RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-09-03 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:12 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue Seems all is OK thank you al for your help Serge - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-09-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:18 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue Hi all I have som SPF issues It was working fine some times back I use Mixrosoft dns I have (same as parent)Text v=spf1 mx ip4:217.64.107.106 -all mail

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-09-01 Thread Pete McNeil
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com S Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:41 PM S Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue What is the issue? What error message? Was it bounced mail? What did the NDR say? I could be a recipient trying to forward mail to another server, or an end-user trying to send

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-09-01 Thread Pete McNeil
(unless they have cached information). S - Original Message - S From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] S To: declude.junkmail@declude.com S Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:41 PM S Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue What is the issue? What error message? Was it bounced mail

Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-09-01 Thread Sanford Whiteman
The mx should not be naked. Actually, naked mx mechanism is fine. So is -all (deny-all being preferable to anything looser). The cefib.com TXT record is a valid SPF record. The problem is likely to be an NXDOMAIN received by DNSStuff, perhaps due to routing problems. Other remote

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-08-31 Thread Serge
Hi all I have som SPF issues It was working fine some times back I use Mixrosoft dns I have (same as parent)Text v=spf1 mx ip4:217.64.107.106 -all mailText v=spf1 mx ip4:217.64.107.106 -all What is wrong with above ? TIA --- This E-mail came from the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Issue

2008-08-31 Thread Sanford Whiteman
I have som SPF issues What issues? Did you validate your TXT record at openspf? --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF (Fail or Pass)

2007-09-07 Thread Kevin Stanford
I am not really sure how to set this up but I would like to make sure that if a domain has an spf record that it is checked and if it is not legit it is immediately marked as spam. Also, is it possible to do this on my domain as I get a lot of spoofed email to my domain using my domain as a return

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF (Fail or Pass)

2007-09-07 Thread Darin Cox
, 2007 9:05 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF (Fail or Pass) I am not really sure how to set this up but I would like to make sure that if a domain has an spf record that it is checked and if it is not legit it is immediately marked as spam. Also, is it possible to do this on my domain as I get a lot

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF in Imail

2006-10-26 Thread Mark Reimer
I was looking through my settings and noticed that SPF is enabled for Imails anti-spam but all other tests are disabled. I am using Declude junkmail so is there any reason to have SPF enabled for Imail? Mark Reimer IT System Admin American CareSource 972-308-6887 ---This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF in Imail

2006-10-26 Thread Andy Schmidt
934-9206 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark ReimerSent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 04:16 PMTo: Declude JunkMailSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF in Imail I was looking through my settings and noticed that SPF is enabled for Imails anti-spam but all other

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail

2006-08-21 Thread Darin Cox
Nope. Just Pass (Pass or Soft Fail), Fail (Hard Fail), or Unknown (no SPF record). Darin. - Original Message - From: David Dodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 11:01 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail I couldn't

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail

2006-08-21 Thread Dean Lawrence
), Fail (Hard Fail), or Unknown (no SPF record). Darin. - Original Message - From: David Dodell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 11:01 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail I couldn't find it in the Declude docs

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail

2006-08-21 Thread Darin Cox
, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail Darin, I don't believe that is correct. The SPFPASS will not be trigged on a soft fail, only if an email actually matches the SPF record, as the SPFFAIL will only be trigged if the email explicitly fails the SPF test. The UNKNOWN

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Hard vs Soft Fail

2006-08-20 Thread David Dodell
I couldn't find it in the Declude docs, but is there a test for SPF Hard vs Soft Fail? David --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude

2006-03-30 Thread Gary Steiner
I've seen all the talk for and against SPF on this list, and I've been trying to decide how much weight I want to give SPF. (I'm currently using Declude 3.0.6.4 and SmarterMail 2.6). I started playing around with SmarterMail's SPF tags by setting them to a low or zero weight just so I could

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude

2006-03-30 Thread Scott Fisher
] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude I've seen all the talk for and against SPF on this list, and I've been trying to decide how much weight I want to give SPF. (I'm currently using Declude 3.0.6.4 and SmarterMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude

2006-03-30 Thread Gary Steiner
: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude Many spammers have an SPF record. So the SPFPASS deserves no negative weight. I have SPFPASS set at zero Here's my settings: SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0 SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x 0 0 SPFFAIL spf fail x 50 0 - Original Message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude

