From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I under stand that as a result of the Data Protection Act (or some such)
> a person caught on cctv can on paying a L10 fee have a copy of it. If
> this can be confirmed then I will be asking the Met for copies of all
> tapes that I am on, and if they can't ident
From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here is the "reply" if you could call it that from William
Hague. It seems that all that happens is the reader sees
the word "handgun" and prints out the "standard" "handgun"
letter without bothering to read further. Monkey see...monkey do?
"Mr
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been recalling a lot of things about police
activity in Manchester UK at the end of the Great War
and one of the points that has come up is the transfer
of mounted "Irish police thugs" to England in 1920
from their job of holding down Ireland t
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's a lot more than just "protecting minors"
involved. Cullen repeatedly said that no minors had
been sexually assaulted by Hamilton - so why would
they need this kind of "protection"? Why can't they
just be identified as "child A", "child B"?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> P.S. Didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger use a sawn off (Barrel & Stock) Large Loop
> Winchester in Terminator 2? - Just thought of that!!!
That was a shotgun 1897 Winchester? The loop was cut
away in part to allow it to be spun rather than enlarged.
Jonathan Laws
From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Excuse me they are not worthless 9mm JSP rounds. They are highly dangerous
prohibited expanding ammunition suitable for use in even more dangerous
prohibited small firearms. And...contained in (if ACPO had its way) a
component part - the magazine -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_1123000/1123192.stm
The above is a BBC site that lists exactly how each MP voted on the ban on fox
hunting.
Kenneth Pantling
Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org
List admin: [EMAIL PROT
From: Pete Ansbro, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't suppose we should any logic from the football minister:
> But Tony Banks(Lab, West Ham) who is against hunting, gave assurances that
> he, personally, would never ban angling. He said: "You don't hunt fish with
> dogs and if you are a decent a
From: "Ron Rosenfeld", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stuart wrote
"So I won't be put off from joining the Countryside Alliance march
by imagined threats of retaliation. The reason I won't be going is
because I'm opposed to fox hunting. You do what you think's right."
Sorry to hear that you're
From: Pete Ansbro, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Most informed
> speculation suggests that MPs will vote overwhelmingly for an
> outright ban on hunting with dogs.
> Animal rights activists have nearly succeeded in putting a company out
> of business because it uses animal experiments for medic
From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, is this now how the "Labour" party now worksEvery 3 years it *HAS*
to BAN an activity & Persecute a section of society - from past & present
experience - the most law abiding sections?
Oh, not to mention the infringement & removal of the right of
From: "Lorne Gunter", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Appeared in the Edmonton Journal Wednesday 17 February 2001
Which country is the source of these headlines, all of
which have run in newspapers there since the New Year?
"Panic over gun crime.'' "Police move to tackle huge rise
in gun crime.'' "
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< His email address is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If there are any political suggestions for him to investigate send
him an email!!!
>>
Memories seem a little short round here. Mark Thomas is very anti-gun and
very anti-hunting. He was responsibl
From: andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Browsing in Waterstons this dinner and came across a new book:
Gun Culture or Gun Control, firearms violence and society by Peter
Squires and published by Routledge. Priced L16.99.
Supposedly a far reaching and unbiased analysis and report into the
curren
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WAUGH - THE ARCH-ENEMY OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS 171536 JAN 10
By Sam Greenhill, PA News Auberon Waugh was shy, courteous,
kind and gentle - in person. In print, the writer and satirist
was a different animal, his acerbic views variously described
as scathing, nasty
From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did anyone see Tony Banks MP in the debate on Fox Hunting,
mention his recent mugging by 3 "Black" youths (also stated on
"Clarkson" - BBC2)
Interesting to see how his view of muggings & violent crime
has changed now - He has now stated twice, first on
From: "Richard Loweth", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clicking on this takes us to Hansard. Click then on 17 January
and you can see what your MP had to say...or not!
http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm/cmhansrd.htm
Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org
List
From: "Tom Charnock", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you are looking for links to all sorts of USA gun cases then try
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/index.html
Tom
Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org
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_
From: "Andrew Chastney", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The argument I always use against banning fox hunting
is that foxes will become extinct in various areas as there will be no
reason to put up with them any longer.
Steve.
It's a good argument; the Isle of Man is a case in point. Foxhunting
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I agree with Steve.
>
>An inspection of the Oxford Dictionary will confirm that there are no such
>words as proofed or proofing. An item is sent for "proof" (ie proof of its
>integrity), when done it said to be "proved" (ie its integrity has be
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Actually thinking about this today, presumably 12 ft/lb
>was decided on back when grey squirrels were pretty rare,
The 12ft-lb limit exists because it was felt that anything lower would
be insufficient to humanely kill agricultural pests -- mean
From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the first time I've actually seen the intended penalties for hunting
when any ban comes into force.
A maximum of a L5,000 fine.
Having noted that its a maximum and that probably a lesser amount may be
levied I wonder how many people the averag
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I need some help from CS contributors to reply. I have put
>my queries in brackets:
>Quote:
>The overall
>crime rate in this country has risen during the same period, and much armed
>crime will be linked to rises in other areas of crime
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yesterdays vote in the House of Prats marked a new low for the principle of
freedom in the no longer Great Britain.
