Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 382 - when to stop documenting the provenance

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 490

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
the job. Best, Martin 2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not? Best, George On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 9:53 PM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote: Dear All, Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" : Pxxx has representa

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 442

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
in terms of what is exchanged in an acquisition event and how to describe declarative sets of things that are neither aggregates in the sense of E78 nor aggregates in the sense of E19. Look forward to the live discussion. Best, George On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:44 PM Martin Doerr <mai

Re: [Crm-sig] E Vote (Issue 404): Examples for E81-P123-P124

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
George Bruseker Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 503 HW: New examples for E13 Attribute Assignment (and E14 Condition Assessment)

2020-10-19 Thread Martin Doerr
/, 55(sup2), pp. 56–61. doi:_10.1179/sic.2010.55.Supplement-2.56_ <https://doi.org/10.1179/sic.2010.55.Supplement-2.56>. ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- --

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 442

2020-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
parts, physically bound together or kept together for their functionality, regardless whether parts are lost, destroyed, or replaced by substitutes and regardless the duration of the process that brought them together into their identifying constellation.* -- ------

[Crm-sig] Issue 490

2020-10-16 Thread Martin Doerr
e will appear by the URI of a binary encoded file existing outside the knowledge base proper, or even a paper edition. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Ins

[Crm-sig] Issue 494 Scope Note Writing

2020-10-15 Thread Martin Doerr
and stand improvement. This does not necessarily mean to become more verbose. Multiple aspects proposed in these guidelines may be implicit or obvious in a simple phrase. Please comment Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of th

[Crm-sig] Issue 484 more examples

2020-10-15 Thread Martin Doerr
chronology of the First Intermediate Period, and Assur is dated to "about 2500 BC”] Archaeologists should have more examples of relative chronology, e.g. by imported objects etc. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the C

[Crm-sig] Examples for E9, P26, P25

2020-10-14 Thread Martin Doerr
The movement of the exhibition "Tutankhamun: Treasures of the Golden Pharaoh" between Sept 15 and Nov 2 2019 (E9) /moved from/Paris, Grande Halle de la Villette (E53) Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the C

[Crm-sig] Events that did not take place.

2020-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr
17th 1874 (E7)  had general purpose Catching Moose (E55) (Activity type In First Order Logic:         P21(x,y) ⊃ E7(x)         P21(x,y) ⊃ E55(y) -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place Expression and D1 Digital Object

2020-10-08 Thread Martin Doerr
ly. Maybe if we have time in the agenda at next SIG? I'd support that! Best Martin Best, George -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Compute

Re: [Crm-sig] E Vote (Issue 404): Examples for E81-P123-P124

2020-10-07 Thread Martin Doerr
: "The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a gas cloud (E69) of some people of Pompeii in 79AD resulted in petrified bodies that could later be preserved in plaster (E22) ." Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary H

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling Question: SP5 Geometric Place Expression and D1 Digital Object

2020-10-07 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] E-Vote ( Issue 508 ): First Order Logic Representation of p170

2020-10-06 Thread Martin Doerr
r Vice Chair CIDOC CRM SIG ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Infor

Re: [Crm-sig] E-Vote: Change of Scope Note E10 Transfer of Custody (Issue 475)

2020-10-06 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] Announcement for 48th crm-sig meeting

2020-09-22 Thread Martin Doerr
jusqu'au 16 décembre 2020 | François-Mitterrand *Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement.* ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ----

[Crm-sig] Example of P168

2020-09-18 Thread Martin Doerr
e /is defined by/ 10°27'52"N 66°30'02"W (E94) [west of the Observatory of Paris = 64°09'51"W of Greenwich, actually 1,1km east of today’s Plaza Andrés Eloy Blanco of Cumaná] Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] ISSUE: Modifying art objects

2020-09-13 Thread Martin Doerr
cuss the art object first. Opinions? Best, Martin Forwarded Message Subject:Modification Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:08:33 +0430 From: Maliheh Dorkhosh To: Martin Doerr Dear Martin My research is in the field of painting. The image of one of the paintings h

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Measurements and Dimensions

2020-09-09 Thread Martin Doerr
tor for Cultural Heritage Metadata Yale University ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Cente

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Measurements and Dimensions

2020-09-09 Thread Martin Doerr
h.gr> > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Rob Sanderson Director for C

Re: [Crm-sig] Is P181 has amount different from P90 has value?

