsmatt...@gmail.comwrote:
Tom,
Did you ever notice that
The point is, there are tons of places that you can go to for a fix on
needlepoint, and a ton of political discussion forums as well. Not too
many mind the occasional OT comment on a list, but I too have felt
that impulse to stop the flood of politics in my inbox with an unsub.
Or at least a
At 05:18 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Matthew S. Taylor wrote
Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has
gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on
the way.
Matthew
OK, I'm just finishing my 7th Teresa Wentzler cross stitch project and
looking
I don't know where you live, but here on the West Coast that's just
wrong. Many of those so called liberals do run some of the larger
cities. But as the neocons enjoy saying, most of the land in this
country is controlled by smaller cities and towns usually run by
mostly neocons. Here is
Samba appears to be the answer. I will read the manual. Will using it
create any problems with my current Mac network?
Thanks
Steve
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As I've said before (but not recently), I get the list in digest form
and have to paste in the subject line manually. Sometimes
I forget. I apologize for doing it again (as I have apologized
for doing it previously).
It would be horribly distracting for me to get each posting as
it comes in,
At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote
These got very little use and are now gone. I bet our politics thread
will be gone soon too.
I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I
joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone
Tom,
Did you ever notice that most of the big urban areas, with the big
breaking water mains and such (and troubling schools, and pot hole
filled roads) are not run by your pet bogeymen, the cons/neocons, but
mostly by liberals / political machine Democrats? Could it be that
pandering
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:27:28 -0700, mike wrote:
I'm wondering if this is simply a preference in coding by the itunes
guys...figuring that the same album name might crop up enough as to not let
it be an album unless expressly noted if there are different artists. I'm
thinking though that there are
I've never let itunes manage the music...can't help but think that would be
a mess.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM, katan ka...@his.com wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:27:28 -0700, mike wrote:
I'm wondering if this is simply a preference in coding by the itunes
guys...figuring that the same
It's too bad those bridges fell down under lefties/socialists who were
running the city into the ground before they were led off to jail.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Not if the laws of the jurisdiction mandate such up front. I also
never said there should
Not really but it will come with its own occasional issues... one of
which is the anomalies involved with bringing together different file
systems that use different systems of measuremen/ reportage etc.
It's a great piece of software that has been around a long time but it's
still another
Anyone else feeling the same way
about that discussion may want to consider switching to digest
for a while, and just scroll past the nonsense at their own
convenience.
As many of us have said before. Set up email rules to sort [CGUYS] into
its own folder. This is far better than digest.
While
I agree. This thread will die soon. But joining this group was in
direct response to an absolute hate of the Kartel, another group of
list owners I and others used to term the Kartel Nazi's. One word or
subject out of bounds would cause suspension or banning...
And Jeff is proof of that.
Your suggestions are as practical to me as an instruction on driving
elephants that I might write for you. Sure, I've seen elephants at the
circus, zoo and on TV. Perhaps more than you've seen about actual
government budgeting, legislation and operations?
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original
Ah, wry wit . . . leaves me in stitches! BTW, in Arabic the powers that
control are described as those who loosen and bind (ahl al hal w'al
`aqd) so your stitches and your politics are not always pulling on
separate strands. Cheers!
Sue Cubic wrote:
At 05:18 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Matthew
I'm having the same problem with OS X since the update, except that they are pc
docs now opening in textedit rather than wp. Can you help? With thanks in
advance.
--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Opening jpeg files
To:
Not at all - I might learn some interesting stuff. My daughter has
gotten into crocheting, and cross stitch, and I can see embroidery on
the way.
Matthew
On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Sue Cubic wrote:
At 03:57 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote
These got very little use and are now
You need to learn a lot before any of your positions will make any sense
or could be implemented in the real world. Your ideas are about as
practical as telling your doctor how to diagnose, prescribe for and
operate on you. You describe a fantasy world, not reality.
But they do tell doctors how
Did you ever notice that most of the big urban areas, with the big
breaking water mains and such (and troubling schools, and pot hole
filled roads) are not run by your pet bogeymen, the cons/neocons, but
mostly by liberals / political machine Democrats? Could it be that
pandering to
And Jeff is proof of that.
Both of them.
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I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I
joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind?
So post something about computers, will you. Whining is prohibited.
Count me in, Sue! I'm just getting over a really bad cold. I took to
my bed for about a week, and I've almost completed a needlepoint
pillow (really complicated design) while resting in bed. It kept me
from going completely crazy during the week.
If you know of any sites with good stitch
I agree. That's the advantage of the digest for me as well. I can quickly
scroll past those messages that annoy me to find the few gems at times
like this.
YMMV
It would be horribly distracting for me to get each posting as
it comes in, particularly with the current discussion raging on
At 08:54 PM 02/03/2009 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote
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I hope so. I'm about ready to unsub. The subject of politics is not why I
joined this list. I'd rather discuss needlework on here--would anyone mind?
So post something about computers, will you. Whining is prohibited.
I do, when I have a
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