Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to optical discs

2024-01-25 Thread Anders Andersson
. It knows exactly every little thing that changed to your files since last time you backed it up, without having to scan everything. Even if you manually try to fake the datestamps etc. Finding that information is more or less instant, making backups easy.

Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to optical discs

2024-01-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
the previous last disc to the then-current time. I use my own software for making incremental multi-volume backups, based on file timestamps (m and c), inode numbers, and content checksums. http://scdbackup.webframe.org/main_eng.html http://scdbackup.webframe.org/examples.html#incremental

Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to optical discs

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 20:30, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:27:51 -0800 David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a SOHO file server with ~1 TB of data. I would like archive the data by burning it to a series of optical discs organized by time (e.g. mtime). I expect to periodically

Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to opticaldiscs

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 19:44, gene heskett wrote: On 1/22/24 21:28, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a SOHO file server with ~1 TB of data.  I would like archive the data by burning it to a series of optical discs organized by time (e.g. mtime).  I expect to periodically burn additional

Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to optical discs

2024-01-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:27:51 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have a SOHO file server with ~1 TB of data. I would like archive > the data by burning it to a series of optical discs organized by time > (e.g. mtime). I expect to periodically burn additional discs in the >

Re: Looking for archive management system for backups burned to opticaldiscs

2024-01-22 Thread gene heskett
On 1/22/24 21:28, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a SOHO file server with ~1 TB of data.  I would like archive the data by burning it to a series of optical discs organized by time (e.g. mtime).  I expect to periodically burn additional discs in the future, each covering a span

Looking for archive management system for backups burned to optical discs

2024-01-22 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a SOHO file server with ~1 TB of data. I would like archive the data by burning it to a series of optical discs organized by time (e.g. mtime). I expect to periodically burn additional discs in the future, each covering a span of time from the previous last disc to the

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 18 Apr 2022 at 16:06:48 (-0400), Default User wrote: > BTW, I think I have narrowed the previous restore problem down to what I > believe is a "buggy" early UEFI implementation on my computer (circa 2014). > Irrelevant now; I have re-installed with BIOS (not UEFI) booting and MBR > (not

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Apr 2022 at 07:19:58 (+0200), DdB wrote: > So i came up with the idea to create a sort of inventory using a sparse > copy of empty files only (using mkdir, truncate + touch). The space > requirements are affordable (like 2.3M for an inventory representing > 3.5T of data). The effect

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-18 Thread DdB
Hello, Am 11.04.2022 um 04:58 schrieb Default User: > So . . .   what IS the correct way to make "backups of backups"? > I don't know that for sure, but at first glance, i dont understand the complexity of your setup either. Seems to by quite elaborate, which is certainly su

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 11/4/22 10:58, Default User wrote: So . . .   what IS the correct way to make "backups of backups"? Sorry to take so long to respond. I am traveling and have only short periods that I can spend on non-pressing matters. To answer your question: the method that gets you the

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/22 13:06, Default User wrote: Finally, fun fact: Many years ago, at a local Linux user group meeting, Sun Microsystems put on a demonstration of their ZFS filesystem. To prove how robust it was, they pulled the power cord out of the wall socket on a running desktop computer. Then they

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-18 Thread Default User
> >> #!/bin/sh > >> sudo rsync -aAXHxvv --delete --info=progress2,stats2,name2 > >> /media/default/MSD1/ /media/default/MSD2/ > >> > >> > >> Use a version control system for system administration. Create a > >> project for every machine.

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-14 Thread David Christensen
a version control system for system administration. Create a project for every machine. Check in system configuration files, scripts, partition table backups, encryption header backups, RAID header backups, etc.. Maintain a plain text log file with notes of what you did (e.g. console sessions), when

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-13 Thread Default User
gt; >> > >> No problem, I say. I will just use Timeshift to restore from its backup > of > >> a few hours earlier. > >> > >> But that did not work, even after deleting the extra directory, and > trying > >> restores from multiple Timeshift backups. >

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-13 Thread David Christensen
of a few hours earlier. But that did not work, even after deleting the extra directory, and trying restores from multiple Timeshift backups. Anyway, I never could fix the problem. But I did take it as an opportunity to "start over". I put in a new(er) SSD, and did a fresh install,

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-13 Thread Default User
drive to use as a backup device, labeled >> MSD1. >> >>> - another identical usb hard drive, labeled MSD2, to use as a copy of >> the >> >>> backups on MSD1. >> >>> - the computer and all storage devices are formatted ext4, not >> encrypted.