2020-08-20 Thread Martin Doerr
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[Crm-sig] ISSUE: FOL for P170

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
x) ˄ P82(y,x) Meaning: the respective time-span is exactly ongoing and within the given time primitive. Best, Martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Comp

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 499 change the cardinality of P160

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
...forgot: therefore the equivalence of P160 with P4 from E4 Period downwards is valid with cardinality (1,1:0,n) and compatible with general cardinality of P160 (1,n:0,n). M On 7/23/2020 1:06 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All, I'd like to add the reasoning about the following in issu

[Crm-sig] Issue 499 change the cardinality of P160

2020-07-23 Thread Martin Doerr
iod or E18 Physical Thing are also contiguous in time. Instances of E93 Presence defined for an STV not contiguous in time, may or may not be contiguous in time depending where it "cuts through". Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] CRMPC namespace

2020-07-11 Thread Martin Doerr
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[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Scope Note of CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Doerr
et Territoires - Tours UMR 7324 - CITERES - MSH Val de Loire BP 60449 37204 TOURS cedex 03 02 47 36 15 06 http://citeres.univ-tours.fr/lat http://masa.hypotheses.org <http://masa.hypotheses.org/> -------- *De: *"Martin Doer

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Doerr
- MSH Val de Loire BP 60449 37204 TOURS cedex 03 02 47 36 15 06 http://citeres.univ-tours.fr/lat [3] http://masa.hypotheses.org [4] - DE: "Martin Doerr" À: "crm-sig" ENVOYÉ: Lundi 6 Juillet 2020 20:35:08 OBJET: Re: [Crm-sig] CRMinf -> Belief

Re: [Crm-sig] CRMinf -> Belief Adoption

2020-07-06 Thread Martin Doerr
ts.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Infor

[Crm-sig] PLEASE NOTE: gmail behavior using crm-sig

2020-06-30 Thread Martin Doerr
the list by checking your sent mail. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas

[Crm-sig] Home Work, P164

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
the nature of a spacetime volume within the temporal limits of the respective phenomenon. For instance, for describing the whereabouts of some person during a particular war period.* Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

[Crm-sig] New Issue: Types for p2 has type

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
m-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 475 Example addition

2020-06-25 Thread Martin Doerr
ale. Rob -- Rob Sanderson ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

[Crm-sig] HW scope note of E59 Primitive Value

2020-06-24 Thread Martin Doerr
ich in turn is linked to **the actual encoded symbolic form**.* In a concrete application, it is recommended that the primitive value system from a chosen implementation platform and/or data definition language be used to substitute for this class and its subclasses. -- ----

[Crm-sig] Homework: Issue_453.docx

2020-06-20 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Here my proposal for Issue 453, related to CRM version 7.0 Best, martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for

Re: [Crm-sig] version 7.0 of CIDOC CRM

2020-06-20 Thread Martin Doerr
cs.forth.gr --- ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Compu

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 450 HW

2020-06-15 Thread Martin Doerr
aws of physics" to exclude models such as discrete time. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE 463: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-06-11 Thread Martin Doerr
that are used in cultural documentation.  This class specifically excludes features that have no semantic significance, such as scratches or tool marks. These should be documented as instances of E25 Human-Made Feature. Best, Martin On 1/17/2020 6:22 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear All,

Re: [Crm-sig] HW reminder - issue 481

2020-06-06 Thread Martin Doerr
remind you the HW about socP21 & socP22 of the issue 481 <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-481-scope-notes-for-socp21-and-socp22>. all the best Chryssoula -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural I

Re: [Crm-sig] Introductions - Philippe Michon - Semantic Web Analyst at CHIN

2020-06-05 Thread Martin Doerr
27;information sur le patrimoine (RCIP) Ministère du Patrimoine canadien, Gouvernement du Canada 1030 chemin Innes, Ottawa (Ontario), K1B 4S7 philippe.mic...@canada.ca <mailto:philippe.mic...@canada.ca> Tél. : 613-998-3721 poste 225 ou 1-800-520-2446 *De :*George Bruseker *Envoyé :* 28 avril 20

[Crm-sig] ISSUE 483

2020-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr
comment. Best wishes, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

[Crm-sig] Home Work, examples for P102 has title

2020-05-06 Thread Martin Doerr
d Mergentheim, Germany (E24) /has title/“Die Stuppacher Madonna” (E35) /has type/vernacular, popular title (E55) [The work has no known title from the artist. It is currently named             after its current place of exhibition] -- -------- Dr. Martin Do

