Re: shopping cart is broken while removing promotions in some use cases

2010-03-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Adam, On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: 1: any product item added to the cart has it's own item group assigned. This means every single product item is in a unqiue item group. Does it mean that we will create an order one ship group per product? Regards, Jacopo

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hey guys, This could be so easy :/ Hans agreed to give the credentials to all commiters but he asked us to send him a demand. We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account. I should be pretty clear at this moment. The

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Also I wonder if we should not restrict the New section at http://ofbiz.apache.org/ to real news and not service providers marketing. Because this is really devaluating the news IMO. We could though introduce a new section for this kind of news, what about Services providers help you Jacques

[jira] Assigned: (OFBIZ-3440) Calculation of promotions and price rules should support multi-level GROUP_ROLLUP

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3440?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux reassigned OFBIZ-3440: -- Assignee: Jacques Le Roux Calculation of promotions and price rules should support

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842379#action_12842379 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3541: Hi Bruno, 2 things I thought about

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842388#action_12842388 ] Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-3541: Hi Jacques, what do you mean for create a macro

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Jacques, On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Also I wonder if we should not restrict the New section at http://ofbiz.apache.org/ to real news and not service providers marketing. Could you please show some examples of news items that should not be there? Jacopo Because

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3524) Some improvements for the layer lookup

2010-03-07 Thread Sascha Rodekamp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Sascha Rodekamp updated OFBIZ-3524: --- Attachment: OFBIZ-3524_FadeBackgroundFix.patch Hi Jacques, We don't use the lookups for

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3532) Selecting Items w/Layered Lookups Fails in IE8 on Windows 7 (64 bits)

2010-03-07 Thread Sascha Rodekamp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3532?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842395#action_12842395 ] Sascha Rodekamp commented on OFBIZ-3532: Hi Jacques, that can't be an issue of the

OmniGraffle export to Visio

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi, Could it be possible to have an export of the OmniGraffle adta model diagrams contributed by HotWax Media in a Visio export? There is free Visio viewer on Windows (though for printing it's almost useless :/) Thanks Jacques

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3527) Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk theme

2010-03-07 Thread Sascha Rodekamp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3527?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Sascha Rodekamp updated OFBIZ-3527: --- Attachment: (was: OFBIZ-3530_LookupLayoutFix.patch) Color of links in retrieved list

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3527) Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk theme

2010-03-07 Thread Sascha Rodekamp (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3527?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Sascha Rodekamp updated OFBIZ-3527: --- Attachment: OFBIZ-3527_LookupLayoutFix.patch Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Scott Gray
Jacques, you are mis-interpreting the contents of that ASF document and I really would prefer it if you kept your thoughts to the private list. This way we can correct you before you start scaring people away from marketing the project for us. Thank you Scott On 7/03/2010, at 2:20 AM,

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Scott, Could you explain which part(s) I'm mis-interpreting and what is irrelevant in my message? Jacques From: Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com Jacques, you are mis-interpreting the contents of that ASF document and I really would prefer it if you kept your thoughts to the private

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Bilgin Ibryam (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Bilgin Ibryam updated OFBIZ-3541: - Attachment: widgetMacrosInFtl.patch Bruno, I tested your patch, good work, thanks for it. Also

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing marketing. That sounds like a reasonable place to draw the line. For instance, I don't put my blog messages up there when they're not going to directly help users

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842432#action_12842432 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3541: Thanks BIlgin, What was the point 1,

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842436#action_12842436 ] Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-3541: Then we could progressively use it in the FTL

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842435#action_12842435 ] Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-3541: Thank you Bilgin, so, now Jacques how should we

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Scott Gray
I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works Apache OFBiz and the phrase Apache OFBiz are ASF trademarks: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to sections of this page in the following) So they can't be used in domain name (cf. section Using Apache trademarks

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Inline Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing marketing. That sounds like a reasonable place to draw the line. For instance, I

Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Through all of this discussion of legal misrepresentation and difficulties getting all of the right people looped into decisions made for the project, I want to stop and take a moment to acknowledge the fact that Hans went outside of strictly his needs and decided to get a twitter account for

