Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

On 30/07/2024 15:24, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, mick.crane wrote: I was concerned the '1722260402.M755015P70320.xx,S=17279,W=17606:2,S' numbers might get mixed up with new ones but didn't seem to matter. [...] Yes, I use unison to keep some imap servers in sync. Maildir

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!; was: systemd may silently break your system!

On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote: I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if it is a configuration file at first (e.g. dpkg -s). Despite most of files in /etc/ are marked as

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 29/07/2024 02:57, 타토카 wrote: Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". Since you are asking this question, likely it is not enough. If your hardware allows it then consider

Re: bash history

On 28/07/2024 08:01, mick.crane wrote: Sometimes I forget where I was after closing a virtual terminal  and it would be handy to see the history in a new terminal, where I "cd'd" to for example. help history less ~/.bash_history

Re: info is not dead

On 27/07/2024 20:00, Nate Bargmann wrote: Texinfo is from a time when GNU documentation was only man pages or flat text files and something "better" was desired for moving through a manual in what is now known as a hypertext format. It also includes a lot of semantic markup rather than the

Re: switch users and still use display

On 27/07/2024 23:06, Greg Wooledge wrote: Yes, but the other ways are *far* more complicated, especially when neither user1 nor user2 is root. The issue is that in order to authenticate yourself to the X server, you present a token, known as a "magic cookie". in some cases xhost

Re: Alternative to Authy

On 23/07/2024 09:16, jeremy ardley wrote: I use Google Authenticator as an option in pam to secure ssh connections. [...] NB. Google Authenticator does not use any Google cloud services. It is purely a local application on your machine. Do you mean rfc6238 Time-based One-time Password (TOTP)

Re: combine two commands via pipe

On 26/07/2024 09:25, Andy Smith wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 10:00:48AM +0800, cor...@free.fr wrote: $ sudo ls -ltr "/tmp/$(ls /tmp |grep apache)" [...] So what is wrong with just using a glob as suggested? Not all people are realizing how many pitfalls they may face using shell. (I

Re: combine two commands via pipe

On 26/07/2024 06:59, cor...@free.fr wrote: My actual requirement is that I want to 'ls -ltr' into a subdir in /tmp. that subdir is apache's tmp dir. but the name of the subdir is too long (hard to copy), so I am looking for a easier way. Use glob if it is acceptable sudo ls -ltr

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

On 25/07/2024 19:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 18:54:38 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=recall=32 [...] I can't quite guess what "text has no left margin" means here. Firefox-115, see the attachment. Notice tha

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

On 25/07/2024 10:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 09:50:43 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw=33 has one empty line after "<>" while rev=22 has 2 empty lines and it may be more significant than a space before &quo

Re: Trouble when editing a Debian wiki page

On 25/07/2024 02:05, Franco Martelli wrote: I'm using firefox-esr version: 115.13.0esr-1~deb12u1 Here I see the TOC not indented (no space before << tag): https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables?action=raw Here instead I see the TOC indented (a space before << tag):

Re: Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

On 24/07/2024 20:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: Everyone skips over the sentence that begins with "Omitting the colon". Every time we try to tell Chet, "Hey, man, please add examples that show BOTH syntaxes", he blows us off, because this is the way POSIX documents it. If it's good enough for POSIX,

Re: Logs like .xsession-errors, was: fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start ...

On 23/07/2024 19:20, Thomas Schmitt wrote: A bit off-topic question. In what wiki page you would expect to find suggestions to inspect ~/.xsession-errors file and journalctl output? I pasted ".xsession-errors" into the "Search:" field at the upper right corner of any Debian wiki page and

Re: [Solved] vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

On 23/07/2024 19:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: Some ideas: :help :make :help clientserver I think these two lean a little too much towards the ":!rm -rf" side. It was in the context of jumping to compiler error. You can start build from vim or load

Re: fvwm on Debian 12: Modules do not start. How to debug ?

On 23/07/2024 04:09, Thomas Schmitt wrote: $ cat ~/.xsession-errors [...] [fvwm][executeModule]: <> No such module 'FvwmConsole' in ModulePath '/usr/lib/fvwm/2.6.8' A bit off-topic question. In what wiki page you would expect to find suggestions to inspect ~/.xsession-errors file and

Re: [Solved] Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

On 23/07/2024 14:57, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: I would consider some convenient key mapping that should be executed before pasting line number instead of disabling bracketed paste completely. There is a chance to paste something weird with hidden text from a web page or from

Re: [Solved] Re: vim on Debian 12: How to disable the mouse GUI mode ?

