On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 05:35:04 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Polish certainly matters a lot.
Improving quality is an exponetial problem. After a while to
reach the upper level requires a lot of work for almost none
signifiant value added.
The whole topic is absurd. It's not a proble
On 9/25/2015 8:55 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Editing the path variable is one of the most unenjoyable and annoying
things to do in windows. start -> settings -> system -> advanced
system settings -> environment variables -> PATH -> note the stupid
window that appears; a single-line text bo
On 24 Sep 2015 9:46 pm, "Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d" <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/24/2015 8:47 AM, David Nadlinger wrote:
>>
>> What were the reasons behind this decision?
>
>
> The trouble is the compiler does inlining as a top down traversal,
whereas forcing inline with no
On 26 Sep 2015 6:27 am, "Manu via Digitalmars-d" <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 25 September 2015 at 01:47, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > [...]
> > our resident Mr. Why-Can't-D-Be-More-Like-C++, Manu Evans
>
> Bah, I'm not sure what this means. If you
On 9/25/2015 9:07 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I did file each one yesterday as I encountered these problems.
Ah, wonderful!
My post
was about something slightly different though, I just want to try and
bring it to attention again that the little things matter more than
the attention the
On 26 September 2015 at 14:24, anon via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 01:37:57 UTC, Manu wrote:
>>
>> On 25 September 2015 at 22:17, Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>>
>> This is because I am constantly introducing new users to D, and even
>> more i
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:17:02 UTC, Cauterite wrote:
The prospect of writing kernel-mode drivers in D doesn't seem
to get mentioned very often. I know there's been some attempts
in the past at running D in the kernel, such as XOmB, but no
mention of doing so on Windows.
I gave it a sh
On 25 September 2015 at 01:47, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> [...]
> our resident Mr. Why-Can't-D-Be-More-Like-C++, Manu Evans
Bah, I'm not sure what this means. If you mean I advocate for things
that are perfect how they are in C/C++, precedented by decades of use
and mi
On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 01:37:57 UTC, Manu wrote:
On 25 September 2015 at 22:17, Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[...]
This is because I am constantly introducing new users to D, and
even
more important when those users are colleagues in my workplace.
If I talk about how cool D i
On 25 September 2015 at 04:10, John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Thursday, 24 September 2015 at 15:47:45 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm not even referring to the multitude of restrictions in the DMD
>> frontend inliner here. When looking into the remaining 2.068 test f
On 26 September 2015 at 13:29, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 9/25/2015 8:23 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>>
>> On 9/25/2015 6:39 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>>
>>> Renaming optlink to optlink.exe would have solved one problem in this
>>> case.
>>
>>
>> Renaming it where?
>>
>> You
On 26 September 2015 at 13:20, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 9/25/2015 6:03 AM, Dicebot wrote:
>>
>> Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate shell for
>> each
>> application that has console utilities? X_x
>
>
> VS 10 does that, and I find it highly annoying. It
On 9/25/2015 8:23 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 9/25/2015 6:39 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Renaming optlink to optlink.exe would have solved one problem in this case.
Renaming it where?
Your posts are always tantalizing in that they leave out just enough information
to ensure I can do not
On 26 September 2015 at 09:15, Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 00:25:54 UTC, Manu wrote:
>>
>> I update DMD yesterday, it couldn't work out where it was installed and
>> the uninstall fails, then complains and errors when trying to install over
>> the faile
On 9/25/2015 6:39 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
Renaming optlink to optlink.exe would have solved one problem in this case.
Renaming it where?
Your posts are always tantalizing in that they leave out just enough information
to ensure I can do nothing to help :-(
On 9/25/2015 6:03 AM, Dicebot wrote:
Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate shell for each
application that has console utilities? X_x
VS 10 does that, and I find it highly annoying. It sets a zillion environment
variables that I have no idea what they are for or what th
On 26 September 2015 at 02:30, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:06:44 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
>>
>> I suppose, PATH variable on windows works the same as on unix? And path
>> hell can be easily reproduced on unix too. Nothing windows-specific here.