Re: [Crm-sig] [CRMarchaeo] E-vote for the label of A1 Excavation Process Unit

2020-04-27 Thread Martin Doerr
for not accepting, by May 7  2020. all the best Chryssoula ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-23 Thread Martin Doerr
.archives-ouvertes.fr/search/index/?qa[auth_t][]=Francesco+Beretta&sort=producedDate_tdate+desc> Message transféré Sujet : Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another Date : Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:04:09 +0300 De :Martin Doerr Pour :

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-22 Thread Martin Doerr
collectivism that the we-mode approach involves is both conceptually and rational-functionally different from what an individualistic approach ("pro-group I-mode" approach) entails. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: sequence of modelling steps (Modelling an Actor carrying...)

2020-04-20 Thread Martin Doerr
that does not offer an immediately satisfactory solution. Such discipline is helpful for the long-term quality of our Model, and saves a lot of time and misunderstandings in communication, in particular maintaining the right sequence of arguments. I therefore I make an ISSUE here: CRM-SIG should cre

Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors)

2020-04-18 Thread Martin Doerr
lone 😊 Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:15 AM *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors) Dear Robert, Very good remarks! but... I may say that this discus

Re: [Crm-sig] Activity Partitioning (was Actors acting for other Actors)

2020-04-17 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling the number of sheets used to print a book

2020-04-17 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
...in addition, we should think about digital images of printed material providing the identity of content for a lost physical item... On 4/16/2020 9:46 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear George, You are right, this is an open and important question. I have repeatedly pointed to that issue in CRM

Re: [Crm-sig] Question: How to model a 'file'

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
ltiple use cases requiring different patterns. Anyhow, what do you think? Best, George ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
e. Could be for CRMsoc. Best, Martin Anyhow just food for thought. Best, George ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] E-Votes , rules

2020-04-16 Thread Martin Doerr
-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Researc

Re: [Crm-sig] Modelling an Actor carrying out an action at the Behest of Another

2020-04-15 Thread Martin Doerr
7;manner' in a grammatical sense with CRM and somehow the .1 properties aid with this important kind of construct. Anyhow just food for thought. Best, George *CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Getty. Do n

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE 380 continued: revision of P81, P82 (ISSUE 380 continued)

2020-03-24 Thread Martin Doerr
e (E52) /at some time within/ 1406-1420(E61) -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory I

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of?

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Doerr
that wait for elaboration of suitable vocabs. Best, martin Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 7:48 AM *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" *Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of? Dear Robert, All, I see the point, but pr

[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM and TELOS

2020-03-13 Thread Martin Doerr
6M-3D> Kind regards Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

[Crm-sig] examples for temporal primitives

2020-03-12 Thread Martin Doerr
d of* oA^end < B^end -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.

Re: [Crm-sig] Describing Exhibitions ?

2020-03-08 Thread Martin Doerr
orary Aggregate" would be useful (P2 has type:...). This can pertain to many situations and processes. A new class, in whatever extension, could specify the exhibition activity. All the best, Martin On 3/7/2020 7:20 PM, Martin Doerr wrote: Dear Thomas, Just to clarify: Any fixed set of ob

Re: [Crm-sig] Describing Exhibitions ?

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
_ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: Normal Custodian Of?

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Instit

Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: [Sci] Labels of O19, O21

2020-03-07 Thread Martin Doerr
 |  Getty Digital  | getty.edu <http://getty.edu/> signature_1632129958 ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Ho

[Crm-sig] New ISSUE: presence covered parts of

2020-03-04 Thread Martin Doerr
esence from Nov. 19 1755 until April 9 1978 /during/ Nov. 19 1755 until April 9 1768 E93: The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14 P166: The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14 /P166 was a presence of/ The Roman Empire (E4) -- Dr. Martin Doerr

[Crm-sig] P170 scope note, issue 434

2020-02-27 Thread Martin Doerr
of E61 Time Primitive with the instance of E52 <#_E53_Place> Time-Span that constitutes the interpretation of the terms of the time primitive as an extent in absolute, real time. In First Order Logic: P170(x,y) ⊃E61(x) P170(x,y) ⊃E52(y) -- ----

[Crm-sig] About stratigraphic relations

2020-02-25 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Here an example of a geological stratigraphy with complex arguments of before and after (synclines and anticlines) https://pixels.com/featured/folded-rock-with-anticline-dan-guravich.html Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] My HW Issue 294: appears in etc.