On 23/07/2024 00:40, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: https://vi.stackexchange.com/questions/18001/why-cant-i-paste-commands-into-vi Apparently when in an "xterm environment" (whatever that means; apparently it includes rxvt-unicode), turning on bracketed paste mode works: :set

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. I

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 02:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 18/07/2024 00:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 17:58:57 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: No, I'm talking about sudo, not su. I'm not a sudo user so I can't test but my understanding is that root inherits the umask of the invoking user (or it used to) Looks like this is still true.

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 19/07/2024 10:45, songbird wrote: - Does MATE use scopes and services to run applications an components? "ps xwf" and "systemd-cgls" trees may clarify where started applications appear. neither of those show all the programs that i have included on the panels, but there are cgroups and

Re: the usage of env

On 20/07/2024 05:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: #!/bin/sh echo "I am a.sh, and inside me, VAR=<$VAR>." A way to report a bit more information: cat /tmp/test.sh #!/bin/sh printf "%s: VAR %5s %10s value=<%s>\n" \ "$0" "${VAR+set}" "${VAR:+not empty}" "$VAR" /tmp/test.sh /tmp/test.sh: VAR

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 16/07/2024 20:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 23:39:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Now we just need for GNOME users to discover a way to configure the programs that are started as children of dbus, and then we can move forward. Documentation would be my top priority. If

Re: stty permanently undef "start"

On 12/07/2024 10:56, Max Nikulin wrote: I have a question opposite to the original one. Is it possible to disable xon for bash prompt, but enable it while foreground commands are running? I do not mind to use forward search in readline history. As to the original question, Emacs and Vim

Re: web site displays blank page

On 19/07/2024 00:17, Russell L. Harris wrote: CHEWY is a large nation-wide outfit.  I suspect the trouble is with RTA, because of frequent freezes when viewing a certain news website, while all other streams are uninterrupted with my 10/1 service from RTA. Some web sites are rather aggressive

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 19/07/2024 04:11, songbird wrote: so far, agreed, i poked at it a bit the other day to see if MATE would work with the roughly (user-@1000,etc) systemd unit approach but that didn't accomplish anything i could tell. It would be great if those, who tried it, reported more precise what

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 17/07/2024 22:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: hobbit:/etc/pam.d$ dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/common-session dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/pam.d/common-session Where does that file come from, then? This file contains the following: # As of pam 1.0.1-6, this file is managed by

Re: Bug Report

On 16/07/2024 15:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Richard Bostrom wrote: Bug in my opinion. /etc/resolv.conf does not block out pornography [...] I'd put it in other words: DNS doesn't serve porn :-) Are you sure that no troll have put some funny ASCII-art in their txt records? And

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 15/07/2024 09:15, Alan D. Salewski wrote: I suspect that most people /do/ change it, once they become aware of it, for the very reason stated in the comment above 'UMASK' in the /etc/login.defs file:     # UMASK is the default umask value for pam_umask and is used by     # useradd and

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 17/07/2024 15:37, Tim Woodall wrote: umask 077 can come with its own problems when using shared directories. Taking into account old 022 vs. 002 discussions it might be 007. I'm not a sudo user but IIUC, root inherits the umask, which can then

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 16/07/2024 10:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: hobbit:~$ cat .config/systemd/user/service.d/env.conf [Service] Environment="FOO=%h/test123" "BAR=b a r" hobbit:~$ systemctl --user daemon-reload hobbit:~$ systemctl --user start xterm.service daemon-reload is not enough in KDE. krunner and plasmashell

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 16/07/2024 19:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 18:42:40 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/07/2024 10:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: hobbit:~/.config$ cat systemd/user/xterm.service I am a bit afraid that corner cases might exist because there are no .service files for applications

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 16/07/2024 10:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 09:58:20 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: cat ~/.config/systemd/user/service.d/umask.conf [Service] UMask=0007 I googled "how to create a systemd user service" and got The following blog posts (0pointer.de) may be a bi