2006-03-30 Thread Kevin Bilbee
] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:49 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude I assume the values I show are the default ones that came with Declude. However, that's not my issue. The values are meaningless

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude

2006-03-30 Thread Gary Steiner
@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF tests in Declude I assume the values I show are the default ones that came with Declude. However, that's not my issue. The values are meaningless if the test is not working. I'm not even sure that Delude is using these values, since I never

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
, March 07, 2006 6:37 PM To: Colbeck, Andrew Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - If you want to perservere and build your own forwarding system, what I found was that. . . Andrew, I like your workaround with the Program Alias. However, I think

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-08 Thread Nick Hayer
Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Matt wr

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-08 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Sandy Sanford Whiteman wrote: Andrew, I like your workaround with the Program Alias. However, I think that instead, if people are willing to wait a few weeks to a month, I can find time to put out a full-fledged external test for Declude that does much the same thing,

Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Tyran Ormond
On 11:39 PM 3/6/2006 -0500, it would appear that Sanford Whiteman wrote: Sure it is, SPF is NOT an RFC and if the email follows RFC then it is legit. I'm afraid you have a rather exaggerated opinion of the relevance of RFCs, and of the concept of domain ownership. RFCs are

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Please don't assume that you have any idea how my policies are set. I'm not assuming: you've made some of them public. For example, you touted day-of-week and hour tests as effective gauges of spamminess. Note that I don't disagree at all with your conclusions about these tests. I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
D*.SMD file (which can be any filename) you can just call: smtp32.exe Qxxx.SMD and IMail will queue it up immediately. Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PMTo:

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Sanford Whiteman
If you want to perservere and build your own forwarding system, what I found was that. . . Andrew, I like your workaround with the Program Alias. However, I think that instead, if people are willing to wait a few weeks to a month, I can find time to put out a full-fledged external

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Matt
t call: smtp32.exe Qxxx.SMD and IMail will queue it up immediately. Ta-dah! Easy as world peace. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:13 PM To: Declude

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-07 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Back to SRS. SRS isn't just simply changing the Mail From address, it is a system that requires both the encoding and parsing of the Mail From addresses, and it requires both the sending and receiving MTA to be SRS aware. The following is from what is apparently the master SRS

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-06 Thread Dean Lawrence
Couldn't you get around this whole issue by just adding the forwarding server to the SPF record? Dean On 3/5/06, Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfectly legit email - my spf recs are perfect etc.No,it's*not*legit!Domainowners set SPF policies that dictate

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-06 Thread Tyran Ormond
On 08:54 PM 3/5/2006 -0500, it would appear that Sanford Whiteman wrote: Perfectly legit email - my spf recs are perfect etc. No, it's *not* legit! Sure it is, SPF is NOT an RFC and if the email follows RFC then it is legit. My users don't have the right to have this restriction completely

Re[3]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-06 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Sure it is, SPF is NOT an RFC and if the email follows RFC then it is legit. I'm afraid you have a rather exaggerated opinion of the relevance of RFCs, and of the concept of domain ownership. RFCs are meaningless when it comes to the acceptable use of your domain (which is protected by

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-05 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Perfectly legit email - my spf recs are perfect etc. No, it's *not* legit! Domain owners set SPF policies that dictate legitimacy. This is their right. SMTP server owners respect SPF policies. This is my obligation. If Adelphia sets a strict SPF policy, and SurfGlobal respects it,

[Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Email customers that forward through me are getting their email bounced because of the original sending domain's spf policy. I understand this delima is addressed with Sender Rewriting Scheme http://www.openspf.org/srs.html Does anyone have a solution to this w/Declude Imail? Thanks

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:40 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Email customers that forward through me are getting their email bounced because of the original sending

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Matt
I'm not aware of any mail server that supports the Sender Rewriting Scheme. It's certainly a fine idea, but the real issue is that the SPF implementation has issues with forwarded E-mail, and they are seeking to have mail servers correct their shortcoming. It may be a very long-time in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Nick Hayer
PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:40 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Email customers that forward through me are getting their email bounced because of the original sending domain's spf policy. I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Matt
Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:40 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Email customers that forward through me are getting their email bounced because of the original sending domain's spf policy. I understand this delima is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:40 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Email customers that forward through me are getting their email bounced