2020-02-20 Thread Martin Doerr
rm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 11:38 AM *To: *crm-sig *Subject: *[Crm-sig] My HW Issue 294: appears in etc. Dear all, Here my reworking of the scope notes: *appears in* Domain:   E55 Type Range: E4 Period Subprop

[Crm-sig] My HW Issue 294: appears in etc.

2020-02-20 Thread Martin Doerr
- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH) N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,G

Re: [Crm-sig] Relative position under and over - adjusted text

2020-02-16 Thread Martin Doerr
chille and Gerald. We all live on Earth where the gravity force makes up and down well defined.​ Best, Christian-Emil *From:* Crm-sig mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr>> on behalf of

[Crm-sig] Quantification of P160, P161

2020-02-14 Thread Martin Doerr
lt;#_E18_Physical_Thing> Physical Thing. P156 <#_P153_assigned_co-reference> occupies (is occupied by): E53 <#_E53_Place> Place Quantification: one to many, necessary, dependent (1,n:1,1) is wrong, it must be (1,n:0,n) Reason: declarative Spacetime volumes can share identical proje

Re: [Crm-sig] workshop tutorials at CIDOC 2020: September 19-25, 2020?

2020-02-13 Thread Martin Doerr
s you verify the sender and know the content is safe.* ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head o

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUES: quantification of P169,170,171, 172

2020-02-13 Thread Martin Doerr
tification: (0,n:0,n) P172 contains Domain: E53 <#_E53_Place> Place Range: E94 <#_E94_Space_Primitive> Space Primitive Quantification: (0,n:0,n) Best, martin -- ---- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics

Re: [Crm-sig] Relative position under and over - adjusted text

2020-02-06 Thread Martin Doerr
__ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laborato

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: space and time primitives are appellations.

2020-01-31 Thread Martin Doerr
IsA CRM Entity, which solves some problems in the FOL representation. This follows a recommendation from the last SIG meeting, and is my homework for *ISSUE 400*. Best, Martin -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultura

[Crm-sig] Membership PLEASE VOTE

2020-01-30 Thread Martin Doerr
homas Hänsli (Managing Director) and Nicola Carboni (Semantic Architect)." PLEASE VOTE YES or NO  by 13/2/2020 Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory

Re: [Crm-sig] The archivists are (stil) a different sect ?

2020-01-27 Thread Martin Doerr
. Rob *From: *Crm-sig <mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr> *Date: *Monday, January 27, 2020 at 1:53 AM *To: *"crm-sig@ics.forth.gr" <mailto:crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> <mailto:crm-sig@ics.f

Re: [Crm-sig] The archivists are (stil) a different sect ?

2020-01-27 Thread Martin Doerr
ns of mappings (in rico:closeTo) and OWL equivalences between some classes or properties and components in other models (among which - this is not an exhaustive list- CIDOC-CRM, IFLA-LRM, PREMIS, PROV-O, and Schema.org)" . -- Dr. Ma

[Crm-sig] Examples for P189 approximates

2020-01-26 Thread Martin Doerr
oximates/ Mount Olympus National Park, Greece (coordinates from https://www.geonames.org/6941814) Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Co

[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE FOL for properties with range type

2020-01-25 Thread Martin Doerr
t; --has produced (was produced by) E12 <#_E12_Production>Production E24 <#_E24_Physical_Man-Made_Thing>Physical Human-Made Thing  These new FOL axioms: P125(x,y) ⊃ ($z)[E70(z) ∧ P16(x,z) ∧ P2(z,y)] P32((x,y) ⊃ ($z)[E29(z) ∧ P33(x,z) ∧ P2

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Doerr
@getty.edu>> wrote: From a practical perspective, when modeling a short text that’s on a physical object … how can I know when that should be a Mark+Linguistic Object, or when it is an Inscription? Rob *From: *Crm-sig mailto:crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr>> on behal

[Crm-sig] ISSUE P172 quantification

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Doerr
1 23.725947) (E94) In First Order Logic: P172(x,y) ⊃E53(x) P172(x,y) ⊃E94(y)[e1] [e1] <#_msoanchor_1>added -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center f

