Re: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-20 Thread J. Moen
What is the FCC definition of spread spectrum, and where can it be located on the internet? Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: John B. Stephensen To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in U

[digitalradio] Re: ROS v1.6.3 and Windows Vista

2010-02-20 Thread ed_hekman
Yes, it does run in Vista Home Premium. Although there is no option for selecting the sound card, I was able to put the computer mic by the radio speaker and decode a few signals last night. It was surprising since there were many CW signals in the same space. Ed WB6YTE --- In digitalradio@y

[digitalradio] Re: ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-20 Thread n9dsj
Is it? Look at the published technical specs and explain how it is "Spread Spectrum" or "frequency hopping" other than by label. 73, Bill, N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Stephensen" wrote: > > ROS is MFSK16 with frequency hopping so it is SS per the FCC definition as >

[digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-20 Thread John B. Stephensen
ROS is MFSK16 with frequency hopping so it is SS per the FCC definition as the bandwidth is expanded. However, the FCC never fined anyone during the period when Hellscreiber was used illegally so I doubt that they would do so with ROS. What ROS users should do is email their ARRL representative

[digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-20 Thread obrienaj
In the few ROS 16 and ROS 1 tests that I have dome so far... ROS 16 seems similar to Olivia 8/1000 , good performance but perhaps a not quite as good as Olivia under QRM or deep fades. ROS 1 , not as good as JT65A in very poor conditions. Anyone else have impressions, perhaps I am wrong... th

AW: [digitalradio] Re: ROS ACTIVITY

2010-02-20 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Tnx … Best 73´s Dg9bfc Sigi _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Don Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Februar 2010 01:08 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: ROS ACTIVITY http://groups.

[digitalradio] Re: ROS ACTIVITY

2010-02-20 Thread Don
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP/ de kb9umt Don --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Siegfried Jackstien" wrote: > > > > Link? > > _ > > Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im > Auftrag von wd4kpd > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Feb

AW: [digitalradio] ROS ACTIVITY

2010-02-20 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Link? _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von wd4kpd Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Februar 2010 23:56 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] ROS ACTIVITY gentlemen to relieve the pressure on the digitalradio group

[digitalradio] ROS ACTIVITY

2010-02-20 Thread wd4kpd
gentlemen to relieve the pressure on the digitalradio group, i have started the rosdigitalmodemgroup. come on over and join (it is free you know !) post what you wish, but for sked requests and for cq notices. please put sked or cq in the subject box. david/wd4kpd

[digitalradio] Re: ROS "QRM" to 20M packet

2010-02-20 Thread n9dsj
Hi Sholto, I believe ROS is 2250 Hz regardless of baud rate and hence similar BW to standard ALE 141A and some Paxtor III signals. 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "sholtofish" wrote: > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien wrote: > > > > Sholto, my test

[digitalradio] LD-1A listed on ebay

2010-02-20 Thread Peter
I've listed one LD-1A on ebay, Item no. 170449003769, at an opening price of $150. 73, Pete, NI9N www.lazydogengineering.com www.garage-shoppe.com

Re: [digitalradio] Request for future development of ROS

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Toby Burnett wrote: > Eaxctly the same thing happened to me yesterday David. > > I couldn't see a way other than closing the program. > > I'm sure Jose will update it soon. > I'm glad it wasn't just me Toby. :-) I see ROS as a great opportunity to have an input to develop another great

[digitalradio] I/Q File Recorded Using LD-1 During ARRL International DX Contest

2010-02-20 Thread Peter
I've just posted a Winrad I/Q .wav demo file recorded using LD-1 hardware this afternoon, on 20 meter CW, during the ARRL International DX contest. It can also be played back using Rocky, and it's available at www.lazydogengineering.com/LD1Downloads.htm 73, Pete, NI9N www.lazydogengineering.com

Re: [digitalradio] Rethinking digital mode band plans-developing asolution

2010-02-20 Thread F.R. Ashley
I totally agree Phil, I get micro-mangaged enough at work. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: "phil williams" To: Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Rethinking digital mode band plans-developing asolution > Andy, > > I have re-edited this re

[digitalradio] Re: ROS "QRM" to 20M packet

2010-02-20 Thread sholtofish
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien wrote: > > Sholto, my tests suggest it is people on 14101 USB splashing in to you BBS > frequency, rather than creeping up the band. > > Andy K3UK > OK, I wasn't sure how wide the ROS signal was but it obviously is quite wide. Similar to ALE

