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w9ya wrote:
As for the very real problem here. It comes with upgrades. (if an
upgrade shouldn't be done then remove the option from the installer.)
If you are running kdm now, with users hidden ( a prudent move I might
add.) and you upgrade
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Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 18:10, Buchan Milne a écrit :
If you have people running Windows domains, and are trying to convince
them to host on Mandrake, hopefully winbind auth in install works, and
you
can ask them to enter a
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:07:09 +0100, Benjamin Pflugmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 20:05:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
urpmi.setup?
And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than
5 minutes with a modem.
Thats a bit misleading. The
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 05:11 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
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w9ya wrote:
As for the very real problem here. It comes with upgrades. (if an
upgrade shouldn't be done then remove the option from the installer.)
If you are running kdm now, with
Le mar 18/03/2003 à 02:11, James Sparenberg a écrit :
Unfortunately, what people need is the Outlook shared calendars. So far,
the only product that does well is the Oracle Collaboration Suite. It's
less expensive than Exchange, but still not free.
Jean-Michel Have you looked into Bynari
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 02:11, Buchan Milne wrote:
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w9ya wrote:
As for the very real problem here. It comes with upgrades. (if an
upgrade shouldn't be done then remove the option from the installer.)
If you are running kdm now, with users
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
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james: of course you'll only hear 31337 users whining on the Cooker list,
because lusers don't use Cooker. I can see exactly who this change is aimed at:
converts from
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 04:21, Greg Meyer wrote:
And by the way, we have a dm that does not allow root login, but a new config
tool that must be run from a gui as root. Anybody have the details on this?
Erm, what config tool is that?
--
adamw
The bottom line on this for me is I am happy kdm is still offered, although I
would like to see it as part of the original install process.
Why ?
There are times in kde where even running from a su-terminal window will not
allow for certain kde setup options. So being able to log into root
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James Sparenberg wrote:
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 11:55, Buchan Milne wrote:
I'll give you one scenario where I log in as root all the time...
Install fests. I'm sure all of these people don't want a user james on
their boxanother is when a
On Monday 17 March 2003 05:37 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
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James Sparenberg wrote:
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 11:55, Buchan Milne wrote:
I'll give you one scenario where I log in as root all the time...
Install fests. I'm sure all of these
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 06:37, Buchan Milne a écrit :
I'll give you one scenario where I log in as root all the time...
Install fests. I'm sure all of these people don't want a user james on
their boxanother is when a friend calls up and says... It won't work
can you help... I log in
On Monday 17 March 2003 09:23 am, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
This is fine if you're used to command-line, but poor ex-Windows
sysadmins have problems with that.
They used to login as Administrator, open Explorer to move files around,
configure all their stuff. Now they are *forced* to use
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Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 17 March 2003 09:23 am, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
This is fine if you're used to command-line, but poor ex-Windows
sysadmins have problems with that.
They used to login as Administrator, open Explorer to move files
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 12:07, Greg Meyer a écrit :
So, I ask, what is worse? This scenario, or doing the supposedly bad
thing and logging in as root?
That's not too bad for me since I roll my own CDs and will remove
mdkkdm, but I pity the poor Todd who will have to answer phone tech
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 12:34, Buchan Milne a écrit :
Apps-File Management-File Manager super-user mode (type password of
course)
True, I completely forgot about that. However, it asks for password
every time, even if you check the save password option.