Re: [Crm-sig] and now something completely different - a modelling question

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Doerr
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Re: [Crm-sig] and now something completely different - a modelling question

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Doerr
. Not as a Group because there are many. This is a construct to define a form of Actor. Could be subclassed adequately in CRMsoc. Best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems

Re: [Crm-sig] and now something completely different - a modelling question

2020-01-20 Thread Martin Doerr
_ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Re

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-19 Thread Martin Doerr
nior Researcher of the dept. of archaeology of Eastern Europe and Siberia of the State Hermitage Museum, PhD, ICOMOS member E-mail: ho...@hermitage.ru <mailto:ho...@hermitage.ru> Skype: daria.hookk https://hermitage.academia.edu/HookkDaria -- -----

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-19 Thread Martin Doerr
Norwegian 'Don'cry!'. An engraving 'Ikke grin!​' is it one inscription, two inscrptions or no inscription (Mark) and simply a human made physical feature? Best, Christian-Emil -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-18 Thread Martin Doerr
have a language. C-E *From:* Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Sent:* 18 January 2020 13:59 *To:* crm-sig@ics.forth.gr *Subject:* Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark I also disagree with E, but letters and combinations should not be regarded Linguistic Objects. They do not have a

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-18 Thread Martin Doerr
e should be changed to remove “short text” to avoid this issue. Marks should be explicitly NOT text and only symbols, and if there is a linguistic interpretation of the content, then they should instead be Inscriptions. Hope that clarifies! Rob *From: *Martin Doerr mailto:m

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-18 Thread Martin Doerr
ope note should be changed to remove “short text” to avoid this issue. Marks should be explicitly NOT text and only symbols, and if there is a linguistic interpretation of the content, then they should instead be Inscriptions. Hope that clarifies! Rob *From: *Martin Doer

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-18 Thread Martin Doerr
(after Jahtanigov H., 1993) or fig.9: Symbol-tamga Nr.2, Tiberius Julius Eupatoros (Fig. 9) (after Solomonik, E., 1959) best, Martin -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Labo

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
it should read:  … as they are used to codify the marks in reference documents … (or something like that) Many thanks, Rob *From: *Crm-sig on behalf of Martin Doerr *Date: *Friday, January 17, 2020 at 8:25 AM *To: *crm-sig *Subject: *[Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark Dear A

Re: [Crm-sig] HW: Issue 431

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
ss is associated with a set of real life individuals, known as the extension of the class in that interpretation. The sum of the extensions over all interpretations equals to the intension of the class." On 16 Jan 2020, at 18:15, Martin Doerr wrote: On 1/16/2020 3:10 PM, Bekiari Xrysoula wr

Re: [Crm-sig] agents of deterioration

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
sion". :-) You can make a faceted vocabulary of corrosion types by impact type. best, martin All the best, Thanasis ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ---

[Crm-sig] ISSUE: Scope note of E37 Mark

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
/. Lanham, MD: Scarecrow Press, 1996. Caplan, H. H. and Bob Creps. /Encyclopedia of Artists' Signatures, Symbols & Monograms: Old Masters to Modern, North American & European plus More; 25,000 Examples/. Land O'Lakes, FL: Dealer's Choice Books, 1999. -- -----

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
t; So I think this would work. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-17 Thread Martin Doerr
Ethan ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr <mailto:Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig *CAUTION: This emai

[Crm-sig] HW: Issue 431

2020-01-16 Thread Martin Doerr
(was employed in)/. -- Dr. Martin Doerr Honorary Head of the Center for Cultural Informatics Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Martin Doerr
e issue is raised of course about the extensions familiy. Best Francesco ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- -------- Dr. Martin Doerr

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE P114-P120 VOTE

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Doerr
their different versions. I think point 1 and 2 should be clarified to the voters before we vote. Just avoir B..x.. situations. All the best Francesco Le 12.01.20 à 11:13, Martin Doerr a écrit : Dear All, If you agree that "the following Allen's temporal relations should be de

[Crm-sig] ISSUE P114-P120 VOTE

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Doerr
 nor in the list of issues. I suggest that this decision could be done by email vote. Best, Christian-Emil ​ ___ Crm-sig mailing list Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig -- ------

[Crm-sig] Homework

2020-01-03 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, I wish you all a Happy New Year, successful and in good health. Here my attempt to describe the reality concept of the CRM and its relation to a knowledge base. Please comment!! --- Reality and Knowledge Bases The CI

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