[digitalradio] ROS "QRM" to 20M packet

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
Sholto, my tests suggest it is people on 14101 USB splashing in to you BBS frequency, rather than creeping up the band. Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, sholtofish wrote: > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , > "jhaynesatalumni" wrote: > > > > It would be interesting to tr

[digitalradio] ROS GI4LKG CQing

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
GI4LKG is calling CQ 14.101 Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype

[digitalradio] GI4LKG cqing

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
GI4LKG is calling CQ on 14.101. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Sk

[digitalradio] Re: Something to test

2010-02-20 Thread sholtofish
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "jhaynesatalumni" wrote: > > It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS > interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them. > That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other kind > of QSO going, and a ROS signal started up in

Re: [digitalradio] Rethinking digital mode band plans-developing a solution

2010-02-20 Thread phil williams
Andy, I have re-edited this response three times now. I was trying to offer something that would contribute to the greater good. I have nothing to offer to the greater good. I have come to the conclusion that I really don't care about band plans at such a detailed level. I respect what you

[digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread obrienaj
You make sense to me, Jim. Good points. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "J. Moen" wrote: > > Sticking with the USA/FCC-centric discussion, I agree with Alan KM4BA, when > he wrote: > > "If the radio stays on a single frequency in SSB mode the new mode does not > meet the defin

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread J. Moen
Sticking with the USA/FCC-centric discussion, I agree with Alan KM4BA, when he wrote: "If the radio stays on a single frequency in SSB mode the new mode does not meet the definition of spread spectrum that is restricted in HF. Many advanced digital protocols manage the spectrum in the SSB bandw

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital modes band plans.

2010-02-20 Thread bruce mallon
I don't know but they wanted 50,3-54 and 144.3-148 for 150 kHz wide digital and even stated BUT THE LEGACY MODE HAVE 300 KHZ for themselves .   Very nice of them .   BTW I run psk-31 and it fits right in with all other users. --- On Sat, 2/20/10, jhaynesatalumni wrote: From: jhaynesata

Re: [digitalradio] Request for future development of ROS

2010-02-20 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Hi, I know what is the the problem but i prefer it will be so. I explain me:  If i put other button called "STOP JUST NOW" many impatient people at 1 baud could click to this button before the end completly the transmission, thinking the software has crashed or like similar, so the receiver co

Re: [digitalradio] Something to test

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
and vice-versa, can it withstand QRM? On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, jhaynesatalumni wrote: > > > It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS > interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them. > That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other kind > of QSO goi

[digitalradio] Something to test

2010-02-20 Thread jhaynesatalumni
It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them. That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other kind of QSO going, and a ROS signal started up in overlapping bandwidth, does the ROS signal tear up the other-mode QSO, or

[digitalradio] Re: Digital modes band plans.

2010-02-20 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, bruce mallon wrote: > > I remember several spredsprectum people commenting that they didn't care if > they obliterated legacy modes. >   They didn't happen to be in the BPL networking business, did they?

[digitalradio] Rethinking digital mode band plans-developing a solution

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
Just some thoughts, critique welcome. If we think about HF digital QSOs there are 5 general types. 1. Weak signal propagation "probes" that are frequent in nature and regularly used by hams around the world (JT65A, ROS, WSPR, SLOW CW), Usually the exchange is a signal report, callsign, and loca

Re: [digitalradio] Request for future development of ROS

2010-02-20 Thread Toby Burnett
Eaxctly the same thing happened to me yesterday David. I couldn't see a way other than closing the program. I'm sure Jose will update it soon. Toby. ---Original Message--- From: Dave Ackrill Date: 20/02/2010 15:24:48 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio]

[digitalradio] ROS v1.6.3 and Windows Vista

2010-02-20 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, i dont know if ROS v1.6.3 run in Windows Vista ??

