Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Brian Fox
I'm -0 on the 2.0.11 release. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: On 01/07/2009, at 6:01 AM, Brian Fox wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: On 01/07/2009, at 1:47 AM, nicolas de loof wrote: I'm also fine with this,

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Jörg Schaible
Brian Fox wrote: Yeah get rid of it. Is there really demand for the fixed in 2.0.11? I feel like it's EOL now. The point is, in 6 months nobody knows axaclty anymore what is in 2.0.11-SNAPSHOT. That will actually stop any bugfix release ever. - Jörg

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Benedict
My preference is to release 2.0.11 as it is now (37 issues fixed). The remaining issues should move to 2.2.1. If critical bugs remain in 2.0.x, then build build a 2.0.12 issue list as people require it. - Paul On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Jörg Schaiblejoerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: Brian Fox

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread John Casey
+1 Paul Benedict wrote: My preference is to release 2.0.11 as it is now (37 issues fixed). The remaining issues should move to 2.2.1. If critical bugs remain in 2.0.x, then build build a 2.0.12 issue list as people require it. - Paul On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Jörg

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Christian Schulte
Paul Benedict schrieb: My preference is to release 2.0.11 as it is now (37 issues fixed). The remaining issues should move to 2.2.1. If critical bugs remain in 2.0.x, then build build a 2.0.12 issue list as people require it. - Paul +1 2.0.x is the last JDK 1.4 release. Users of the GPG

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Brett Porter
Ok, for starters I've moved all the open issues from 2.0.11 to 2.2.1 and am now going through them to cull them down where possible. I've also confirmed that the ITs pass for 2.0.11-SNAPSHOT as it is. Once I get the 2.1.x bits cleaned up (per original mail that everyone seems in favour of),

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 1-Jul-09, at 9:47 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Ok, for starters I've moved all the open issues from 2.0.11 to 2.2.1 and am now going through them to cull them down where possible. You need to leave the bugs raised against 2.0.x because there is no way around the fact that 2.0.x is going

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Brett Porter
On 02/07/2009, at 3:38 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 1-Jul-09, at 9:47 AM, Brett Porter wrote: Ok, for starters I've moved all the open issues from 2.0.11 to 2.2.1 and am now going through them to cull them down where possible. You need to leave the bugs raised against 2.0.x because

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Benedict
It's logical to believe that 2.1 and 2.2 contain almost all the unresolved bugs of 2.0.x. Since 2.0.x is no longer being supported, there's no good reason to keep them attached to that version. You only want to backport the issues that will get fixing -- not potential fixes UNLESS the issue is

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Jörg Schaible
Christian Schulte wrote: Paul Benedict schrieb: My preference is to release 2.0.11 as it is now (37 issues fixed). The remaining issues should move to 2.2.1. If critical bugs remain in 2.0.x, then build build a 2.0.12 issue list as people require it. - Paul +1 2.0.x is the last JDK

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 1-Jul-09, at 10:52 AM, Paul Benedict wrote: It's logical to believe that 2.1 and 2.2 contain almost all the unresolved bugs of 2.0.x. Since 2.0.x is no longer being supported, there's no good reason to keep them attached to that version. You only want to backport the issues that will get

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread John Casey
FYI, you can still build 1.4 projects safely in Maven 2.2.0: http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-building-jdk14-on-jdk15.html -john Christian Schulte wrote: Paul Benedict schrieb: My preference is to release 2.0.11 as it is now (37 issues fixed). The remaining issues should move to

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Brett Porter
On 02/07/2009, at 4:06 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 1-Jul-09, at 10:52 AM, Paul Benedict wrote: It's logical to believe that 2.1 and 2.2 contain almost all the unresolved bugs of 2.0.x. Since 2.0.x is no longer being supported, there's no good reason to keep them attached to that version.

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread John Casey
Brett Porter wrote: But I get the feeling that those sticking to 2.0.x are happy - in that they've got things working the way they want and probably won't jump up to further 2.0.x releases, let along 2.2.x. If we put out a 2.0.11 release and say this is the last, barring critical issues -

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Benedict
Jason, I apologize for misspeaking. I meant what Brian said: the affected version should stay the same. It's okay to remove the Fix for version which was altered to 2.2.1 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: On 02/07/2009, at 4:06 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-07-01 Thread Christian Gruber
As a user... +1 On Jul 1, 2009, at 3:41 PM, John Casey wrote: Brett Porter wrote: But I get the feeling that those sticking to 2.0.x are happy - in that they've got things working the way they want and probably won't jump up to further 2.0.x releases, let along 2.2.x. If we put out a

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 29-Jun-09, at 7:54 PM, Brian Fox wrote: Yeah get rid of it. Is there really demand for the fixed in 2.0.11? I feel like it's EOL now. I would guess the vast majority of users are still using the 2.0.x line because the 2.1.x and 2.2.x lines have come out very quickly and users will