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-11 Thread David Christensen
, labeled MSD1. - another identical usb hard drive, labeled MSD2, to use as a copy of the backups on MSD1. - the computer and all storage devices are formatted ext4, not encrypted. - two old Clonezilla disk images from when I installed Debian 11 last year (probably irrelevant). - Timeshift to daily

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-10 Thread tomas
as a backup device, labeled MSD1. > > - another identical usb hard drive, labeled MSD2, to use as a copy of the > > backups on MSD1. > > - the computer and all storage devices are formatted ext4, not encrypted. > > - two old Clonezilla disk images from when I installed Debian 11 last

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-10 Thread David Christensen
On 4/10/22 19:58, Default User wrote: Hello! My setup: - single home x86-64 computer running Debian 11 Stable, up to date. - one 4-Tb external usb hard drive to use as a backup device, labeled MSD1. - another identical usb hard drive, labeled MSD2, to use as a copy of the backups on MSD1

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-10 Thread Default User
On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:13 PM David wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 12:59, Default User > wrote: > > > Then I try to use rsync to make an identical copy of backup device MSD1 > on an absolutely identical 4-Tb external usb hard drive, > > labeled MSD2, using this command: > > > > sudo rsync

Re: backing up backups

2022-04-10 Thread David
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 12:59, Default User wrote: > Then I try to use rsync to make an identical copy of backup device MSD1 on an > absolutely identical 4-Tb external usb hard drive, > labeled MSD2, using this command: > > sudo rsync -aAXHxvv --delete --info=progress2,stats2,name2 >

backing up backups

2022-04-10 Thread Default User
Hello! My setup: - single home x86-64 computer running Debian 11 Stable, up to date. - one 4-Tb external usb hard drive to use as a backup device, labeled MSD1. - another identical usb hard drive, labeled MSD2, to use as a copy of the backups on MSD1. - the computer and all storage devices

Re: backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-13 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote: > > mick crane wrote: > > > > > This looks like good advice, thanks Dan and all. > One thing I wonder about if I reboot and change boot order to start windows > is if I might create some confusion on the network as pfsense PC does DHCP

Re: backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-13 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote: mick crane wrote: might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ? I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs another old buster lenovo doing email another Buster PC I do bits of

backups Was: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Dan Ritter
ftp or rsync-over-ssh, that would be much better. Or you can plug an external USB disk into the Windows machine and ask it to store the backups there directly. -dsr-

KopiaUI backups

2020-10-08 Thread Peter Ehlert
I am a long time user of LuckyBackup, and am very satisfied. experimenting with Clear Linux OS system, I have been looking for a backup solution LuckyBackup is not readily available. Clear OS provides KopiaUI ...reading the Kopia webpage and YouTube tutorial the KopiaUI app seems to be

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:33:34AM +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 20/08/2020 10:08, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-08-13 01:31, David Christensen wrote: Without knowing anything about your resources, needs, expectations, "consistent backup plan", etc., and given the choices ext2, ext3,

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-19 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 20/08/2020 10:08, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-08-13 01:31, David Christensen wrote: Without knowing anything about your resources, needs, expectations, "consistent backup plan", etc., and given the choices ext2, ext3, or ext4 for an external USB drive presumably to store backup

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-19 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-08-13 01:31, David Christensen wrote: On 8/12/20 5:14 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an external USB drive.  I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I think I want to stay in the ext2/3/4 family, and

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 14 aug 20, 10:31:51, David Wright wrote: > > I'm dubious whether I shall ever start using these filesystems. > I create multiple backups on ext4 filesystems on LUKS, and keep > MD5 digests of their contents. Would that qualify as your > "additional tools"

