[freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread bbac...@googlemail.com
Uh? You have to mark in-memory objects as unused to get rid of them? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Monday 19 May 2008 15:24, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> On Monday 19 May 2008 14:47, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> > On Monday 19 May 2008 11:34, Matthew Toseland wrote:

[freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
t must not refer to any persistent objects). Actually, Perst is significantly higher level than db4o in one important respect: it has garbage collection. In db4o you have to explicitly delete everything. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080520/580965ee/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r19954 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/store

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2008 16:15, j16sdiz at freenetproject.org wrote: >> Author: j16sdiz >> Date: 2008-05-16 15:15:24 + (Fri, 16 May 2008) >> New Revision: 19954 >> >> Modified: >>

[freenet-dev] An interesting website for support

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Rogers
Matthew Toseland wrote: > Hmmm, I thought you were arguing that the latency would be unacceptable for a > message board system? I was arguing that you couldn't mix ten-second latency with ten-day latency in the same system. Usenet messages used to take several days to reach the furthest

[freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] CPUID patch from FMS

2008-05-20 Thread Florent Daignière
to use it. Which of the hooks shall I set up ? :) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080520/8ffbe7e9/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] An interesting website for support

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Sunday 02 March 2008 16:35, Ian Clarke wrote: >> What do people think of this website as a possible way to improve how >> we provide user support?: >> >> http://getsatisfaction.com/ >> >> It looks friendly, and pretty powerful. > >

[freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Another worry with db4o: a lot of configuration needs to be done on the Db4o > object, before creating the ObjectContainer. Once we have "untrusted > plugins", we will need to provide an indirection layer for plugins to call > the config

[freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Julien Cornuwel
y, my new code is not yet a plugin. I try to have it working standalone too. But thanks for your offer. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20080520/2381ae45/attachment.pgp>

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r19954 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/store

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 16 May 2008 16:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: j16sdiz Date: 2008-05-16 15:15:24 + (Fri, 16 May 2008) New Revision: 19954 Modified: trunk/freenet/src/freenet/store/BerkeleyDBFreenetStore.java

Re: [freenet-dev] CPUID patch from FMS

2008-05-20 Thread Florent Daignière
* Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-17 10:35:59]: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As nextgens is worried about anonymous contributions, I thought he might want to review this before I apply it. You know, I wish you guys would at least try

Re: [freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 19 May 2008 18:02, Julien Cornuwel wrote: Matthew Toseland a écrit : Thoughts? IMHO backups are an important feature, and they'd probably have to be hot backups for our usage... but then, not corrupting on running out of disk space is important too! I just rewrote the WoT

Re: [freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another worry with db4o: a lot of configuration needs to be done on the Db4o object, before creating the ObjectContainer. Once we have untrusted plugins, we will need to provide an indirection layer for plugins to call

Re: [freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!

2008-05-20 Thread Michael Rogers
Matthew Toseland wrote: Hmmm, I thought you were arguing that the latency would be unacceptable for a message board system? I was arguing that you couldn't mix ten-second latency with ten-day latency in the same system. Usenet messages used to take several days to reach the furthest corners

Re: [freenet-dev] An interesting website for support

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2008 16:35, Ian Clarke wrote: What do people think of this website as a possible way to improve how we provide user support?: http://getsatisfaction.com/ It looks friendly, and pretty powerful.

Re: [freenet-dev] Post 0.7 idea: off-grid darknet!

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 15:23, Michael Rogers wrote: Matthew Toseland wrote: Hmmm, I thought you were arguing that the latency would be unacceptable for a message board system? I was arguing that you couldn't mix ten-second latency with ten-day latency in the same system. Usenet

Re: [freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 15:21, Ian Clarke wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another worry with db4o: a lot of configuration needs to be done on the Db4o object, before creating the ObjectContainer. Once we have untrusted plugins, we will need

Re: [freenet-dev] An interesting website for support

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 15:29, Ian Clarke wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 02 March 2008 16:35, Ian Clarke wrote: What do people think of this website as a possible way to improve how we provide user support?:

Re: [freenet-dev] db4o and clients was More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2008 15:21, Ian Clarke wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another worry with db4o: a lot of configuration needs to be done on the Db4o object, before

Re: [freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 19 May 2008 15:24, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 14:47, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 11:34, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Sunday 18 May 2008 19:44, Ian Clarke wrote: Looking at the manual, it looks like Perst operates at a lower level than

Re: [freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread bbackde
Uh? You have to mark in-memory objects as unused to get rid of them? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 15:24, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 14:47, Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 11:34, Matthew

Re: [freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 20:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh? You have to mark in-memory objects as unused to get rid of them? No, on-disk ones. Because db4o is query-oriented, it doesn't know what objects you want and what you don't. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL

Re: [freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Ian Clarke
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2008 20:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh? You have to mark in-memory objects as unused to get rid of them? No, on-disk ones. Because db4o is query-oriented, it doesn't know what objects you want and

Re: [freenet-dev] More on Perst was Re: New database for Freenet: db4o

2008-05-20 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 21:19, Ian Clarke wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2008 20:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh? You have to mark in-memory objects as unused to get rid of them? No, on-disk ones. Because db4o is

Re: [freenet-dev] Moving to java 1.5

2008-05-20 Thread Florent Daignière
* Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-17 21:58:02]: GCC 4.3 shipped in March, including the new ECJ frontend. It has full support for all the new 1.5 language features. IMHO this means that there is no longer any reason to stick to java 1.4. Comments? Last time I was the one who