On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
I know it's not a thing that liberals want to believe, but it costs
real
money to deploy that technology. Go ahead and vote for it, I know
how to do it. But it is going to cost real money to implement on a
wide scale.
Last time I checked
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote:
You want private telecom to deliver universal broadband in the US,
you are going to have to pay for it.
My main complaint in this area is that there seems to be little money spent
to refresh technology.
The hardest
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John DeCarlo wrote:
So now it is Boo hoo, we don't have multi-terabit optical switches
anywhere, and it would cost us money to upgrade all at once just for
consumers to get more bandwidth. Boo hoo, give us more money.
Interesting commentary at
Gee, you can't plan ahead *four hours*
BTW, what is the resolution and time duration of this four-hour download?
760p? two hours?
Who is your ISP?
On Cox Cable in Annandale, VA I get 20 mbs if the server can provide it, i.e.,
on occasional downloads.
Fred Holmes
At 11:40 PM 2/10/2010,
If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it would be
minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are running.
While I have a problem when corporate managers get bonuses from failing
companies, I have no problem with bonuses from successful companies. We do a
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.
Or, perhaps just more equally situated and hopefully happy, referred
to as Communism in some circles.
Steve
And the NeoCons spread BS and fear-mongering to keep us all ignorant and
afraid of the liberals.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
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If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it
would be minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are
running.
On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
Gee, you can't plan ahead *four hours*
NO!
When you click on a web link are you oaky with the page appearing 4
hours later?
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On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:
If you took all of the corporate bonuses and threw them in a pot, it
would be minuscule in comparison with the deficits governments are
running.
Magicians call this technique misdirection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdirection_(magic)
The liberals just want to make everyone equally miserable.
Like this...
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:42 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Like this...
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/?hpt=T2
It often surprises me that the Internet does not really seem to have
done all that much to broaden how well a lot of people in the United
States
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:38 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
We are not the top dog in many areas that are commonly used to
determine quality of life, yet so many in the United States continue
to maintain that we are.
Well the robber barons don't care. They are sitting in their mansions
counting
I don't give much credence to picks by judges. The judges generally give
different weighting factors to the quality of life attributes. What's the
relative emigration / immigration between the U.S. and France?
Fred Holmes
At 02:42 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
The liberals just want to make
It is not unprecedented. It exists in Japan, Korea, and other places I'm not
going to look up.
I'm not going to cite numbers on how small physically Japan and Korea
are. Compared to the US.
Finland is also building a national network. It has lots of empty spaces
and more weather
I don't know how to evaluate it, but it's often been said that the quality of
life statistics are apples and oranges among different countries. The classic
example is that most countries simply let preemies die, they don't try to save
them. Since they die at birth, the are _not_ recorded as
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:51 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
Perhaps the new networks should be owned by the public, as it is where it
works, instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for private companies to
expand the networks, often with assistance through public grants and tax
I'm happy to have the republicans own their deficits, how long till both
sides realize there is a third invisible party from both sides driving this
up and up and now its just Obama at the helm now.
On Feb 11, 2010 3:26 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
The liberals just want to make
On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:51 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:
Finland is also building a national network. It has lots of empty
spaces and more weather challenges for installers than in the US--
including this week's eastern US blizzards.
It should be considered a strategic resource, much like the National
At 05:22 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not bring up death
panels? That's the surest way to keep costs down.
The death panel is a Democratic Party concept. Only the name came from the
Republicans. The Democrats had the concept buried in the
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Fred Holmes wrote:
The death panel is a Democratic Party concept. Only the name came from
the Republicans. The Democrats had the concept buried in the Health
Care bill in very obscure language, but they didn't succeed in hiding it
from the public.
Wow! Does _everyone_
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote:
At 05:22 PM 2/11/2010, tjpa wrote:
viz. previous comment on brainwashing. Why did you not bring up death
panels? That's the surest way to keep costs down.
The death panel is a Democratic Party concept. Only the name came from
Perhaps the new networks should be owned by the public, as it is where it
works, instead of waiting and waiting and waiting for private companies to
expand the networks, often with assistance through public grants and tax
breaks. Once the networks are created with public money, they could be
At 06:48 PM 2/11/2010, John DeCarlo wrote:
You used to occasionally try to keep close to reality.
I'm getting to old to worry about that any more.
Fred Holmes
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Steve -
You can't taste the food on the Internet. You can't appreciate the
special French love of beauty and nature on the Internet. You can't feel
the excitement of colors and scents at the weekly outdoor markets on the
Internet. Most of all you can't appreciate the wonderful French sense of
I guess the hope is that this will get incumbent providers off their
rears.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/189066/googles_ultrafast_broadband_questions_and_answers.html
Google, you see, has just announced plans to build a series of
uberfast broadband networks in cities across America. The
We have a new provider coming to town who promises speeds of 13mps.
Stewart
At 05:38 PM 2/10/2010, you wrote:
I guess the hope is that this will get incumbent providers off their
rears.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/189066/googles_ultrafast_broadband_questions_and_answers.html
Google, you
I guess the hope is that this will get incumbent providers off their
rears.
If you pay for it I will build it. I can all ready do what they are
describing, and do. For the paying customers.
I'm disinclined to bankrupt myself under any circumstances.
Only if you have the infrastructure.
The local phone provider has told me he cannot get my DSL over 4 mps
due to the trunk line being the size it is.
Present local cable can get it to 10mps. New cable provider is
telling me they can do 13mps.
That means either the phone company has to
Only if you have the infrastructure.
Actually my model is to build it on demand, in the gigabit
arena. In other words build to order. I can't do it any other
way. It's not inexpensive.
FiOs alone is a hugh investment. But we feel it's worthwhile in
high density areas.
If you want gigabit
Surprisingly there are FIOS cable running in some very rural areas.
When I lived in WI Williams (now just a Gas company) laid a FIOS
cable for telephone service from one end of WI to the other (E-W)
along a rural Highway as they got a good price on the right of way.
Imagine an Internet
Imagine an Internet Provider who bought access, and taped into that line to
offer service?
That opens up a can o' worms. The FCC says I HAVE to open the
copper network, which I built BTW, to alternative providers.
Part of the motivation to build a separate data network not subject to
those
Notice that I said bought access.
They are building highways now with private contractors. Toll roads.
Stewart
That opens up a can o' worms. The FCC says I HAVE to open the
copper network, which I built BTW, to alternative providers.
Part of the motivation to build a separate data
They are building highways now with private contractors. Toll roads.
Yes. But if I charge my costs off to these contactors at full rate I still
won't recover my build expense. I mean I use contractors. If I used line
personnel it would be prohibitive. Yes I rely on the tolls to recover the
On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
I AM rebuilding my system. But the scale they propose is
unprecedented.
It is not unprecedented. It exists in Japan, Korea, and other places
I'm not going to look up.
Today, suffering from cabin fever, I ordered up a video on demand from
It is not unprecedented. It exists in Japan, Korea, and other places
I'm not going to look up.
I'm not going to cite numbers on how small physically Japan and Korea
are. Compared to the US.
I won't say how much their governments pay towards supporting
telecom.
I'll say that it's apples and
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