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 16/07/2024 08:34, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 08:02:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: systemd.exec(5) UMask= [...] [5] refers to <https://systemd.io/USER_RECORD>. I do not have systemd-homed running (minimal KDE). I have no idea concerning default Gnome installati

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 15/07/2024 20:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you use a Desktop Environment, go to your DE's support mailing list, and ask them how to set your umask so that it works as expected in all of your programs. (I am not convinced that default umask should be changed) systemd.exec(5) UMask=

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 15/07/2024 01:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 19:57:45 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: The place to do this is the X session [1]; system-wide in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/... and for each user in ~/.xsessionrc. Does that work in KDE? First of all, it is up to display manager to

Re: purely local DNS

On 15/07/2024 20:00, Adam Weremczuk wrote: - ability to fetch a single MX record for a single domain I assume that you are not trying to achieve "smart host" configuration for sending mail. Perhaps you can run a dedicated dnsmasq instance with no upstream DNS servers. Option that might

Re: umask - default user settings?

On 15/07/2024 01:32, Hans wrote: I see itthe other way round. No, if you are in the secure area, it is the responsibility of the owner to make it secure by design i.e with dself closing doors where you can not look into or windows with curtains. The door is closed by default in bookworm. User

Re: stty permanently undef "start"

On 11/07/2024 22:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 22:43:58 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 10/07/2024 20:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: test -t 0 && stty -ixon I have a question opposite to the original one. Is it possible to disable xon for bash prompt, but enable

Re: stty permanently undef "start"

On 10/07/2024 20:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: test -t 0 && stty -ixon I have a question opposite to the original one. Is it possible to disable xon for bash prompt, but enable it while foreground commands are running? Sometimes I use [Ctrl+s] to pause verbose output of some tool. On the

Re: question related to cp (-p) and /tmp

On 10/07/2024 08:48, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 08:20:23 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 10/07/2024 02:35, Thomas Schmitt wrote: setfattr -n system.nfs4_acl -v '\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\26\1\247\0\0\0\6OWNER@\0\0\0\0\0' /tmp/x Shell does not interpret backslashes

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF

On 10/07/2024 15:37, Ceppo wrote: but I couldn't build a working gs command. [...] [1]: https://github.com/qpdf/qpdf/issues/85 There is a link to gs arguments

Re: How to find suitable mailing list or USENET group

On 09/07/2024 23:15, John Hasler wrote: I don't think a graphical Usenet client exists but it easily could. Even easier might be a browser plugin. Thunderbird supports NNTP and likely Claws as well. Gnus (Emacs) should be a bit more than just text UI. I am in doubts what you mean by

Re: question related to cp (-p) and /tmp

On 10/07/2024 02:35, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Here the error happens while trying to set the attribute. Shell equivalent is setfattr -n system.nfs4_acl -v '\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\26\1\247\0\0\0\6OWNER@\0\0\0\0\0' /tmp/x Shell does not interpret backslashes in single (and double) quotes.

Re: usb => serial port converter

On 08/07/2024 22:46, Lee wrote: On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 8:51 PM Andy Smith wrote: In my experience USB serial gadgets on Linux tend to just work or will never work. It worked this time! Other than plugging it into a windows machine that had the proper drivers first, I don't know what changed.

Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection

On 08/07/2024 04:42, Lee wrote: On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 11:02 AM Max Nikulin wrote: On 01/07/2024 13:57, Lee wrote: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842292 [...] Is libnss built with logging support ABI compatible with the variant in Debian repositories? (Or can

Re: small font

On 06/07/2024 01:01, Van Snyder wrote: I'm not able to read this message. I do not think you will manage to achieve anything on this way. The person has clearly expressed that their are not going to follow recommendations concerning message format and do not care if messages cause trouble

Re: Debian 11 and IPv4 static IP address

On 06/07/2024 08:16, David Christensen wrote: I can find no statement in The Debian Administrator's Handbook regarding disabling DHCP when using a static IP: [...] https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration?action=info The following sentence: "Make sure to disable all DHCP services, e.g.