>
>
> A
On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 02:00:42 UTC, Kapps wrote:
On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 00:15:39 UTC, bitwise wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 07:42:25 UTC, vyarthrot wrote:
On Friday, 6 September 2013 at 20:47:54 UTC, Savsak wrote:
[...]
Try this simple socket programming
On Saturday, 26 September 2015 at 00:15:39 UTC, bitwise wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 07:42:25 UTC, vyarthrot wrote:
On Friday, 6 September 2013 at 20:47:54 UTC, Savsak wrote:
[...]
Try this simple socket programming
http://csharp.net-informations.com/communications/csharp-socke
On 26 September 2015 at 02:06, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:03:47 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>>
>>> Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate shell for
>>> each application tha
On 25 September 2015 at 22:17, Kagamin via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:03:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
>>
>> Realistically, no-one except an experienced full-time windows developer is
>> ever going to get this right.
>
>
> It's not a simple tradeoff: Manu's usual requir
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 22:15:39 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:54:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I bet that using git or mercurial would save our build guy a
ton of time, but he just wants to use TFS and thinks that it's
great (probably because it's what he's use
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:01:18 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:15:45 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
Where I think we don't do such a good job is curating such
knowledge and presenting it in a form that's easy to digest
for newcomers. That's also a function of the ki
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 07:42:25 UTC, vyarthrot wrote:
On Friday, 6 September 2013 at 20:47:54 UTC, Savsak wrote:
Hi Friends,
Socket programming with the D programming language is the most
simple way how to do it
For example, the sample with Tango, but not by phobos
How do I do this
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 23:34:21 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
- It won't nuke the PATH environment variable due to a bug that
was in NSIS (this was my first contribution to D years ago).
Oh, that was you?
Luckily I kept a copy of each path change, so it was easy to
restore. I hope it didn
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:03:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 00:25:54 UTC, Manu wrote:
I update DMD yesterday, it couldn't work out where it was
installed and the uninstall fails, then complains and errors
when trying to install over the failed uninstall, req
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:21:34 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:54:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Do you mean build from the command line? I did that at my
previous job where we were using cmake and had made the
directory structure very neat, and all of the VS s
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 23:15:29 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 00:25:54 UTC, Manu wrote:
I update DMD yesterday, it couldn't work out where it was
installed and the uninstall fails, then complains and errors
when trying to install over the failed uninstall, r
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 17:48:50 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:43:48 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
I use the installer just so I don't have to configure the VS
paths, but I tell it not to modify the PATH variable.
Wow, if it has that option, that's cool.
It has for
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 00:25:54 UTC, Manu wrote:
I update DMD yesterday, it couldn't work out where it was
installed and the uninstall fails, then complains and errors
when trying to install over the failed uninstall, requiring
manual intervention.
Then I try and build with LDC, it c
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:54:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I bet that using git or mercurial would save our build guy a
ton of time, but he just wants to use TFS and thinks that it's
great (probably because it's what he's used to, and it's from
MS).
- Jonathan M Davis
Look on the
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 21:18:08 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:52:32 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
A certain part of the population is endogenously motivated.
What can be more endogenous than self-gratification? Or an
incentive to write good code?
"
BTW I don't g
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:05:08 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grostad
wrote:
I don't understand what would make D iconclastic? The feature
set is quite ordinary c++ish, but there are some areas that
show that features have been added without enough work being
put into them before they were implem
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:52:32 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
A certain part of the population is endogenously motivated.
What can be more endogenous than self-gratification? Or an
incentive to write good code?
Your emotions are organised towards the problem domain - the
thing in itsel
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:05:08 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grostad
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 19:07:08 UTC, Chris wrote:
I think there's a good bit of fear involved. I've seen this
kind of behavior with other things, not just D. Nothing ever
suits people, nothing will do. It's an exc
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 19:32:10 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This is one of many reasons we (package maintainers) don't want
to allow developers to do own packaging and distribution ;) It
is somewhat common to patch upstream to resolve to proper
binary names.