[digitalradio] ROS QRV now on 3600kHz

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
I'm leaving ROS monitoring 3600kHz for a while. I did receive this when I sent a CQ, but no callsigns RX: <17:17 UTC> <-7.8 Hz.> My name is: BOB My QTH is: Durham,England, Locator: nz33 Later I received a reception report email that said --

[digitalradio] 14.101 for ROS

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
The the CW contest has gotten to 14.101 and cant hr any ROS now, did hr some on 18.110 at times. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -

Re: [digitalradio] ROS QRV now on 14101

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: > Gerry Lawlor wrote: > > >> Any further suggestions for activity hot spots for this interesting new >> mode? > > On the subject of people transmitting on top of each other, you should > take a look at JT65a on 20M at times. HI. > > How about using the WARC bands? Many a

Re: [digitalradio] ROS QRV now on 14101

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Gerry Lawlor wrote: > Any further suggestions for activity hot spots for this interesting new > mode? On the subject of people transmitting on top of each other, you should take a look at JT65a on 20M at times. HI. How about using the WARC bands? Many are under used, even when they are 'op

[digitalradio] ROS QRV now on 14101

2010-02-20 Thread Gerry Lawlor
Andy et al. Looks like things have moved along and everyone is currently transmitting (simultaneously) on 14101 at present. However, I can't see this being very successful venture given the limited space available and the required spectrum width for the transmissions. There are/were at least

Re: [digitalradio] ROS v1.6.3 no Rec

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
Tnx I got it fix tnx any way. Russell NC5O  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Sky

[digitalradio] ROS v1.6.3 no Rec

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
I have ROS v1.6.3 but its not showing ant rec audio, I am using the Signalink USB interface, it Tx ok but cant Rec any signals, need some help, There are some tones on 14.101 at times any other place I can look for tones. Russell NC5O  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming

Re: [digitalradio] New file uploaded to digitalradio

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: > Beware! These is was recorded straight from ROS to Spectrum Labs using > VAC, so they are very loud. Sorry, I changed what I was going to write as I realised I had not ticked the 'notify people' button for the 16 bit file. What that should say is "Beware! These were reco

[digitalradio] band plans

2010-02-20 Thread wd4kpd
has anyone found a bandplan that includes the bw restrictions for the segments ? david/wd4kpd

Re: [digitalradio] New file uploaded to digitalradio

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the digitalradio > group. > > File: /ROS Audio/ROS 1baud.WAV > Uploaded by : g0dja > Description : ROS 1 Baud > Beware!

[digitalradio] New file uploaded to digitalradio

2010-02-20 Thread digitalradio
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the digitalradio group. File: /ROS Audio/ROS 1baud.WAV Uploaded by : g0dja Description : ROS 1 Baud You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/grou

[digitalradio] Re: ROS COM Port Selection...

2010-02-20 Thread wa4sca
I will throw in a request to be able to select NO comport for those of us with digital VOX interface. I use all the com ports offered, though obviously not at the same time. Alan WA4SCA

Re: [digitalradio] ros freq

2010-02-20 Thread Phil Williams
Be right there. philw de ka1gmn On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD < wd4...@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > > trying 18.110 usb for anyone willing to try. > > david/wd4kpd > > -- Philw de KA1GMN

Re: [digitalradio] Ros wav file

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: > W3NJ wrote: >> Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode. >> >> Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files >> section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good >> to know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything

Re: [digitalradio] Ros wav file

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
W3NJ wrote: > Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode. > > Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files > section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to > know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything "unique" at this point, >

[digitalradio] ROS crashed

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
I managed to crash the program today. During a contact the program swapped over from 16 baud to 1 baud and clicking the baud button would not change the mode back to 16 baud. Then I kept getting an error message saying "Tocando Limite Superior". When I clicked on 'OK' it just came back again.

[digitalradio] ros freq

2010-02-20 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
trying 18.110 usb for anyone willing to try. david/wd4kpd

Re: [digitalradio] Digital modes band plans.

2010-02-20 Thread bruce mallon
I remember several spredsprectum people commenting that they didn't care if they obliterated legacy modes.   --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Andy obrien wrote: From: Andy obrien Subject: [digitalradio] Digital modes band plans. To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:45 AM

[digitalradio] Ros wav file

2010-02-20 Thread W3NJ
Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode. Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything "unique" at this point, just the few "high-ende

Re: [digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY

2010-02-20 Thread Toby Burnett
I did mention this yesterday and sugested a frequency above 14.101 but I only got 2 replies, one from you Andy saying that all digi modes should be close, and one from Glenn who agreed with me. I almost think, what's the point if after about 40 messages that the issue is raised again. Obviously n

