Hello mdk,
Sunday, November 19, 2000, 18:50:45, you wrote:
So appologize to Mandrakes, they deserve it.
mmlH Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to 'apologize' to Mandrake because
mmlH they replied:
It's gone because you're too lazy to install it:
mmlH Oh, yeah, I certainly should be
Submitted 19-Nov-00 by mdk mailin list (Harry):
Decidedly, bsed on this experience, this is the last time I will have spent
any sort of money on a MacMillan, and particularly a Mandrake product -
after all, the free downloads *ARE* more complete, so why am I spending my
money on something
I know I would ***GLADLY see this email chain come to an end. It has been
worn out.
Everyone who has posted on this subject has made some good points, and you
have not been ignored but please let's move on!
-Chris
On Monday 20 November 2000 08:24, you wrote:
Submitted 19-Nov-00 by mdk mailin list (Harry):
Please stop this discussion. The same problem was discussed a month
ago when Mandrake 7.2 was released. Those who are interested to read
more about it can find it in cooker mailing list archive.
Yo,
Well, as we are all discovering right now, that is because there are
different 'versions' of 7.2, all of them clearly marked as '7.2', with no
real way of differentiating them, and what you get when you get them.
Thus, *your* 7.2 *has* joe, and thus *my* 7.2 does *not* have joe.
This thread has become mired in vitriole that is really being
mis-directed.
Well, as we are all discovering right now, that is because there are
different 'versions' of 7.2, all of them clearly marked as '7.2', with no
real way of differentiating them, and what you get when you get them.
on 11/19/00 9:09 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harry, how big is the partition you are installing to?
Oh, about 10 gigabytes.
If it is too small, the installer gives you a percent representing
all that it can install in that space. Did you see this?
Nope, all I saw was
on 11/19/00 9:28 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you can't stand the responses, GET LOST!
Hmmm, do you work for Mandrake?
I doubt that the marketing will even response when YOU ARE always so
arrogant! That's right! The person being arrogant in the first place is
*YOU*!
on 11/19/00 9:25 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In your situation, I would take it back and get your $32 back. Then
download or buy the REAL Mandrake 7.2
Well, I certainly will try to return it, albeit the issue with returning
opened software boxes is a tricky one... Either
Think about this, I didn't tell you to look through the CD
Well, seeing as how I was specifically talking about the CD, that
miscommunication is understandable.
it's still
available for downlaod and yes I admit the marketing is probably bad,
and I can understand why you must be frustrated
On Monday 20 November 2000 18:22, you wrote:
on 11/19/00 9:28 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you can't stand the responses, GET LOST!
Hmmm, do you work for Mandrake?
I doubt that the marketing will even response when YOU ARE always so
arrogant! That's right! The
On Monday 20 November 2000 18:29, you wrote:
on 11/19/00 9:25 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In your situation, I would take it back and get your $32 back. Then
download or buy the REAL Mandrake 7.2
Well, I certainly will try to return it, albeit the issue with returning
Yeah, you are free to feel that my response was arrogant, but it was
obviously naive of me to assume that something billed as 'complete'
actually
would be so.
...that's true. Complete should mean each and everything. See another
post
of mine.
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
So, every version of Mandrake (not to mention every other distro) includes
joe.
So, I installed Mandrake 7.2 (the complete, 4-cd version). I actually bought
it to see what the new version's all about.
So, I do an installation with 'ALL',
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" a écrit :
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
joe-2.8-21mdk.i586.rpm is in LM 7.2
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 08:46:44AM -0800, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote:
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
So, every version of Mandrake (not to mention every other distro) includes
joe.
So, I installed Mandrake 7.2 (the complete, 4-cd version). I actually bought
it
On Sunday 19 November 2000 11:46, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote:
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
So, every version of Mandrake (not to mention every other distro) includes
joe.
Interesting. I am runnign 7.2, nothing special, installed with a development
install and
On Sunday 19 November 2000 18:49, you wrote:
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 08:46:44AM -0800, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote:
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
So, every version of Mandrake (not to mention every other distro)
includes joe.
So, I installed Mandrake 7.2
On Sunday 19 November 2000 17:46, you wrote:
So, I have been using joe since day-one of using Linux.
So, I installed Mandrake 7.2 (the complete, 4-cd version). I actually
bought it to see what the new version's all about.
It is the best Linux distro. I've tried them all.
Joe's gone.
on 11/19/00 9:28 AM, Zeljko Vukman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So appologize to Mandrakes, they deserve it.
Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to 'apologize' to Mandrake because
they replied:
It's gone because you're too lazy to install it:
Oh, yeah, I certainly should be grateful as
On Sunday 19 November 2000 20:50, you wrote:
on 11/19/00 9:28 AM, Zeljko Vukman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So appologize to Mandrakes, they deserve it.
Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to 'apologize' to Mandrake because
No because you spoke with insolence -(
they replied:
It's
on 11/19/00 8:49 AM, Geoffrey Lee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's gone because you're too lazy to install it:
Obviously we must be talking about some strange language/translation
idiosyncrasy.