With prepared environment it work
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 20:01:18 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:15:45 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
Where I think we don't do such a good job is curating such
knowledge and presenting it in a form that's easy to digest
for newcomers. That's also a function of the ki
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 19:07:08 UTC, Chris wrote:
I think there's a good bit of fear involved. I've seen this
kind of behavior with other things, not just D. Nothing ever
suits people, nothing will do. It's an excuse based on latent
fear.
Risk aversion is just good project management
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:15:45 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
Where I think we don't do such a good job is curating such
knowledge and presenting it in a form that's easy to digest for
newcomers. That's also a function of the kinds of people that
are here, because creative people don't li
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 19:03:16 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 18:44:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
It is normally solved by embedding version name in a binary
and providing symlink to the default (i.e. pytjon2 vs python3)
Not imagine they depend on a third utility, which
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:17:02 UTC, Cauterite wrote:
[...]
mydriver.d :
pragma(startaddress, DriverEntry);
extern(Windows) int DriverEntry(void*, void*) {return 0;};
build.cmd :
dmd -L/exetype:nt -L/subsystem:native -ofmydriver.sys
mydriver.d
checksum.exe mydriver.sys
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:17:46 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 08:45:08 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 04:18:44 UTC, Kapps wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 22:20:35 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 19:28:00
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:15:45 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:54:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
Having followed this forum for 2 or 3 years now, I doubt
whether an IDE would attract people at this stage. If we had a
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns
BTW, it's not very difficult to invoke the linker directly.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 18:44:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
It is normally solved by embedding version name in a binary and
providing symlink to the default (i.e. pytjon2 vs python3)
Not imagine they depend on a third utility, which they assume to
be on path and don't provide a way to overrid
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 17:47:11 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:30:04 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I really don't know what the "correct" way to deal with this
is in Windows, but the way that it's set up does seem to
naturally cause more problems with PATH than y
Am 25.09.2015 um 14:42 schrieb John Colvin:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:50:43 UTC, rumbu wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:33:40 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Fair enough, I guess this wasn't considered when dub was designed.
Have you considered making a github issue for this
(https://
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:37:23 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Years ago I used my D blog for posting all of the goings on in
the D world: reposting announcements, job openings, things I
noticed in other forums, interviews, and so on and was thinking
about getting that going again until Adam
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:43:48 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
I use the installer just so I don't have to configure the VS
paths, but I tell it not to modify the PATH variable.
Wow, if it has that option, that's cool.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:30:04 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I really don't know what the "correct" way to deal with this is
in Windows, but the way that it's set up does seem to naturally
cause more problems with PATH than you typically get in *nix.
Both work fine until you have conf
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:11:59 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The most obvious solution is to use one of the chromium/V8
based frameworks for the GUI and use the AOT compiled language
for the application engine.
This actually works surprisingly well — I'm currently working on
a rep
On 25/09/2015 14:54, Chris wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:13:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that puts
IDE support as part of its development effort, will h
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:43:46 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 12:50:55 UTC, John Colvin
wrote:
The complexity of the tradeoff is exactly why experienced
windows developers are necessary here. For exa
On 25/09/2015 15:34, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 20:41:38 UTC, rumbu wrote:
Nice to meet you too, Paolo. Browsing through your posts, I saw that
you are using "mainly Mono-D" :) Don't tell me that you are coloring
the keywords in your code using a marker.
Heh, to install
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:17:46 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 08:45:08 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
[...]
Well, gnome is written entirely in C AFAIK, so it's definitely
possible to write full-scale desktop applications in C without
C++. But off the top of my he
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:45:21 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
In this thread:
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sobegniauemvcepni...@forum.dlang.org the issue of an official blog for the D Language came up. I believe this would be a good idea. There is currently plenty of content:
- TWID is (hopeful
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:58:16 UTC, ponce wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 00:25:54 UTC, Manu wrote:
I update DMD yesterday, it couldn't work out where it was
installed and the uninstall fails, then complains and errors
when trying to install over the failed uninstall, requiring
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:06:44 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
I suppose, PATH variable on windows works the same as on unix?