Re: [digitalradio] Request for future development of ROS

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
I've thought of another feature to add to the list. A button that stops transmission during a transmission period. The reason is I just came back to the PC and my 16 Baud 'CQ' call was loaded ready to go. However, whilst I was away, someone must have transmitted in 1 baud mode and, because my

AW: [digitalradio] A new Mode ! ROS PTT

2010-02-20 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Newest version uses com 1-8 _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Andy obrien Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Februar 2010 00:48 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode ! ROS PTT I see the PTT switch, it

Re: [digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
Good point, I am so used to narrow modes that I forget such things. Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD < wd4...@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > > if you are gonna be trying new bands, at the minimum, > do use frequencies that are good for SSB or wideband digital

[digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY

2010-02-20 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
if you are gonna be trying new bands, at the minimum, do use frequencies that are good for SSB or wideband digital. remember ROS is always around 2.5kc wide regardless of the baud rate. david/wd4kpd

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread Alan Barrow
Andy wrote: > > > > I find it rather amazing that 99% of the posts on ROS, and any > other new data mode, are related to its legality in the US. How > did you end up with such restrictive amateur licensing practices > that experimentation with any new ideas is almost regulated

Re: [digitalradio] ROS "M"

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
DAVID wrote: > WHEN I USE THE CQ MACRO THE OUTPUT HAS THE LETTER "M" IN FRONT OF MY CALL > SIGN I CAN REMOVE IT BEFORE I TRANSMIT AND IT RUNS > WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE "M" That doesn't happen here. This is my CQ call TX <14:44 UTC> CQ CQ CQ de G0DJA G0DJA G0DJA pse k Are you su

[digitalradio] Digital modes band plans.

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:54 AM, bruce mallon wrote: > > > > SO what you are saying is lets ctush the other modes so we can play with our > new toy ? > We just went through this with wideband/spredsprectrum on 6 and 2 meters . > I dont care what mode anyone uses as long as it does not cause p

RE: [digitalradio] ros

2010-02-20 Thread Box SisteenHundred
And a bow, rope and stick to create fire ? HI HI 73 - Bill KA8VIT > > I got into RTTY in 1976. Still use a machine for RTTY. > _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.

[digitalradio] ROS "M"

2010-02-20 Thread DAVID
WHEN I USE THE CQ MACRO THE OUTPUT HAS THE LETTER "M" IN FRONT OF MY CALL SIGN I CAN REMOVE IT BEFORE I TRANSMIT AND IT RUNS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE "M" DAVID KF4WBS

Re: [digitalradio] ROS New Mode

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
If anyone receives the automated message from my reception of their signal and wonders about the fact that my CPU is reported as being 100%, it's because I have a program called Prime95 running in the background that is looking for mersenne primes and it uses any spare CPU resource that other p

Re: AW: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Siegfried Jackstien wrote: > Okay guys in the group …. A new star is born :-D > > Now let´s make some on air tests … and … what about a simulation on a rf > path simulator??? The 1st part is starting to happen, I've not got the capability to do the second, but I'm sure there are people who can.

[digitalradio] ROS COM Port Selection...

2010-02-20 Thread Al
Good morning All... Does anyone know how to select, or enter, a COM port other than the choices available in the drop down menu? I use COM19 and can't figure out how to make that choice... Thanks... Al/ W8AII

AW: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-20 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Okay guys in the group …. A new star is born :-D Now let´s make some on air tests … and … what about a simulation on a rf path simulator??? Any takers?? Dg9bfc Sigi Ps just installed the software and maybe we can try something on air?? _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:d

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread bruce mallon
SO what you are saying is lets ctush the other modes so we can play with our new toy ? We just went through this with wideband/spredsprectrum on 6 and 2 meters . I dont care what mode anyone uses as long as it does not cause problems for others. SHOW THE FCC IT WILL NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS  and go

Re: [digitalradio] ROS New Mode

2010-02-20 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Jose Thanks ! I have only been receiving ROS on 14.101 but it is amazing how well it is able to decode weak signals. A question ; I am using the "signalink USB" with an internal VOX function as an external sound card, therefor the COM port is not in use. Is it possible to turn of the com p