-Mandrake Control Center, type their root
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Jean-Michel Dault wrote on Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 10:23:21AM -0400 :
That's not too bad for me since I roll my own CDs and will remove
mdkkdm, but I pity the poor Todd who will have to answer phone tech
support =(
I suppose a good answer would be:
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 14:01, Todd Lyons a écrit :
That's not too bad for me since I roll my own CDs and will remove
mdkkdm, but I pity the poor Todd who will have to answer phone tech
support =(
I suppose a good answer would be:
Alt-F2 - kdesu drak_blah
True it's not intuitive, but should
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 05:39, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 17 March 2003 07:37 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 04:21, Greg Meyer wrote:
And by the way, we have a dm that does not allow root login, but a new
config tool that must be run from a gui as root. Anybody have the
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Jean-Michel Dault wrote on Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 01:24:49PM -0400 :
However, even with that option, you still have to provide the root
password for each command you want to run. The checkbox (remember
password) should be for the session, or maybe
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
-Mandrake Control Center, type their root password
-Webmin (for Samba), type their root password
Or change the perms on /etc/samba/smb.conf to give a certain group write
access ...
That's an excellent suggestion. Is it in a howto somewhere?
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
That's another option, thanks, it gives me more ammunition to blast
those NT people ;-)
However, even with that option, you still have to provide the root
password for each command you want to run. The checkbox (remember
password) should be for
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 16:21, Buchan Milne a écrit :
-Webmin (for Samba), type their root password
Or change the perms on /etc/samba/smb.conf to give a certain group write
access ...
That's an excellent suggestion. Is it in a howto somewhere?
Sorry, no time for that yet, too busy trying
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
That's an excellent suggestion. Is it in a howto somewhere?
Sorry, no time for that yet, too busy trying to convince others that
Mandrake is an enterprise-class samba server (winbind integration,
LDAP-enabled samba-2.2.x RPMS,
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:10, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
That's an excellent suggestion. Is it in a howto somewhere?
Sorry, no time for that yet, too busy trying to convince others that
Mandrake is an enterprise-class samba server (winbind
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 11:43:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 12:07, Greg Meyer a écrit :
So, I ask, what is worse? This scenario, or doing the supposedly bad
thing and logging in as root?
Cannot resist to comment :)
The scenario is worse... as example. First, someone
urpmi.setup?
And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than
5 minutes with a modem.
Thats a bit misleading. The hdlist takes an hour and fifteen minutes to
download on a 56k.
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... fastmail
Better to get it via ftp frankly...
I'm on a modem and I don't use URPMI except on local sources for that
reason.
Cheers
Jason
Jesse Wagner wrote:
urpmi.setup?
And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than
5 minutes with a modem.
Thats a bit misleading. The hdlist
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 20:05:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
urpmi.setup?
And you don't need broadband to install kdm. Needs probably less than
5 minutes with a modem.
Thats a bit misleading. The hdlist takes an hour and fifteen minutes to
download on a 56k.
Use the synthesis file
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 18:10, Buchan Milne a écrit :
If you have people running Windows domains, and are trying to convince
them to host on Mandrake, hopefully winbind auth in install works, and you
can ask them to enter a domain admin username/password, and have instant
personal webpages
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 19:41, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 11:43:00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 12:07, Greg Meyer a écrit :
So, I ask, what is worse? This scenario, or doing the supposedly bad
thing and logging in as root?
Cannot resist to
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 20:06, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
Le lun 17/03/2003 à 18:10, Buchan Milne a écrit :
If you have people running Windows domains, and are trying to convince
them to host on Mandrake, hopefully winbind auth in install works, and you
can ask them to enter a domain admin
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 21:50:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
On the other hand, the typical MS Windows user/admin will simply hit
OK, because they are used to do this all the time (that is not meant
as a flame, but personal experience with MS Windows users).
On this point .. had a
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 23:21, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
On Mon 2003-03-17 at 21:50:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
On the other hand, the typical MS Windows user/admin will simply hit
OK, because they are used to do this all the time (that is not meant
as a flame, but personal
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, b.kruissink wrote:
I agree.
But why is the possibility to enter a user by means of keying in the name
gone.
It is not gone, it just is not available in the default display manager.
I was there in al releases before 9.1.
I think that besides root no hidden user is
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
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L.s,
this solution is working.
but every one can see the user root
why is the possibility to enter a user by keying in the username no longer
available?