And path hell can be easily reproduced on unix too. Nothing
windows-specific here.
AFAIK, PATH on Windows works basically the same as it does on
*nix, but a big differen
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:54:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
Having followed this forum for 2 or 3 years now, I doubt
whether an IDE would attract people at this stage. If we had a
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns (or excuses). D
scares people away. It's too raw, too bare bones, e
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 16:06:23 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:03:47 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate
shell for each application that has console utilit
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:45:21 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
In this thread:
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sobegniauemvcepni...@forum.dlang.org the issue of an official blog for the D Language came up. I believe this would be a good idea. There is currently plenty of content:
[...]
They could
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:03:47 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate
shell for each application that has console utilities? X_x
If tools conflict, they need a form of isolation. L
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:43:46 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 12:50:55 UTC, John Colvin
wrote:
The complexity of the tradeoff is exactly why experienced
windows developers are necessary here. For exa
On 25-Sep-2015 19:06, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:03:47 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate shell
for each application that has console utilities? X_x
If tools conf
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:21:34 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:54:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Do you mean build from the command line? I did that at my
previous job where we were using cmake and had made the
directory structure very neat, and all of the VS s
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:50:13 UTC, jdeath wrote:
it is s shame that you people don't start thinking about what
you need to do so that developers can easily and quickly use D
on windows.
Who are you referring to by "you people"? The paid development
team?
That's not how D develop
In this thread:
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sobegniauemvcepni...@forum.dlang.org
the issue of an official blog for the D Language came up. I
believe this would be a good idea. There is currently plenty of
content:
- TWID is (hopefully) a weekly publication. It could be announced
on the blog
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 15:40:54 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 12:50:55 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
The complexity of the tradeoff is exactly why experienced
windows developers are necessary here. For example: any
tradeoffs I designed would likely be very far from
par
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 12:50:55 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
The complexity of the tradeoff is exactly why experienced
windows developers are necessary here. For example: any
tradeoffs I designed would likely be very far from
pareto-optimal on windows, let alone be a good solution overall.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:54:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Do you mean build from the command line? I did that at my
previous job where we were using cmake and had made the
directory structure very neat, and all of the VS stuff was
separate from the actual code, since we didn't build
The prospect of writing kernel-mode drivers in D doesn't seem to
get mentioned very often. I know there's been some attempts in
the past at running D in the kernel, such as XOmB, but no mention
of doing so on Windows.
I gave it a shot, and it seems to be perfectly feasible, so I
thought I shoul
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:17:46 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
and use D for the backend. But hopefully by the time I get
around to writing any GUIs with D, the situation will have
improved.
The most obvious solution is to use one of the chromium/V8 based
frameworks for the GUI and use
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:50:13 UTC, jdeath wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:34:31 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 20:41:38 UTC, rumbu wrote:
Nice to meet you too, Paolo. Browsing through your posts, I
saw that you are using "mainly Mono-D" :) Don't tell
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:27:25 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
Look at Node thats stuff changes like every hour yet ppl still
use it.
I'll never understand why anyone would use node.js. The only
explanation is that they are hellbent on using javascript for
everything? But I guess it is no
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:34:55 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
auto tester has windows, linux and OS X.
And FreeBSD. It's constantly building on all of the platforms
that dmd supports. I expect that we'd have a lot more problems
leaking through into releases if it weren't. The auto tester
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:50:13 UTC, jdeath wrote:
it is s shame that you people don't start thinking about what
you need to do so that developers can easily and quickly use D
on windows. what are the most common used libraries, interfaces
to other software ...
instead you incense y
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:29:33 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 03:00:12 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I, for one, was very excited when I found out that you could
actually run VS builds from the command line rather than
having to open up VS. And at my last job, I re
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:34:31 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 20:41:38 UTC, rumbu wrote:
Nice to meet you too, Paolo. Browsing through your posts, I
saw that you are using "mainly Mono-D" :) Don't tell me that
you are coloring the keywords in your code using a
On Wednesday, 23 September 2015 at 20:41:38 UTC, rumbu wrote:
Nice to meet you too, Paolo. Browsing through your posts, I saw
that you are using "mainly Mono-D" :) Don't tell me that you
are coloring the keywords in your code using a marker.