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-14 Thread David Wright
nt (and don't want to learn) either of them at this point -- I don't see > > much need for a backup filesystem.) > > As has been stated already, both btrfs and ZFS have built-in bitrot > protections that are very useful for backups and archives. To achieve > the same level of protection

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-14 Thread tomas
up (d) unmount When you discover your media is corrupt/broken, yon restart with a new medium. If you need any redundancy, you keep several backups in parallel (which you keep physically separate, so your house burning down doesn't catch all of them at once). Adjust accordingly for over-the

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:32:13PM +, ghe2001 wrote: Two for sure and put them in a RAID1 -- formatted ext4. And watch that mdstat. And a third or fourth to see if you can get ZFS going. For playing around with tech, sure: for part of a mundane, reliable backup strategy for the OP, and as

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
FS or BTRFS for my "system" filesystems, but don't see > any > point (and don't want to learn) either of them at this point -- I don't see > much need for a backup filesystem.) As has been stated already, both btrfs and ZFS have built-in bitrot protections that are very useful

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-08-13 01:31, David Christensen wrote: > Migrating to ZFS was non-trivial, and I am still wresting with > disaster preparedness. I should have qualified that -- when I used ZFS only as a volume manager and file system, it was not much harder than md and ext4. You could put a GPT

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread Tom Dial
On 8/13/20 13:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, August 13, 2020 01:45:59 PM Tom Dial wrote: >> Debian ZFS root (and boot) is not *that* hard; see the instructions at >> >> https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20B >> uster%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html >>

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 04:09:46 PM David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-08-13 12:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, August 13, 2020 01:45:59 PM Tom Dial wrote: > >> I would recommend installing from buster-backports to get the current > >> openzfs release which includes

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:50 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > D. R. Evans wrote: > > > Greg Wooledge wrote on 8/13/20 2:29 PM: > > > > > The simplest answer would be to use ext4. > > > > I concur, given the OP's use

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread Dan Ritter
D. R. Evans wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote on 8/13/20 2:29 PM: > > > > > The simplest answer would be to use ext4. > > > > I concur, given the OP's use case. And I speak as someone who raves about ZFS > at every reasonable opportunity :-) Also concur. But by all means buy a spare drive and

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread D. R. Evans
Greg Wooledge wrote on 8/13/20 2:29 PM: > > The simplest answer would be to use ext4. > I concur, given the OP's use case. And I speak as someone who raves about ZFS at every reasonable opportunity :-) Doc -- Web: http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 01:09:46PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-08-13 12:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > * Most of my backup will be done from a Wheezy system -- can I install > > ZFS > > on Wheezy? > > I do not see any ZFS packages for Wheezy: > > The simplest answer would

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-08-13 12:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, August 13, 2020 01:45:59 PM Tom Dial wrote: Debian ZFS root (and boot) is not *that* hard; see the instructions at https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20B uster%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html They

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, August 13, 2020 01:45:59 PM Tom Dial wrote: > Debian ZFS root (and boot) is not *that* hard; see the instructions at > > https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/Debian%20B > uster%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html > > They certainly are not harder than installing early

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread local10
any > good reason to use anything beyond ext2? > I've been using an external USB drive for backups for years (more specifically, a regular HDD in a USB enclosure), it works reasonably well. I use ext4. ext2 is more prone to lose stuff and become corrupted if your PC shuts down suddenly a

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread Tom Dial
with ZFS on root; > STFW for details.)  There is a 'contrib' ZFS kernel package available > that can be installed on a working Debian system.  This makes it > possible to use ZFS for most everything except boot and root.  ZFS is > mature and reliable.  I use ZFS for FreeBSD system disks, file

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 09:15:21PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 20:14:03 -0400 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up > > to an external USB drive. I'm wondering about a reasonable > > filesystem to use, I

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:55:35PM +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 13/08/2020 12:14, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an > >external USB drive. I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I > >think I want to stay

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-13 Thread David Christensen
s, file server live data, backups, archives, and images. Migrating to ZFS was non-trivial, and I am still wresting with disaster preparedness. David