In English, a language that apparently is quite complex and difficult to
understand, the word 'ALL'
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, yeah, I certainly should be grateful as heck for some excellent support
of that caliber...
Oh boy, the customer-service Gods in Valhalla sure are smiling down on
Mandrake.
do you want i get you in contact with a marketing guy to
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Silly me. Obviously, in French 'ALL' must mean something else.
Now, what's the reason that ncftp is gone as well, or has that just been
neglected to be installed as well?
the 'ALL' pb is a big pain. If we install too much people complain
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 10:58:46AM -0800, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote:
Could it be that the scripts for 'Complete 800mb' installation, and
'Custom/ALL' installation have some differences in them, and thus cause
different packages to be installed?
If that's the case, this should be
So sprach Pixel am Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 08:14:00PM +0100:
the 'ALL' pb is a big pain. If we install too much people complain (eg:
aspell-cs = 64MB), and in the opposite people complain (eg: complain they have
X http servers running)
Although I really think he did not choose the right words,
So sprach mdk mailin list (Harry) am Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 10:50:45AM -0800:
on 11/19/00 9:28 AM, Zeljko Vukman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So appologize to Mandrakes, they deserve it.
Let me get this straight: I'm supposed to 'apologize' to Mandrake because
they replied:
But that's just
On Sunday 19 November 2000 23:27, you wrote:
So sprach Pixel am Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 08:14:00PM +0100:
the 'ALL' pb is a big pain. If we install too much people complain (eg:
aspell-cs = 64MB), and in the opposite people complain (eg: complain
they have X http servers running)
Although I
on 11/19/00 10:58 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you want i get you in contact with a marketing guy to inflate your
egocentric ?
Sure, if you feel that it will do any good...
The fact remains:
I installed mandrake on a virin system, as a straightforward installation. I
on 11/19/00 1:31 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that's just because YOU started to fight. I actually think that Chris's
response was apropriate, and it even was gentle IMO. And when you get an
answer *HERE* *ON* *THIS* *LIST*, it's just because the Mandrake people feal
Dear Sir;
I am very concerned about what I have been reading here on the list from you,
and I am more concerned that even after I sent a very pleasent reply to you
you did not let me know any response. Sometimes language differences have
un-expected results in mailling lists and I really
on 11/19/00 11:14 AM, Pixel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Complete doesn't mean 'All', it's much more subjective.
Understood, with that I have no problem at all. But when one selects 'ALL',
at least it should install what one expects.
As it turns out, the installation *WAS* correctly installing
on 11/19/00 11:25 AM, Pascal Grossé at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you chose to install in 800 Mb, the installer
automatically removed some packages, using an order of importance defined
by the developpers for each package. I bet joe is not of the highest
priority in that list..
I
on 11/19/00 3:39 PM, Pixel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
see http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/72faq.php3
Pixel,
THANK YOU very much. This is a valid and good explanation of the
differences, and I appreciate that.
Now, to avoid such issues in the future, may I suggest you tell your
marketing
On Monday 20 November 2000 01:26, you wrote:
on 11/19/00 1:31 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But that's just because YOU started to fight. I actually think that
Chris's response was apropriate, and it even was gentle IMO. And when
you get an answer *HERE* *ON* *THIS*
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 03:54:55PM -0800, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote:
Which brings me back to my original question "Why is joe missing from 7.2?"
(and makes me want to bitch-slap Geoffrey for his stupid response -- unless
he can show me where it is supposed to be hidden).
It's not missing
H... I doubt you can have a complete installation of all your 4 CDs
in
just 800 Mb. One time I tried to install most of the 2 first CDs, and it
took me more than 2.5 Gb. If you chose to install in 800 Mb, the
installer
automatically removed some packages, using an order of importance
defined
just for fun how could somebody ID a random cd from the set(s). ie
given a burnt cd
how could you determine that the cd was cd 1-5 of the PP or cd 1-3 of
the "complete" set or the "walmart single"?
Robert L Martin
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" wrote:
on 11/19/00 8:49 AM, Geoffrey Lee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's gone because you're too lazy to install it:
Harry, how big is the partition you are installing to?
If it is too small, the installer gives you a percent representing
all that it can
"mdk mailin list (Harry)" wrote:
Fine, I'll accept that - but it does not distract from the fact that (as it
turns out) joe is NOT on the distribution disks I just paid $32 for, and
neither is ncftp. More on that later.
In your situation, I would take it back and get your $32 back. Then
So sprach mdk mailin list (Harry) am Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 02:11:44PM -0800:
Upon pointing that out (with some irritation, I might add) the response from
this list is condescension and arrogance, instead of realizing that there is
Why don't you realize that the "arrogance" is caused by
on 11/19/00 4:48 PM, Meir Faraj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what did u said here I've the 7.2 and joe is installed the very complete
installation of two cd only take me 3G!!! not 800M
it is in the first CD I think..
Well, as we are all discovering right now, that is because there are
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