Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Warly wrote:
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
space in the GPL CDs?
Is there any
Warly wrote:
I forward it to product marketting marketting.
Thanks.
Some thoughs (I have no clear idea on the subject)
At present standard is 3 CDs.
- It is not acceptable that download edition has more packages than
standard edition
Agreed, this addresses that, and also ensures
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and
convince everybody to test it and make it good
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 04:08 am, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner,
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and
Hi all,
these are my experiences with ML 9.1 beta 2 (installed alongside with
9.0 sharing the /boot partition), I hope they can be of help. If you
think I should add some bugzilla entry, please CC: me in an eventual
reply because I'm not subscribed to cooker list at the moment.
Test system:
On 23 Jan 2003 13:23:29 +
Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example
shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake
On Thursday 23 January 2003 13:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and
convince everybody to
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote:
k3b 0.8 should be out till next month I guess. So what can arson do what k3b
can't do ? (yes I'm a k3b addict ;) )
IIRC : Burning bin/cue files.
-Danny
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b
should be ok.
But then, k3b and xcdroast must be worked on actively (in the time it
would take to maintain arson etc).
Except then GNOME guys like me don't want to use
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos.
For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have
two applications for each task (may be one for kde, the other for
gnome).
Again, I have to say I don't
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 15:24, Adam Williamson a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos.
For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have
two applications for each task (may be one for
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 06:20 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote:
Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b
should be ok.
But then, k3b and xcdroast must be worked on
Am Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003, 07:59:55 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey:
Well we could do the sane thing and completely strip gnome from the
distro accept for a few well placed aps. Thats personnaly why I
started useing it in the first pace when it was a kde distro.
I think you forgot the
Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit :
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote:
Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some
applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't
we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one.
driver has nothing to do with resizer.
resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which
assumes having resolving all interactions between vfs/mm/ntfs
regarding file holes,
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one.
driver has nothing to do with resizer.
resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which
assumes having resolving
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
I agree, but the original proposition from somebody was, I think, to
have full ntfs support using this set of tools included in Mandrake, so
I quoted this section in light of that.
I don't think anyone said anything
Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than
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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote:
Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
I mean that switching
Warly wrote:
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
space in the GPL CDs?
Is there any reason why a 4th commercial-only CD is a bad
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 16:06, Buchan Milne wrote:
Warly wrote:
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free
space in the GPL CDs?
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
Warly wrote:
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0 it shows only 456 megs, and that menas
to me that in
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote:
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Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 15:50, et wrote:
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
Warly wrote:
I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and
that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0.
ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0 it shows
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On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote:
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Damian Gatabria
*SIGH* yes I know, and we are now (I thought) discussing why GMC is going to
be left off the 9.1 download cds at 650 megs due to no size left... seems to
me the download cds, especially if we are going to have them the same as the
the first 3 standard cds now have more space avail. I know it
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:08:22 -0800
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm.. and what's the size of the mc package?
1.7 megs. Thats the current package sitting in cooker.
mc is the easiest and the the most user friendly of the CLI fm,s I have
used it since moving to linux and I would
Adam Williamson wrote:
*SIGH*
PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing.
This has been explained at LEAST five times.
The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake
has extra commercial apps on CD3. Space is left on the free version for
these
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:02, Buchan Milne wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
*SIGH*
PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing.
This has been explained at LEAST five times.
The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake
has extra commercial
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps...
Put it only in DiskDrake's expert mode. Don't enable it by default, but
have a button when you select an NTFS partition that says Enable NTFS
resizing - WARNING: EXPERIMENTAL!
What if the user has a single NTFS partition and is not
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:26, Steffen Barszus wrote:
Most of the people who are using Mandrake (and _not_ most of us) use
Konqueror or Nautilus for their file browsing. Those are the ones that
(I guess) need to be accomodated.
I guess here you are wrong, if I did not get you false.
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:14, Warly wrote:
IceWM 25
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
=)
No, the extra 64MB
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a
On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not
record can still be a very good app? :)
Sound is only broken in KDE.