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-12 Thread Charles Curley
'm wondering if there is any good reason to use anything beyond ext2? I use my external USB drives for off-site backup, so I use ext4 on top of an encrypted partition. http://charlescurley.com/blog/index.html Start with http://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/ and work your way for

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 8/12/2020 7:14 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an external USB drive. I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I think I want to stay in the ext2/3/4 family, and I'm wondering if there is any good reason to use

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
backups are pigz-compressed tar archives, encrypted with gpg symmetric encryption, with a "pigz -0" outer wrapper to add a 32-bit checksum wrapper for convenient verification with "gzip -tv" or similar without requiring decryption. Archives are written to both external local

Re: Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-12 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 13/8/20 10:14 am, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an external USB drive. I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I think I want to stay in the ext2/3/4 family, and I'm wondering if there is any good reason to use

Recommendation for filesystem for USB external drive for backups

2020-08-12 Thread rhkramer
I'm getting closer to setting up a consistent backup plan, backing up to an external USB drive. I'm wondering about a reasonable filesystem to use, I think I want to stay in the ext2/3/4 family, and I'm wondering if there is any good reason to use anything beyond ext2? (Some day I'll try ZFS

Re: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-04-04 Thread Benoit B
dump https://axkibe.github.io/lsyncd/manual/config/layer2/ https://packages.debian.org/stretch/lsyncd J'utilise ça pour des backups de mon système de fichier, ça m'étonnerait qu'il ne soit pas utilisable au moins pour une partie des opérations de 1 à 4. @+ -- Benoit Le 23 mars 2018 à 16:49

Re: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-27 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 23/03/18 à 20:23, Eric Degenetais a écrit : ED> Le 23 mars 2018 21:18, a écrit : ED> ED> > J'ai trouvé encore plus simple ! ED> > Avec la doc envoyé par Timoté Brusson, je suis retombé sur un truc ED> > "pré-fait" est-ce viable ? (

RE: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread Eric Degenetais
VANDENDAELEN Web : www.vandendaelen.com -Message d'origine- De : Pierre L. <pet...@miosweb.mooo.com> Envoyé : vendredi 23 mars 2018 20:32 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage Le 23/03/2018 à 16:49, vandendaelencle

RE: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread vandendaelenclement
e qu'était un cron et comment ce bidule fonctionne ! :D NB : Oui, c'est bien Raspbian, my bad. Clément VANDENDAELEN Web : www.vandendaelen.com -Message d'origine- De : Pierre L. <pet...@miosweb.mooo.com> Envoyé : vendredi 23 mars 2018 20:32 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Obj

Re: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread Pierre L.
Le 23/03/2018 à 16:49, vandendaelenclem...@gmail.com a écrit : > > Bonjour à tous, > > Je possède un petit Rasberry sur lequel je me suis amusé à créer une > application web « locale ». Dans un souci de prévoir à l’imprévu, > j’aimerais effectuer une backup automatique des bases de données >

RE: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread vandendaelenclement
Merci pour vos réponses, je vais essayer ça ! Bonne soirée ! Clément VANDENDAELEN Web : www.vandendaelen.com -Message d'origine- De : "Raphaël" POITEVIN <raphael.poite...@gmail.com> Envoyé : vendredi 23 mars 2018 17:31 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Obj

Re: Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bonjour, writes: > j’aimerais effectuer une backup automatique des bases de données > stocké dans ce dernier vers une clef USB (par exemple). Un script qui lance des rsync appelé par un cron. J’ai fait un truc de ce style : #!/bin/bash # Backup des données #

Backups automatiques d'une base de donnée vers un périphérique de stockage

2018-03-23 Thread vandendaelenclement
Bonjour à tous, Je possède un petit Rasberry sur lequel je me suis amusé à créer une application web « locale ». Dans un souci de prévoir à l’imprévu, j’aimerais effectuer une backup automatique des bases de données stocké dans ce dernier vers une clef USB (par exemple). Il va de soi que le RPI

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-09-17 Thread Kushal Kumaran
t; referencing the saying “make things as simple as possible but not more > simple”). > > I have been testing it with toy cases to have at least some experience > with it before using it for my real backups. > > Using a Git checkout of the latest release I get this warning: “Using a &