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Paul Benedict
Personally, I will not be upgrading to Maven 2.2 until the next patch release. I am skipping 2.1 because there is no 2.1.1. Being conservative in my approach, I find it just too risky inside an organization to bring in upgrades without at least one patch release. Will anyone yet document

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread nicolas de loof
Brett Porter wrote: - remove the 2.1.1 version from JIRA and remove the 2.1.x SVN branch - +1 - promote the 2.2.0 as the stable release on the site and push all bugfix work towards 2.2.x +1 - a 2.0.11 release to get those sticking to 2.0.x the 37 fixes already committed there. +1 -

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Christian Gruber
+1 to Nicholas' assessment. Too many firms I've worked with won't be changing to 2.1/2.2 until it's been in production release for several months, and probably won't trust it. They'll need critical bug support on 2.0. We just need a window for migration, that's all. cheers, Christian.

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Brian Fox
That's all fine, I'm just saying that 2.0.10 has been out for a while now without any serious show stoppers that I'm aware of. 2.0.9 and 2.0.10 are very stable, I would rather see effort spent on the 2.2.x line instead. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Christian

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread nicolas de loof
I'm also fine with this, just would like to avoid some EOL tag on 2.0 that may be considered as lack of support by some corporate users using (old) maven releases 2009/6/30 Christian Gruber christianedwardgru...@gmail.com No arguments with that statement. Christian. On Jun 30, 2009, at

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread John Casey
I'll write this up in the site docs, but for now I'll explain here: There are a couple of reasons for moving 2.1 = 2.2 directly. First, we've moved to a requirement on JDK 1.5. While we had decided to do this for 2.1.0, we never enforced it or changed the Maven binaries themselves. To keep

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Brett Porter
On 01/07/2009, at 1:47 AM, nicolas de loof wrote: I'm also fine with this, just would like to avoid some EOL tag on 2.0 that may be considered as lack of support by some corporate users using (old) maven releases Sure, we can use a different name. All I meant EOL to mean here was that

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-30 Thread Brian Fox
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: On 01/07/2009, at 1:47 AM, nicolas de loof wrote: I'm also fine with this, just would like to avoid some EOL tag on 2.0 that may be considered as lack of support by some corporate users using (old) maven releases Sure,

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Benjamin Bentmann
Brett Porter wrote: - remove the 2.1.1 version from JIRA and remove the 2.1.x SVN branch - +1 - promote the 2.2.0 as the stable release on the site and push all bugfix work towards 2.2.x +1 - a 2.0.11 release to get those sticking to 2.0.x the 37 fixes already committed there. +1 -

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Paul Benedict
Hmm... - declare 2.0.x EOL after that release and delete the branch What harm is there in keeping it around? Even if you never return to it, it doesn't cost you anything to keep it. Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
+4 also Cheers, Arnaud # Arnaud Héritier # http://blog.aheritier.net On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Brett Porter wrote: - remove the 2.1.1 version from JIRA and remove the 2.1.x SVN branch - +1 - promote the 2.2.0 as the stable

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Arnaud HERITIER
Myself, I prefer to create a branch only when I need it. If one day we need to work on 2.0.x, we'll start a new branch copied from the last tag. We have already in SVN many branches for which we don't know if they are useful or not. Cheers, Arnaud # Arnaud Héritier # http://blog.aheritier.net

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread John Casey
+4 Brett Porter wrote: With the 2.2.0 release coming up, I've started to find the amount of merging (and consistency of it) is becoming harder, and I think it might be inevitable that there'll be confusion from users about what release is the right one to use. I'd like to suggest the

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Brett Porter
Just a matter of clarity. If its not there, there will be no question about whether to merge to it or not. - Brett On 30/06/2009, at 4:12 AM, Paul Benedict wrote: Hmm... - declare 2.0.x EOL after that release and delete the branch What harm is there in keeping it around? Even if you

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Brian Fox
Yeah get rid of it. Is there really demand for the fixed in 2.0.11? I feel like it's EOL now. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Brett Porterbr...@apache.org wrote: Just a matter of clarity. If its not there, there will be no question about whether to merge to it or not. - Brett On

Re: proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-29 Thread Brett Porter
On 30/06/2009, at 12:54 PM, Brian Fox wrote: Yeah get rid of it. Is there really demand for the fixed in 2.0.11? I feel like it's EOL now. There's a couple of useful things in there, and given that they've already been merged up there it seems like a nice way to wrap up the series. I

proposal for cleaning up 2.x series releases / trees

2009-06-28 Thread Brett Porter
With the 2.2.0 release coming up, I've started to find the amount of merging (and consistency of it) is becoming harder, and I think it might be inevitable that there'll be confusion from users about what release is the right one to use. I'd like to suggest the following: - remove the