How many people like me are fed up with the nanny state, political
correctness, and the hypocrisy of the idiots who have the absolute right
(courte
From: Pete Ansbro, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's just a thought, but has anyone considered the idea of a placard
along the lines of "UK Shooters on the net - www.cybershooters.org"?
A simple poster design lodged on the net (for downloading and sticking
to a suitable card on a stick) would perh
From: Jonathan Spencer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Telegraph 11.1.01
>
>Stray horses on motorway are shot dead
>By David Sapsted
>
>
>THREE horses, part of a group that has been roaming and causing
>chaos on the roads for two months, have been shot dead by police.
Any information on what t
From: Pete Ansbro, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm starting to hear about an interview this morning (18th January) with
the Chief Constable of Yorkshire who, apparently, was chiding the
Government for creating an impossible burden for police forces by
banning fox hunting. I hear he was quite mutinou
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Telegraph
ISSUE 2065 Friday 19 January 2001
Hunt ban will harm country policing, say chiefs
By John Steele, Crime Correspondent
CHIEF constables have warned the Home Office that a ban on hunting with dogs
could damage relationships be
From: "bob blake", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The egg is received with thanks, but not yet cracked.
I am still unable to find any reference to Proofing or Proofed in the OED,
it may be that my edition is earlier than yours, so will accept that there
is an entry under Proof Sheet / etching. Howev
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pity that Stuart Heal is not going on the March because he's "opposed to fox
hunting". I thought we all knew by now, even many of the diehard Bisley
single-shot target rifle types, that if we don't hang together we'll all hang
separately... Even if only out of se
From: "Earl W", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As you may know, Mr Mohamed Al Fayed is sponsoring
Independent MP's for the next election.
This really is too good an opportunity to pass up, just
think...all the wrongs that could be righted with us in
Parliament!!!
the email address is:
[EMAIL P
From: "Dr Chris R. Tame", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/waters/2001/jan/edrw011701.htm
>The Self Defense Files:
>Gimme Back My Bullets
>published: 01.17.01
>
>
>In most states, they'd at least have had a chance.
>
>The seven victims in the recent Wak
From: SSAA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Station:RADIO NATIONAL Date: 19/01/2001
Program:RADIO NATIONAL BREAKFASTTime: 07:50 AM
Compere:SANDY MCCUTCHEONSummary ID: C3071498
SANDY MCCUTCHEON: There are half a billion of them in circulation
causin
From: "David M", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Police said today they had recovered a magazine containing
15 rounds of live ammunition lost by armed officers. A member of the public
from the Carrington area of Nottingham rang police at 2.45am to say he had
found what he thought was the missing magazin
From: "alellis", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I picked this up of another list. Could it be true.?
Old English laws still on the books:
All English males over the age 14 are to carry out 2 or so hours of longbow
practice a week supervised by the local clergy.
You can only shoot a Welsh p
From: Neil Francis, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>If there are any political suggestions for him to investigate send
>him an email!!!
How about a follow up to the expose he did on the Countryside Alliance in
1998? I seem to remember many hunters and shooters didn't like him too much
the
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NRA-ILA FAX ALERT
Vol. 8, No. 3 1/19/01
ANOTHER BUSH CABINET NOMINEE FACES ATTACK BY GORE SUPPORTERS
Last week, we told you about the attacks by gun-ban extremists on
President-elect George W. Bush's nominee for Attorney General, former U.S.
Senator John Ash
Go and have a look at this:
http://www.official-documents.co.uk/document/cm50/5001/5001-03.htm
There's a lot of interesting stuff here. Look for example
at table 3.12, that indicates that 142 handguns were stolen
from residential premises 1999-2000. As very few handguns
can be legally k
From: "Mike Burns", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 12ft-lb limit exists because it was felt that anything lower would
be insufficient to humanely kill agricultural pests -- meaning rabbits
and woodies. Squirrels are more effectively controlled by trapping, and
few people eat them. (And those who
From: "VinceB", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Listers,
Can anyone tell me the time and assembly point for the London March? And in
case anyone is monitoring this and might withdraw my FAC, - I'm just asking
on behalf of someone else!
Cheers
VinceB
--
All the info is on their website, I think, www.
From: "Mike Burns", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H. Looks like most of the country and market town MP's are anti-ban.
Now that's not surprising, really. Unfortunately there appear to be far
more urban constituancies than rural.
Ho hum. The morality of the town being shoved into the faces
From: "Ian Summerell", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I don't know how far these have got - been out a lot yesterday and will be
> out most of today!
>
> Evening Standard (again)
> http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/html/news.html
> "Would you support a campaign of civil disobedience"
>
> North Devon
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hiya,
I'm sorry, but I just have to add my two pence worth to this thread!
One or two contributors have made reference to the ISO 9000
series as if they were some sort of guarantee of quality - They
are not.
ISO 9001, 9002 and 9003 (or t
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Police to get new powers on DNA testing
By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
Source
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000114832908976&rtmo=0xGisxNq&atmo=0xGisxNq&p
g=/et/01/1/20/ndna20.html
THE prospect of routine DNA screening of the entire population dr
Oh, Neil, how wrong you are! I only wish you were correct. The things I
could tell you...
Steve.
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