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-09-16 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:04:57 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-19 23:07 -0400 Celejar wrote: > >There's Borg, which apparently has good deduplication. I've just > >started using it, but it's a very sophisticated and quite popular piece >

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-22 Thread Celejar
kup program should do, which is to be a > repository on some other storage medium besides the day to day operating > cache, of the data you will need to recover and restore normal > operations should your main drive become unusable with no signs of ill > health until its falls over. That's not the onl

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
o Castelán Castro <marioxcc...@yandex.com> wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, > > > > including some manually selected important files of system > > > > configurat

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-21 Thread Celejar
lo. > > > > > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, > > > including some manually selected important files of system > > > configuration. I keep old backups to be more safe from the scenario > > > where I have deleted something imp

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-20 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
with toy cases to have at least some experience with it before using it for my real backups. Using a Git checkout of the latest release I get this warning: “Using a pure-python msgpack! This will result in lower performance.”. Yet I have the Debian package “python3-msgpack“. Do you know w

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-20 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
ool for my case. I do not need any highly sophisticated tools. As I noted in the first message, I only want to backup a personal computer to an USB drive. Since I must manually connect the USB drive to make the backups, there is no point in automatizing it with cron. Network backups are irreleva

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-20 Thread Glenn English
be. Amanda is a very well done collection of programs. It very efficiently does incremental backups to several types of media -- Gene goes to disk, I go to tape (takes forever, but there are several little boxes containing backups that are nowhere near a failure point). It backs up in tar (or dum

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 23:07:01 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:47:34 -0500 > > Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc...@yandex.com> wrote: > > Hello. > > > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, > > including some manu

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:47:34 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc...@yandex.com> wrote: > Hello. > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including > some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep > old backups to be more s

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 23:53 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: >I use duplicity for exactly this scenario. See the wiki page[1] to get >started. > >1: https://wiki.debian.org/Duplicity Judging from a quick glance at that project's homepage in GNU Savannah, this seem indeed to be the

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-18 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-08-17, Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc...@yandex.com> wrote: > Hello. > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including > some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep > old backups to be more safe from the scenario

Debian-user conventions [was: [...] incremental backups?]

2017-08-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 07:33:53PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 17/08/17 15:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > [...] And yes, there's a wiki entry encouraging "in-line" quoting [1]. > > Ah, I see. I rarely check the Debian Wiki

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 17/08/17 15:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 03:24:35PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > [...] > > But in general, folks here tend to be tolerant. And yes, there's a > wiki entry encouraging "in-line" quoting [1]. Ah, I see. I rarely check the Debian Wiki because it

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 17/08/17 13:31, Nicolas George wrote: > [[elided]] > > No, it is the other way around: we rsync the data to a directory stored > on a btrfs filesystem, and then we make a snapshot of that directory. > With btrfs's CoW, only the parts of the files that have changed use > space. Thanks for the

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 03:24:35PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 17/08/17 13:31, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > > Please remember not to top-post. > > Both bottom posting and top posting each have their own disadvantages. The general

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Thanks for your answer. Let me know if I understood your approach correctly. You have a directory in a btrfs filesystem that is the target of your backups. When you make a backup, you take a brtfs snapshot of this directory and *then* use rsync. Is this correct? Regards. On 17/08/17 12:50

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 17/08/17 12:10, Fungi4All wrote: > [[elided]] > Stay with rsync Why? Isn't there a more efficient alternative? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Hello. Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep old backups to be more safe from the scenario where I have deleted something important, I make a backup, and I only notice the deletion afterwards

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 30 thermidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Let me know if I understood your approach correctly. You have a > directory in a btrfs filesystem that is the target of your backups. When > you make a backup, you take a brtfs snapshot of this directory and > *the

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 30 thermidor, an CCXXV, Mario Castelán Castro a écrit : > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including > some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep > old backups to be more safe from the scenario where I have deleted &g

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-17 Thread Fungi4All
> From: marioxcc...@yandex.com > To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> > > Hello. > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including > some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep > old backups to be more