Heh, to install 6GB IDE for a syntax highlighter, wh
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 03:00:12 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
I, for one, was very excited when I found out that you could
actually run VS builds from the command line rather than having
to open up VS. And at my last job, I redid our build stuff so
that we used cmake to generate the bui
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:21:56 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:54:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns (or excuses).
D scares people away. It's too raw, too bare bones, everything
is still moving like hot lava, and may
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:21:56 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:54:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns (or excuses).
D scares people away. It's too raw, too bare bones, everything
is still moving like hot lava, and may
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:54:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns (or excuses). D
scares people away. It's too raw, too bare bones, everything is
still moving like hot lava, and maybe people are intimidated by
Yes, stability is important for commercial
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:13:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that
puts IDE support as part of its development effort, will have
a big competitive advantage.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 23/09/2015 22:02, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
IDE is not just a nice interface to write code. It's a way to
organize
files, AST based file browsing, github integration, and - the
most
important aspect for me - is the *integra
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:17:46 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Well, gnome is written entirely in C AFAIK, so it's definitely
possible to write full-scale desktop applications in C without
C++. But off the top of my head, I don't know of any C GUI
toolkits other than GTK.
They also m
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that
puts IDE support as part of its development effort, will have a
big competitive advantage.
Indeed, when you are production ready having a top notch IDE
becomes a b
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:03:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
There seems to be a trend here:
Windows devs have problems getting D to install/work correctly
on their machines.
Non-windows devs boot up windows and test it and it works fine
for them (In this case that was me).
I was never ab
Hm, so is the correct approach on Windows to provide separate
shell for each application that has console utilities? X_x
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 12:17:42 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:03:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Realistically, no-one except an experienced full-time windows
developer is ever going to get this right.
It's not a simple tradeoff: Manu's usual requirement is that
d
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:50:43 UTC, rumbu wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:33:40 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Fair enough, I guess this wasn't considered when dub was
designed. Have you considered making a github issue for this
(https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dub)? It w
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On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 09:03:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Realistically, no-one except an experienced full-time windows
developer is ever going to get this right.
It's not a simple tradeoff: Manu's usual requirement is that dmd
must work at the utmost ease of use even if heavens crash.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 05:55:08 UTC, jdeath wrote:
you guys are nuts.
Of course we are! Else we wouldn't embrace something that the
mainstream shies away from and that doesn't make us rich. But can
you rule it out that in 15 years the guys in your company will
marvel at D saying "F
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:33:40 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Fair enough, I guess this wasn't considered when dub was
designed. Have you considered making a github issue for this
(https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dub)? It would be
really great for people to be able to choose their
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:13:38 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 09/25/2015 12:45 PM, rumbu wrote:
... Me, I don't have *any* reason to go back in time
20 years ago,
I'd advise to stop making those ridiculous and disrespectful
statements. It's slightly annoying and does not add anything to
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 07:26:13 UTC, rumbu wrote:
I don't buy this, command line is something obsolete compared
to any gui/web interface, at least in Windows world.
I don't get this, Windows shops have programmers and the
command-line is used as much as everywhere.
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:27:29 UTC, wobbles wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:22:04 UTC, Steven
Schveighoffer wrote:
On 9/24/15 3:44 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 9/24/2015 6:18 AM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
But who would be willing to make that happen.. hmm?
I've asked for it
On 9/25/15 7:27 AM, wobbles wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:22:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 9/24/15 3:44 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 9/24/2015 6:18 AM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
But who would be willing to make that happen.. hmm?
I've asked for it for years. But nobody want
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 10:57:23 UTC, rumbu wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 08:53:41 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 07:26:13 UTC, rumbu wrote:
And I don't use dub, last time I checked, it's messing with
my AppData folder.
"I don't use this program, it'
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