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - The problem is not anything I am doing - it with SPF itself. By design forwarded email will bounce if the receiving MTA is configed that way. Even if I whitelist the emails they will bounce... Let me explain - user

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Matt wrote: Real-world issues include working around bad implementation, such as surfglobal.net not configuring their server to reject messages that fail SPF. SRS is a work around - and I'm simply asking if anyone has implemented it on an Imail/Declude platform. Kindly stay on topic I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Hayer Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:27 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - The problem is not anything I am doing - it with SPF itself. By design forwarded email will bounce if the receiving MTA is configed that way. Even if I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread Matt
Someone could write a plug-in or Declude could be modified to handle this, or IMail could be modified to handle this (and then Declude would probably need to be updated to handle what IMail changed). Why implement a work around in a standards compliant platform in order to deal with a flawed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding -

2006-03-04 Thread george kulman
Hear hear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:36 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spf breaks email forwarding - Someone could write a plug

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\)
Quick question on the global.cfg file I upgraded to 3.0.5 yesterday. Working great so far. I want to add the SPFPASS and SPFFAIL tests.. what is the format ? I want to subtract 7 points for a pass, and add 7 points for a fail( if theyre too stupid to have an SPF by now ) I have this,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
of their IP address in SpamCop). Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:09 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format Quick

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread Scott Fisher
Also make sure you have at least version 3.0.5.20 Previous 3.0.5. versions had an error with SPF Original Message - From: IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread Kevin Bilbee
FisherSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:55 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format Also make sure you have at least version 3.0.5.20 Previous 3.0.5. versions had an error with SPF Original Message - From

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread John Doyle
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:55 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format Also make sure you have at least version 3.0.5.20

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread David Barker
: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format I have quick question re. 3.0 version of Declude. I installed both the .20 and the .21 version on a windows 2003 enterprise server with Imail 8.15 hf2 and discovered a memory leak. I've not heard back from Declude as to a fix. I'd like to go to 8.22

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format

2005-12-08 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
traditional RBL's. Try it today - http://www.invariantsystems.com - Original Message - From: IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF PASS/FAIL test format Quick

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
still unacceptable and reason enough for me to discard SPF completely. I think the discusson is missing the key point of SPF. Sure, this list is focused on INCOMING spam, and thus we restricting our discussions to SPFFAIL/SPFPASS and how to use it in Declude. However, that ignores what SPF is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
That's right on the money, Andy. I agree 100%. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Darin Cox
Excellent point, Andy. Not just detecting spoofing, but changing behavior to avoid future spoofing. Darin. - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Tyran Ormond
On 11:47 AM 9/8/2005 -0400, it would appear that Andy Schmidt wrote: still unacceptable and reason enough for me to discard SPF completely. I think the discusson is missing the key point of SPF. Sure, this list is focused on INCOMING spam, and thus we restricting our discussions to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Darin Cox
it's perfect, but it can be implemented in a useful fashion. Darin. - Original Message - From: Tyran Ormond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point On 11:47 AM 9/8/2005 -0400

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Matt
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point still unacceptable and reason enough for me to discard SPF completely

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point But isn't this utopian? The majority of situations have exceptions as they apply to SPF, and in a world where there are open relays on every corner, many servers without proper reverse DNS records, etc., would you really want

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point

2005-09-08 Thread Matt
PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 01:55 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point But isn't this utopian? The majority of situations have exceptions as they apply to SPF, and in a world where there are open

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF logs

2005-01-16 Thread R. Scott Perry
Just noticed that the SPF logs that were stored in C:\ are gone. Did they get moved or where they done away with? They were done away with. They were part of the beta testing of SPF. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF logs

2005-01-15 Thread Darin Cox
Repost. - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: SPF logs Just noticed that the SPF logs that were stored in C:\ are gone. Did they get moved or where they done away with? Darin. ---

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF logs

2005-01-14 Thread Darin Cox
Just noticed that the SPF logs that were stored in C:\ are gone. Did they get moved or where they done away with? Darin. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF uptake results in...

2005-01-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message ... a decline in the good guys making the MAILFROM some other domain, like the target addressee itself? I have a simple filter file called Spoof which triggers when an inbound mail hasa MAILFROM in my domain instead of theirs. Typical good-but-clueless senders included:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF uptake results in...