Fwd: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups

2017-01-28 Thread Juan Lavieri
: Some Debian package upgrades are corrupting rsync "quick check" backups Resent-Date:Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:17:06 + (UTC) Resent-From:debian-secur...@lists.debian.org Fecha: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:11:41 +1300 De: Adam Warner <li...@consulting.net.nz> Para

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-11 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Celejar On 09/09/16 18:18, Celejar wrote: My laptop has 802.11 a/b/g WiFi and Fast Ethernet. Wireless data transfers are slow (~50 Mbps). Wired is twice as fast (100 Mbps); still slow. Newer WiFi (n, ac) should be faster, but only the newest WiFi hardware can match or

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-11 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, deloptes. On 09/09/16 19:06, deloptes wrote: >> Still, 20-24 Mbps is more than 10 Mpbs I was seeing with rsync. There >> could be a bottleneck somewhere? > In my case it was the IO on the disk - I couldn't do more than 12Mbps even > on wired connection, because I have encrypted disk ... it

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 10:53:20 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:40:26 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 10 September 2016 10:26:15 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 08:41:53 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > It's in megabytes per

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread David Christensen
On 09/10/2016 07:23 PM, Celejar wrote: > FTR: there seem to be more typos / here. The actual figure should be > 11034157.6344 bits/second. Yes, let's whip those typos out of this dead horse some more: On 09/09/2016 08:36 PM, David Christensen wrote: > Benchmarking using WiFi (48 Mb/s): > >

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 20:43:44 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 09/09/2016 12:43 PM, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > On 09/08/16 22:57, David Christensen wrote: > >> My laptop has 802.11 a/b/g WiFi and Fast Ethernet. Wireless data > >> transfers are slow (~50 Mbps). Wired

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 20:36:39 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:57:02 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> My laptop has 802.11 a/b/g WiFi and Fast Ethernet.

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 September 2016 10:53:20 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:40:26 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 10 September 2016 10:26:15 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 08:41:53 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > It's in megabytes per

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread David Christensen
On 09/10/2016 07:53 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:40:26 AM Gene Heskett wrote: >> You make an assumption many folks do, but theres a start bit and a stop >> bit so the math is more like 1000/10=100 Mb/s. > > > Well, 1000/8 is still 125 ;-) but I wouldn't have

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:40:26 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 10 September 2016 10:26:15 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 08:41:53 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > It's in megabytes per second, so assume 1000/8 = 250 MB/s is the > > > bandwidth of a gigabit

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 10 September 2016 10:26:15 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, September 10, 2016 08:41:53 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > It's in megabytes per second, so assume 1000/8 = 250 MB/s is the > > bandwidth of a gigabit ethernet NIC. > > Sorry, I tend to pick at nits, but, for the record,

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 08:41:53 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > It's in megabytes per second, so assume 1000/8 = 250 MB/s is the > bandwidth of a gigabit ethernet NIC. Sorry, I tend to pick at nits, but, for the record, 1000/8 is 125 Mb/s. It doesn't (really) change your conclusions. regards,

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 01:22:45AM -0400, Neal P. Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 23:14:30 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > Good eye! I was going to say it's not possible to get 110Mb/s over 802.11g; > 40-50 is closer tothe best I get. And 193Mb/s over 100Mb/s

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-10 Thread David Christensen
On 09/09/2016 09:14 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 09 Sep 2016 at 20:36:39 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: >> So, 1048576900 bytes * 8 bits / byte / 76.024 seconds > ↑ > > What's this 9? A typographical error. 104857600 bytes * 8 bits/byte / 76.024 seconds = 11034158

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-09 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 23:14:30 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 09 Sep 2016 at 20:36:39 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Celejar wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:57:02 -0700 > > > David Christensen wrote: > > >

Re: Debian server for backups of Windows clients

2016-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Fri 09 Sep 2016 at 20:36:39 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 09/09/2016 11:51 AM, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 18:57:02 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> My laptop has 802.11 a/b/g WiFi and Fast Ethernet. Wireless data > >>

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