Re: Results of Testmail_1-3

On 05/07/2024 04:27, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 4 Jul 2024 22:12 +0200, from Hans: Weired thing at all. This "testing" of yours, so far, involves about two dozen emails, each of which sent to about 3000 people. 1. Do not send "test"

small font (was: Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF)

I am in doubts what is more rude: On 04/07/2024 04:02, Richard wrote: Please stop using such a dinky font. There are plenty of old farts trying to read this list. - writing this before an attempt to hijack the thread using an already discussed question, Tell that to your mail

Re: Creating PDF/A from LaTeX source and from existing PDF

On 04/07/2024 04:49, Greg Marks wrote: $gs -dQUIET -dUseCIEColor -sProcessColorModel=DeviceCMYK -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dPDFACompatibilityPolicy=1 -dCompressFonts=true -dSubsetFonts=true -sFONTPATH=/usr/share/fonts/ -o new.pdf old.pdf [...] The object number and generation number shall be

Re: timeout for iptables

On 02/07/2024 19:28, Dan Ritter wrote: iptables (which are currently implemented in nftables) don't have a native timeout; nft sets have the timeout option. Isn't it to specify interval of time to remove elements?

Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection

On 01/07/2024 13:57, Lee wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 11:30 AM Max Nikulin wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:13 PM Lee wrote: set SSLKEYLOGFILE=C:\Users\Lee\AppData\Local\Temp\FF-SSLkeys.txt start C:\"Program Files\Firefox\Firefox.exe" This looks like the Debian bug repor

Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection

On 30/06/2024 12:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:13 PM Lee wrote: set SSLKEYLOGFILE=C:\Users\Lee\AppData\Local\Temp\FF-SSLkeys.txt start C:\"Program Files\Firefox\Firefox.exe" [...] Browsers do not support the passive capture/replay that OP wants. Lee, may you, please,

Re: Browser traffic interception/inspection

On 30/06/2024 03:45, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:13 PM Lee wrote: [...] Debian firefox does NOT allow one to do TLS intercept - ie. this does not work: C:\UTIL>cat firefox-tlsdecode.bat set SSLKEYLOGFILE=C:\Users\Lee\AppData\Local\Temp\FF-SSLkeys.txt start C:\"Program

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On 29/06/2024 20:07, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-29 12:34, Max Nikulin wrote: To manipulate with HTML it is better to write a script in some programming language, e.g. for python there are lxml etree and BeautifulSoup packages. This way it is easier to maintain valid document structure

Re: Need help with narroely focused use case of Emacs

On 29/06/2024 11:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Do M-x (hold Meta, most of the time your Alt key, then "x"). You get a command for a prompt. Enter "query-replace-regexp" And to get help for this function C-h f query-replace-regexp RET To open user manual switch to the help buffer and

Re: How to use /etc/adjtime

On 29/06/2024 01:49, Stefan Monnier wrote: But note that when we wake up ntpsec is already running It should be possible to stop the NTP daemon on suspend (or hibernate) and start it on resume. I think, what you are truing to achieve is doable. I do not agree with Greg. The question is

Re: About dash as sh

On 27/06/2024 01:16, Ilya Kazakevich wrote: My intention was to understand if decisions about dash are still valid, not to tell Debian to switch back to bash of course. I am almost sure there are lengthy threads on Ubuntu and Debian mailing lists. Perhaps summaries are deeply buried. I was

Re: ePub or mobi from LaTeX or PDF? (was PDF editors)

On 28/06/2024 01:38, Van Snyder wrote: So, back to trying to find a competent PDF -to- ePub or PDF -to- mobi converter (I haven't yet tried texmate to create a mobi or ePub from the LaTeX). If you seek a solution that allows to get result in a single click then the following would not help.

Australia/Eucla timezone abbreviation (was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file)

On 25/06/2024 19:25, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: Here's another test: hobbit:~$ TZ=Australia/Eucla printf '%(%z %Z)T\n' -1 +0845 +0845 That seems like a bug. I'd have expected: +0845 ACWST It was an intentional change, "+0845" is the abbreviation. That time it

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons [Solved]

On 23/06/2024 03:16, Pranjal Singh wrote: although not having your data out there is better IMHO Notice that firefox has "Always use private browsing mode" setting exposed to UI.