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842441#action_12842441 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3541: Bruno, Actually it's not an issue. I can

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Not much more to say, inline... From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com Inline Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Tim Ruppert tim.rupp...@hotwaxmedia.com It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com Hi Jacopo, For me all the news from service providers are not real news because 1) there is nothing new in them 2) they are not external to the project, so I think they devaluate the other news (how insiders can be objective?) 3) some service

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works Apache OFBiz and the phrase Apache OFBiz are ASF trademarks: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ (I use references to sections of this page in the following) So they can't be used in domain name

Re: Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread BJ Freeman
we has a service page that I can not fine on the new wicki. I know some were moved to the index page. if the service provider page is still around that would be a good place. Just add a column for putting in Commiter, PMC member, etc. I know there is a comments column but these should be

Re: Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Here's the page - http://cwiki.apache.org/OFBIZ/apache-ofbiz-service-providers.html . I think adding either a column for social networking would be fine - but I really think this should be a separate page or a link to their website where they promote at will. Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 7, 2010,

Re: Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread BJ Freeman
There is a contact column it currently has emails and websites. I am not against another page. I get 2-4 hits a month from these pages = BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation

Re: Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Yeah - for now, we can add those networking components there too - and then if people want to - they can have their own page where they put their information and spiel. Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 7, 2010, at 9:54 AM, BJ Freeman wrote: There is a contact column it currently has emails and

[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3532) Selecting Items w/Layered Lookups Fails in IE8 on Windows 7 (64 bits)

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3532?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3532. -- Resolution: Fixed Thanks Sascha, So I think we can ignore it since there is a workaround. If

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3527) Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk theme

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3527?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux updated OFBIZ-3527: --- Attachment: screenshot-1.jpg Sascha, It works well when the layer is centered but not

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3527) Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk theme

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3527?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842454#action_12842454 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3527: Thanks Sascha, Commited in trunk at

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3527) Color of links in retrieved list for Tomahawk theme

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3527?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux updated OFBIZ-3527: --- Component/s: themes Priority: Trivial (was: Major) Color of links in retrieved list

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Scott: What private list? I thought this was a transparent process that everyone should have access to. BTW, you guys are a real hoot. I'm enjoying every bit of this thread. Regards, Ruth Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or

Re: shopping cart is broken while removing promotions in some use cases

2010-03-07 Thread Adam Heath
Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Hi Adam, On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: 1: any product item added to the cart has it's own item group assigned. This means every single product item is in a unqiue item group. Does it mean that we will create an order one ship group per product?

Re: shopping cart is broken while removing promotions in some use cases

2010-03-07 Thread Adam Heath
Adam Heath wrote: Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Hi Adam, On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Adam Heath wrote: 1: any product item added to the cart has it's own item group assigned. This means every single product item is in a unqiue item group. Does it mean that we will create an order one ship

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account. I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works Apache OFBiz and the phrase Apache OFBiz are ASF trademarks:

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread BJ Freeman
that must be for all the stuff that gets in with no discussion on this list, is done. also I doubt new developers read this list since most post on the user list. lastly I don't think what jacques is saying is something that should not the said out in the open.

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: David E Jones d...@me.com On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: We don't need to ask, if it's open Hans sould send all commiters the credential to share apache_ofbiz Twitter account. I should be pretty clear at this moment. The works Apache OFBiz and the phrase Apache

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote: It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing marketing. That sounds like a reasonable place to draw the line. For instance, I don't put my blog messages up there when they're not going to directly

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3524) Some improvements for the layer lookup

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842467#action_12842467 ] Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-3524: Thanks Sascha, Committed in trunk at

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote: It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing marketing. That sounds like a reasonable place to draw the line. For instance, I don't put my blog

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
What does justice have to do with this? Also, is justice really a priority for people? I'll state clearly that it is not for me. Justice is highly subjective and usually just a nice way of saying revenge. -David On Mar 7, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: From: Scott Gray

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
Actually most stuff that is done without discussion on this list is simply not discussed. The private list is primarily for discussing more sensitive topics, like inviting new committers and PMC members. That is why when people ask about such things or seem to be interested in becoming a

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote: It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you are doing marketing. That sounds like a reasonable place

[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3541) Using Widgets html form templates in FTL files

2010-03-07 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Bruno Busco closed OFBIZ-3541. -- Resolution: Fixed Assignee: Bruno Busco Patch committed to trunk rev. 920115, 920116 and 920117.