2005-01-12 Thread Matt
Title: Message I've seen comments that during Christmas '02, many e-card sites would forge, but by '03 most had change their methods, and I didn't personally see any e-card issues this year. I believe that the same thing has been happening elsewhere. Another big issue was the

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF uptake results in...

2005-01-12 Thread Sanford Whiteman
. . . I haven't yet seen whether or not CDO allows for this, and if it doesn't, it predisposes the developer to forge. FYI, CDO (CDOSYS) allows for the requisite separate values. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-25 Thread Markus Gufler
. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Friday, December 24, 2004 3:24 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success To enter SPF settings in a majority DNS server out there, especially those

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Markus Gufler
: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Middling success, but definitely beneficial...the biggest benefit we've seen is in blocking forged spam from domains we serve. By implementing SPF for those domains, we can fail email that doesn't come from our servers. So, forging spam that uses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Darin Cox
name change where you still want the website traffic, but no email from it anymore. Darin. - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 4:34 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success As many Admin's who

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Darin Cox
Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Certainly. We have a few customers that use other mail servers, so for those we set the basic SPF record that says we don't know where

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Matt
m: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Certainly. We have a few customers that use other mail servers, so for those we set the basic SPF record that says we don't know wh

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; I have added a couple of filters that work quite well using SPF. Although by itself it does not do much but as a combination it is working for us. Towards the end of the filters I have a couple of combo filters that I called [Elevate.?] where ? is the category of elevate weight. The

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Hi; I have added a couple of filters that work quite well using SPF. Although by itself it does not do much but as a combination it is working for us. Towards the end of the filters I have a couple of combo

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-23 Thread Danny
I'm setting up SPF. Just wondering what success SPF has had with marking spam for anyone? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success

2004-12-23 Thread Darin Cox
is easily caught. Darin. - Original Message - From: Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success I'm setting up SPF. Just wondering what success SPF has had with marking spam for anyone

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record

2004-12-10 Thread Darin Cox
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record Hello, Perhaps this is the wrong place to ask. If so, please let me know. We have Imail/Declude installed on a private network, and is accessed through a firewall that has our public address. I have put

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record

2004-12-10 Thread Agid, Corby
1:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record I would either put the private IP in the SPF record, use WHITELIST AUTH to whitelist users who authenticate with the SMTP server, or counterbalance the SPF test failure weight with an IP whitelist. Darin

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record

2004-12-10 Thread Agid, Corby
for the internal Exchange box. Thanks again -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record We have Imail/Declude installed

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF record

2004-12-10 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: SPF record Hello, Perhaps this is the wrong place to ask. If so, please let me know. We have Imail/Declude installed on a private network, and is accessed through a firewall that has our public address. I have put an SPF record on our public DNS server. As far as I can tell, it's

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF record

2004-12-10 Thread Brad Morgan
We have Imail/Declude installed on a private network, and is accessed through a firewall that has our public address. I have put an SPF record on our public DNS server. As far as I can tell, it's correct and working as it should EXCEPT when one user of our domain sends mail to another

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF question

2004-10-22 Thread Imail Admin
Thanks, Scott. Ben - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF question I have a question about setting up the SPF string. If I use this string: v=spf1 a mx

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF question

2004-10-21 Thread Imail Admin
Hi, I have a question about setting up the SPF string. If I use this string: v=spf1 a mx a:bcw5, a:bcw6 -all as a text record in our domain (bcwebhost.net), then the SPF test checks the sending IP and tries to match it against either bcw5.bcwebhost.net or bcw6.bcwebhost.net. The -all option

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF question

2004-10-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have a question about setting up the SPF string. If I use this string: v=spf1 a mx a:bcw5, a:bcw6 -all as a text record in our domain (bcwebhost.net), then the SPF test checks the sending IP and tries to match it against either bcw5.bcwebhost.net or bcw6.bcwebhost.net. The -all option says

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF HABEAS

2004-10-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
After reading this article on SPF I am wondering about the merits of SPF: http://securitypronews.com/news/securitynews/spn-45-2004090816PercentofSpammersAdoptSPFEmailAuthenticationScheme.html Is SPF going to be exploited to the point where is is of little value? That is good news -- that means