We had that
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 20:30 ---
l.s
why invalid
In version 7.2.8.0 8.1 8.2 and 9.0
we had the choise to select a user by means of cheking the icon or keying in
the user name
why is the last
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 20:40 ---
Because people should not be logging in to the gui as root. There are many
other ways to accomplish running gui tools as root including running from su
terminal,
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
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cybercfo,
I agree.
But why is the possibility to enter a user by means of keying in the name
gone.
I was there in al releases before 9.1.
I think that besides root
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 21:30 ---
I do agree with this, and I tried to fight for it, but I obviously lost this
battle. If you want the old display manager back, as well as the old
functionality,
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 12:30, cybercfo wrote:
Hate to say this but we are just too stupid to know how to manage our
own networks... we should be grateful for the way
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, cybercfo wrote:
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 20:40 ---
Because people should not be logging in to the gui as root. There are many
other ways to accomplish running gui tools as root including running from su
terminal, sudo, mcc,
Just tried live_update and it requires X (and of course to be root).
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 11:55, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, cybercfo wrote:
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Because people should not be logging in to the gui as
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 23:20 ---
Hate to say this but we are just too stupid to know how to manage our
own networks... we should be grateful for the way we are being managed
and not allowed to
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 11:55, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, cybercfo wrote:
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-16 20:40 ---
Because people should not be logging in to the gui as root. There are many
other ways to accomplish running gui tools as
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-17 02:41 ---
adding de l'eau au moulin :
I am logging as pascal everyday, typing pascal
then TAB then my password then ENTER in mdkkdm,
so it is not gone :) you must
On Sunday 16 March 2003 10:59 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
I'll give you one scenario where I log in as root all the time...
Install fests. I'm sure all of these people don't want a user james on
their boxanother is when a friend calls up and says... It won't work
can you help... I
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 20:21, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Sunday 16 March 2003 10:59 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
I'll give you one scenario where I log in as root all the time...
Install fests. I'm sure all of these people don't want a user james on
their boxanother is when a friend calls
On Sunday 16 March 2003 11:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
And by the way, we have a dm that does not allow root login, but a new
config tool that must be run from a gui as root. Anybody have the
details on this?
as root from a term window type drakedm Haven't found it anyplace
in
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
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On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 14:20, cybercfo wrote:
And of course you are the god who does... *sigh* I don't give a hoot
about it actually what I do give a hoot about is
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-15 20:20 ---
l.s,
Mandrake 9.1 rc 2
Only if i do not install user during install i can log in as root in the
graphical interface by means of keying in root
and root password.
As
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-15 20:50 ---
b.kruissink wrote:
To enable an icon choice for root at login: kcontrol System Login
Manager Administrator Mode Users. Here, with a combination of Show
Users
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-01 20:50 ---
ok, thanks
but why does netconf react different from linuxconf.
in the graphical environment netconf says you must be root to start netconf
linuxconf asks for root
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-28 17:50 ---
L.s,
when i want netconf i got the message you must be root
then i go to the command line give in su with root password
leave command line start netconf again.
then
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-28 20:00 ---
running su in a console doesn't make you root everywhere. it only makes
you root in that console. so run su, enter root password, then run
netconf from that console.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-27 11:10 ---
Viestissä Torstai 27. Helmikuuta 2003 01:43, jayare kirjoitti:
It's the same behaviour as WindowsXP,
where Administrator account is shown only in failsafe mode...
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1392
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-26 11:10 ---
l.s,
When i install without users then after install i have the possibility to log
in as root in the graphical interface.
Then i can create users.
When i log out
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-27 00:43 ---
I have the same problem, so is there an answer? ONly after deleting all users,
is there the possibility to even have a field available to login as root
--- You
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-09 12:19 ---
Could you tell me one thing that work as root but not with su ?
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-08 09:20 ---
pascal,
In version 9.0 in the inlog screen i have the possibilty to chose an icon or
give in the name of the user. Root is not an icon but i can enter it with
the
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