Austin
Soundrecording with gnomemmeting seems to
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit :
On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not
record can still be a very good app? :)
Sound is only broken in
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 14:13, Austin Acton wrote:
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
I use my
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17:52, Pascal Cavy wrote:
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit :
On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not
record can
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't
Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-(
open Mozilla or
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote:
I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist
My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't
Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-(
my
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
NTFS partitioning tool 87 (could not be put in gpl CDs)
As said in another mail is it
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote:
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
NTFS partitioning tool 87 (could
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:04, Adam Williamson wrote:
As said in another mail is it http://ntfs-linux.sf.net ?
Today, people who want to install linux have only one HD computer with windows
XP preinstalled. They want to try linux because [put what you want here].
But, only with windows and
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:04, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote:
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit :
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why
Warly wrote:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
Some comments on those not included ...
Sun JDK 1.4.1_01 217 (could not be put in gpl CDs)
ogle 166 (codec problem)
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
--snip ---
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
according to
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
Blender 96 (not packaged)
It's in contribs
Midnight Commander 83 (really
Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be
prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes.
Last
This time Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
becomes daring and writes:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
Yes! :)
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:52, Pascal Terjan wrote:
Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote:
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla
be prefered and the
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be
prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes.
mozilla has everything inside, phoenix has only a browser. I would say
it doen't worth for us to have
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
OpenOffice 340
mplayer 329
Sun JDK 1.4.1_01 217 (could not be put in gpl CDs)
Wine 198
k3b 197
ogle 166 (codec problem)
GnuCash 143 (does not
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm)
Yep, as a filemanager on non-X servers and as a fallback when X is
in
On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
Warly wrote:
Eclipse IDE 40 (not packaged)
Also requires JRE=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it
uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how
easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite good, I
Frederik Himpe wrote:
On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
Also requires JRE=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it
uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how
easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite good, I would
like to see it on
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:45:50 +0100 (CET)
Guy.Bormann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote:
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm)
Yep, as a filemanager on non-X
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
...
Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?)
...
I vote yes - I use Phoenix all
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Warly wrote:
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
YES!! More like indispensable for those of us who don't like to operate
without it. Why do you think so many voted for it?
Dale Huckeby
Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit :
pine 52 (commercial)
In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the
commecial CDs.
By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free
parts or commercial CD.
According it, you can't
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On Monday 20 January 2003 02:14 am, Warly wrote:
Beta 2 now available.
Two 650 MB ISOs.
Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis
reason why it has not been included)
OpenOffice 340
mplayer 329
Sun JDK 1.4.1_01
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 05:14, Warly wrote:
Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
It is GOOD! It is one of the most useful audio programs. I use it
almost every day. Problem is version 1.1.1 (current in cooker and in
9.0) if full of bugs and bad audio quality. And the next version (1.1.3
I think)
Olivier Thauvin wrote:
Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit :
pine 52 (commercial)
In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the
commecial CDs.
By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free
parts or commercial CD.
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
Damian
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can record
(at least under kde cant say under gnome as Idont really care to
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not
record can still be a very good app? :)
Sound is only broken in KDE.
Austin
--
Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc.
Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching
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On Monday 20 January 2003 08:17 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
mandrake the sound is broken and
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Audacity 78 (is it really good?)
Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under
mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can record
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:17, Austin Acton wrote:
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not
record can still be a very good app? :)
Sound is only broken in KDE.
- soundwrapper audacity
Works for me.
TTFN,
Lonnie
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:01, Buchan Milne wrote:
Frederik Himpe wrote:
On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote:
...
Eclipse can be compiled with gcj: http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/
Have you tried this? I don't think it would be a good idea to include a
crashing eclipse at
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Damian Gatabria wrote on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:12:26PM + :
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?)
you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???!
I kind of agree with you, but we also have to look at the
I use MC. Every days.
Regards,
Sebastien.
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 19:46, Todd Lyons a écrit :
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Damian Gatabria wrote on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:12:26PM + :
please forgive me for butting in here... but..
Midnight Commander 83 (really
On Monday 20 January 2003 19:46, Todd Lyons wrote:
I kind of agree with you, but we also have to look at the reality of the
situation. Anybody who knows enough and is comfortable enough using a
commandline browser like mc will easily be able to:
urpmi.addmedia 91Main ftp://blah.blah.blah
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:14, Warly wrote:
IceWM 25
Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't
use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it.
Sander
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