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 19/06/2024 16:27, Julien Petit wrote: Does it have some logic to avoid descending into bind mounts? Maybe I am wrong with my expectation that it does not use anything besides st_dev from stat result. It may be promising case to demonstrate the issue in a way independent of systemd and

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 21/06/2024 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: "the system's time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", and others disagree  What term is

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: "the system's time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", and others disagree  What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting stored as the /etc/localtime symlink? localtime(5) On 19/06/2024 11:37,

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives.

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On 21/06/2024 00:26, Pranjal Singh wrote: What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Exec=firefox -private-window %u I also created a desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, but that too didn't work. You may file a bug (if it does not exist

Re: dictd?

On 20/06/2024 00:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: In my system mode bits on my home dir are `drwx--` so only my user have access to it. Well, yeah. That's not a default setting 0700 is the current default. See

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On 20/06/2024 02:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Servers in data centers don't move around, they just sit there :-) So in my experience servers running anything non-windows have RTC set to local time. That's been on Red Hat/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. My experience with Ubuntu is that its installer

Re: Markup in mail messages

On 15/05/2024 09:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 14/06/2024 16:30, Julien Petit wrote: What processes are CPU hungry? [...] udisksd, This one does not use mount namespace for the obvious reason. However it tends to generate unnecessary activity. Perhaps it needs optimizations for your case. (fstrim) There were some bugs including

Re: system won't suspend automatically

On 13/06/2024 21:44, e...@gmx.us wrote: Well that's a no-go, because when you de-power the monitors, ddccontrol gives you no info about what sleep state they're in.  Reasonable, I guess. Perhaps there is a command to put the monitor in standby state instead of power off. Maybe it is possible

Re: Copy from xterm to text editor........ [solved]

On 13/06/2024 12:42, Charlie wrote: Didn't think the touchpad had a middle button. Don't know why? Middle click can be configured for touchpads as 2 or 3 fingers tap or as simultaneous press on both hardware buttons (if they exist), see the libinput(4) man page and

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 12/06/2024 17:02, Julien Petit wrote: for i in {1..14000} do echo "Mounting dir $i" mkdir "/home/test/directories/dir_$i" mkdir "/home/test/mounts/dir_$i" mount --bind -o rw "/home/test/directories/dir_$i" "/home/test/mounts/dir_$i" done After that, the "top" command will

Re: info vs. man

On 12/06/2024 01:00, Greg Wooledge wrote: On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the documentation, it's in GNU info pages. So you would need to type the command "info coreutils date" to get to it. And then you'd need to figure out

Re: system won't suspend automatically

On 11/06/2024 21:44, e...@gmx.us wrote: Does anyone know how to get the monitor state programmatically? ddccontrol However I am lost if you need to put your monitor to standby state (or to turn it off) or you expect suspend to RAM after some period of inactivity or when lid is closed. In

info vs. man (was: Re: date for week)

On 11/06/2024 06:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: Should you ever feel a need to read the longer version of the documentation, it's in GNU info pages. So you would need to type the command "info coreutils date" to get to it. And then you'd need to figure out the user interface of the "info" program,

Re: Looking for some pre-buying verification: will an external display actually work with a Lenovo Thinkpad P16 Gen 2?

On 06/06/2024 16:57, Lists wrote: As I don't do anything remotely graphically taxing I don't need a speedy GPU. More powerful GPU may mean better quality of local (offline) AI assistant. Perhaps it is too early to say that it is must have, but it seems changes are coming.

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

On 06/06/2024 17:41, Jan Krapivin wrote: Recently i have found out that i am unable to install new extensions with browser plugin "GNOME Shell integration". I have tried different browsers: Firefox stable If snap or flatpak sanboxing is involved then the following may be relevant:

Re: NVidia 340 video driver in Bookworm?

On 08/06/2024 03:29, Van Snyder wrote: Has anybody been able to install the NVidia 340.108 video driver in Debian 12? I am not aware of current state of affairs. Several years ago it was possible to rebuild the .deb package (that uses DKMS) with additional patches to make the code compatible

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

On 08/06/2024 00:48, Hans wrote: BUT - grub-efi-amd64-bin conflicts with grub-efi-amd64-bin-signed No it does not. I have both installed. I think, the latter needs .mod files provided by the former.