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF HABEAS

2004-10-05 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also is anyone using the WHITELIST HABEAS test? Are there any pros or cons to activating this test? Right now, it isn't of much benefit, since spammers started using it a while ago, and couldn't get caught. Even Habeas

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-10-01 Thread A. Clausen
- Original Message - From: Imail Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:47 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue I've been just begging for motivation to upgrade from 7.15 to 8.x, and so far, the only good reason I've found

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-30 Thread Imail Admin
and just work around the absence of WHITELIST AUTH. Ben Bednarz BC Web - Original Message - From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue No, the probem you are having is with your own

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread David Dresler
I thought i had a handle on this SPF stuff, but i think i've got something wrong in my understanding. I've set up my SPF record for our domain with the following record: choicenet1.com v=spf1 ip4:207.170.239.11 ip4:207.170.239.4 a mx -all From my understanding of this, the ip4's are

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread R. Scott Perry
Now, my dialup customers are on a different subnet and log into our imail server using smtp auth. When they send emails out, shouldn't the ip addy of the email then take on the ip addy of the email server in the eyes of the receiving mail server? No. Otherwise, it would defeat the purpose of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue

2004-09-29 Thread Kevin Bilbee
, September 29, 2004 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF issue Unfortunately i'm running imail 7.07 and it doesn't look like we'll be going to 8.x anytime soon. So, if i change my spf record to include the ip pool of my dialup users, i should be ok, correct

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF

2004-09-28 Thread Karl Hentschel
I was hoping someone could help me with SPF settings. Currently any domain that has an unknown SPF, is not supported or does not exist has -3 (same as SPF pass) applied to the overall total. I found the log file spf.none that has these domains listed. How do I get 0 points applied if a domain is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF

2004-09-28 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was hoping someone could help me with SPF settings. Currently any domain that has an unknown SPF, is not supported or does not exist has -3 (same as SPF pass) applied to the overall total. spfpass spf pass x 0 -3 spffail spf fail x 0 -3 With these settings, any E-mail that does not pass and/or

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF Envelope Rewriting

2004-09-28 Thread A. Clausen
We've implemented SPF for all the domains we do mail hosting for, and have enabled SPF checking on Declude. Only one thing remains, and that is the issue of message envelopes. The big thing that busts SPF is a message forwarding, and the only way around this is to rewrite the envelope. I know

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Envelope Rewriting

2004-09-28 Thread R. Scott Perry
We've implemented SPF for all the domains we do mail hosting for, and have enabled SPF checking on Declude. Only one thing remains, and that is the issue of message envelopes. The big thing that busts SPF is a message forwarding, and the only way around this is to rewrite the envelope. This is

[Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message Hi, Does Declude correctly interprete the SPF records published by Hotmail/MSN? E.g., currently we publish something like this... v=spf1 mx ip4:216.124.168.0/28include:webhost.hm-software.com -all but the new format would look like that: spf2.0/pra mx

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread R. Scott Perry
Does Declude correctly interprete the SPF records published by Hotmail/MSN? E.g., currently we publish something like this... v=spf1 mx ip4:216.124.168.0/28 include:webhost.hm-software.com -all but the new format would look like that: spf2.0/pra mx ip4:216.124.168.0/28

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Bill Landry
Message- Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt I have been contacted by several clients who want SenderID information added to their DNS. If that's representative, then the adoption rate should skyrocket next month, and I sure would like to benefit from it! If do have a maintenance

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott: I wonder if others on this list have seen inquiries from their hosting customers indicating that there will be some good number of domains who will support it. Besides I have seen Declude jump on some pretty irrelevant proposals in the last year. Compared to that SenderID will be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Bill Landry
competing standards that are not so encumbered by patents and licenses as SenderID is? Bill - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:55 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ? Hi, Nope, they don't read Apache

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - Correct. But there are also the patent issues, and the muckiness of it all (I'm having troubles even finding an official Microsoft document that documents this new Sender-ID). Here you go: Sender ID (Published: June 23, 2004 | Updated: July 12, 2004)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF 2.0 ?

2004-09-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott: But how are they hearing about the Sender-ID records in the first place? Virtually everything points to real SPF. Apparently, Microsoft has been promoting SenderID to email mailing houses (see: http://www.exacttarget.com/) and to their network of Microsoft Partners, who in turn are

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