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I have any revenge in this. Justice is follow the rules. Who make the rules is another problem. Jacques From: David E Jones d...@me.com What does justice have to do with this? Also, is justice really a priority for people? I'll state clearly that it is not for me. Justice is highly

Re: OFBiz libraries versus Hot-deployed component ones

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Kévin, You could run the old instance and call services from there. Else I can't see any easy way to do this. I'm afraid you will have to get your hands dirty. Jacques From: Kévin Sailly kevin.sai...@gmail.com Hello Jacques, I want to use some packaged services from another development

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3542) Form widget extension of the sort-order block

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
Form widget extension of the sort-order block --- Key: OFBIZ-3542 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3542 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Improvement Components: framework

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3543) Ability to use the actual form name in javascript snippets in extended forms

2010-03-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
Ability to use the actual form name in javascript snippets in extended forms Key: OFBIZ-3543 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3543 Project: OFBiz

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:56 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote: It IS news when there is a new tutorial out there. It is not news when you

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:56 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Tim Ruppert wrote: It IS news when there is a

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:55 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:56 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, David E Jones wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
H... given the misunderstanding of other things I've written (seems to be from an incorrect guess at motives and goals for what I write), I guess we'll see how this goes. Maybe in advance I should say that my point is that Justice is not an effective way to get people to do, or not do,

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
My real question would be why is it always hurting people to bring up that the rules as they have been defined have been broken again? What was done wasn't correct, people mentioned it nicely, but then that wasn't ok - and it goes from there. The simple process of someone breaking the rules

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Scott Gray
I'm constantly amazed by how little you know about how Apache projects operate. http://www.apache.org/ contains an absolute a lot of information and more than anything I suggest you read the pages under How it works. I can't imagine why you would possibly be enjoying this thread but I guess

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread David E Jones
I agree with you Tim, effective giving and responding to feedback is vitally important to successful collaboration and all of us working together to build a strong community and make good software. Scott's response to my recent multi-tenant changes is a great example of such feedback, and

Re: svn commit: r919905 - /ofbiz/site/index.html

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
Understood on all points David - I was responding more to you on the general topic and I understand your concerns from Jacques post. Thanks for clarifying - and keep the book references coming! Cheers, Ruppert On Mar 7, 2010, at 5:02 PM, David E Jones wrote: I agree with you Tim,

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3540) Multi-Tenant Support (Login Based)

2010-03-07 Thread Mridul Pathak (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3540?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12842524#action_12842524 ] Mridul Pathak commented on OFBIZ-3540: -- Hi David, I tried the attached patch and it

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3544) Incorrect Data Format

2010-03-07 Thread Koon Sang (JIRA)
Incorrect Data Format - Key: OFBIZ-3544 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3544 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Bug Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce Affects Versions: Release Branch 9.04

Associate image with promotion

2010-03-07 Thread Amit Sharma
Hello All, We are planning new functionality in OOTB. Purpose : Associate Image with ProductPromo using content driven. Here is the jira issue link https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3533 Following work will be covered: 1. Add new entity ProductPromoContent entity having

Re: Project Support Acknowledgement

2010-03-07 Thread Tim Ruppert
I made some changes today on the Service Providers page, that I think would be a good model for people to use for showing their contact information - blogs, twitter, etc: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Service+Providers I did not get a chance to put in the

Re: svn commit: r920212 - in /ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/projectmgr: script/org/ofbiz/project/ProjectServices.xml servicedef/services.xml webapp/projectmgr/WEB-INF/actions/EditWeekTimesheet.groovy wid

2010-03-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Date: Mon Mar 8 06:59:23 2010 New Revision: 920212 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=920212view=rev Log: show wbsId on project manager timesheets After recent increas of temperature on this list I don't feel very comfortable in commenting because I fear this could be interpreted as