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

On 04/06/2024 02:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. You may configure local IMAP server (e.g. dovecot) to store your archive. It allows to avoid issues with

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

On 04/06/2024 07:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2024-05-31 19:05:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Do you see an attempt to send SIGTERM to mutt before timeout and SIGKILL? Unfortunately, there was no information from systemd. Some daemons log a received SIGTERM, but mutt isn't a daemon

Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...

On 03/06/2024 23:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote: In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've tried. I'm particularly irritated with those that have no way to disable HTML rendering, and those

Re: Tbird and square brackets in subject field - was - Re: Parenthesis or square brackets and "was"

On 03/06/2024 00:19, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:16, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:09, Bret Busby wrote: On 3/6/24 01:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 6/1/24 23:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets

Parenthesis or square brackets and "was" (was: Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20240501))

On 02/06/2024 02:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you change subject or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your email accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. For example: New question [WAS Old topic] Are square brackets intentional here? E.g. thunderbird strips

Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

On 01/06/2024 16:42, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5 (I wonder what the string "Debian-5" may mean. The Debian 12 machine has debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.2p1 Debian-2+deb12u2 So "-5" is not

Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

On 01/06/2024 01:52, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Offering public key:/home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... [...] The Debian 12 ssh client is obviously willing to try ssh-rsa. My reading of /usr/share/doc/openssh-client/NEWS.Debian.gz is that ssh-rsa means SHA1 while clients offers

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

On 31/05/2024 15:10, Vincent Lefevre wrote: https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/999 I'm wondering whether there could be a same cause. I can imagine that mutt may start a GUI handler for some attachment and that application uses XDG desktop portal. However I would expect

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

On 30/05/2024 23:19, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Have you tried to send SIGTERM to mutt? I didn't. AFAIK, systemd sends a SIGTERM to all the processes of the session: that's the Yes, SIGTERM is the default that systemd tries first. There are various kill modes, another signal may be configured

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

On 30/05/2024 16:22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Max Nikulin wrote: apt-patterns(7) Wow. What kind of programming language can have inspired the developers to define such a syntax ? https://blog.jak-linux.org/2019/08/15/apt-patterns/ "apt list" has some limitations in comparison to

Re: timeout in shutdown, mutt killed by SIGKILL

On 29/05/2024 07:44, Vincent Lefevre wrote: But I don't understand why there was a timeout. Does this mean that mutt didn't react to SIGTERM? Any reason? Have you tried to send SIGTERM to mutt? If it ignores this signal or the reaction is some prompt then you need to find another way to stop

Re: After upgrade, what do you do about "removed" and "obsolete" packages ?

On 29/05/2024 23:20, Thomas Schmitt wrote: How could i get a list of only the automatically installed obsolete packages ? (I still did not find any documentation about the '~c' or '~o' with "apt list".) apt-patterns(7) and dpkg(1). Apt can not distinguish packages installed by dpkg directly

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On 29/05/2024 00:51, Michael Grant wrote: The culprits that seemed to be causing the massive dependencies were libsasl2-2 and libsasl2-modules-db. Though not libsasl2-modules which i also have installed. With adjusted priorities these packages are not an issue for "apt upgrade". More serious

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On 29/05/2024 00:00, Michael Grant wrote: 4) dpkg -i libc6_whatever.deb libwhomever.deb 5) Repeat until it works. Apt is NOT built for downgrading. Agree. Ah I see, I did not realise that's what you meant by downgrading it, thanks. The thread is becoming excessively long. Have you

Re: "Repeaters", etc.

On 28/05/2024 06:08, Stefan Monnier wrote: I think it's called a "wireless bridge". Any device with a wifi card and (at least) an ethernet port can do that. Features like MAC VLAN may be unavailable with *any* device. Some vendors offer it, but compatibility may be an issue in the case of

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On 28/05/2024 01:02, Stefan Monnier wrote: But that's not the whole story of what `-t` does since the above does not explain why his attempt to use `-t` to downgrade some packages resulted in `apt` saying " is already the newest version". My guess is that -t increases priority of the specified

Re: moving some packages back to bookworm stable

On 27/05/2024 21:28, Michael Grant wrote: What I want to do is get the system back to just using the packages from stable rather than testing. I have never tried the following, so it is better to test it in a virtual machine or inside a container. I would try to set priority of bookworm

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