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread KH6TY
VISTA version working OK on Windows 7 Home Premium. Starting testing on 70cm today. 73 - Skip KH6TY jose alberto nieto ros wrote: Yo only have to download the sound archive: "The Man Of the Vara at 1 bauds (-35 dBs)" and tester. The results speak for themselves ---

[digitalradio] Request for future development of ROS

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
One thing I would like is an automatic 'Stop' at the end of CQ and 'My email'. I just managed to keep transmitting for a while after my CQ ended as I got distracted by my partner, as she wanted to talk to me, and I didn't click on the 'Stop' button. Dave (G0DJA)

Re: R: [digitalradio] QRV 18105 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
iw1awh wrote: > Hi DAVE & group ! > > Nice to work you this morning with this mode. > I got your email too. > Unfortunately there is too much qrm on 20m due to many rtty stations. Thanks for the contact Rick, Yes, I struggled with the RTTY as well but the move to 14.101 may help a bit. I just

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread James French
I have to agree with Vince's explanation of the rules but I am thinking that we are over looking one rule here that I haven't seen brought up: §97.309 RTTY and data emission codes: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html#309 = (a) Where authorized by §97.305(c) and

R: [digitalradio] QRV 18105 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread iw1awh
Hi DAVE & group ! Nice to work you this morning with this mode. I got your email too. Unfortunately there is too much qrm on 20m due to many rtty stations. Very interesting mode. Many thanks. Rick iw1awh. -Messaggio originale- Da: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogr

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread Dave
Taking it a bit personally, Jose? No need to get snide about it. My comments were not an attack against you or your mode; which by the way, I think shows great merit. My only comment was the fact that the description of the mode as Spread Spectrum makes it illegal here in the USA on HF. If your

[digitalradio] Re: QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread ulidf5sf2002
Hi Dave, I think the activity freqeuncies have changed (see http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/). New Frequencies (Mhz) USB: 3.600 , 7.053, 14.101 , 28.300 Have fun with the new mode. 73 Uli DF5SF --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ackrill wrote: > > Andy obrien wrote: > > I missed the

Re: [digitalradio] ROS 14.101 MHz

2010-02-20 Thread Trevor .
IARU Region 1 bandplan indicates 14.080 is for modes using less than 500 Hz B/W. Bandwidths up to 2700 Hz are permitted above 14.101 MHz. http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/rsgb_band_plan_2010.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-20 Thread Wilfredo Aviles Jr / KP4ARN
Congratulation Jose for take your time for develope a new mode.  If is Illegal I think is not, because is experimental and that is part of this hobby, so for other part the most other new digital mode start in experimental mode like ROS. Jose not stop, go a head.   73' Wilfredo "Junior" Aviles

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 18105 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: > I will move to 17M and listen on 18105 OK Andy, will do the same. Just worked IW1AWH/2 and received confirmation email, so I hope he will receive mine as well. I presume 16 baud? 1 baud is, not surprisingly, quite slow and I have not got the hang of adding to/from callsig

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 18105 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
I have "auto" chosen, so either 16 or 1 . Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Dave Ackrill wrote: > > > Andy obrien wrote: > > My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). > > Oh, and I meant to ask if you were using 16 or 1 baud Andy? > > Dave (G0DJA) > > >

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 18105 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
I will move to 17M and listen on 18105 Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Dave Ackrill wrote: > > > Andy obrien wrote: > > I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the > > JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match > > starts. > > I

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: > I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the > JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match > starts. It's the usual doom and gloom and rumblings about the frequency chosen. Some people see any new thing as a potential t

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: > My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). Seems to be too much RTTY about at the moment as well. One of the WARC bands might be quieter? Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: > My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). Oh, and I meant to ask if you were using 16 or 1 baud Andy? Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match starts. Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Dave Ackrill wrote: > > > Andy obrien wrote: > > My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 US

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: > My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). I am > interested in how ROS does across the Atlantic around 10-1300 UTC when > 20M is usually marginal. Hopefully I will receive some European or > African signals. I'll swap back to 20M Andy, been on 18MHz and 24

[digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS 1 and 16

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). I am interested in how ROS does across the Atlantic around 10-1300 UTC when 20M is usually marginal. Hopefully I will receive some European or African signals. Andy K3UK Fredonia, NY FN02

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
Andy, I think you are incorrect. 50% of the 89 messages , so far, are related to the legality in the USA issue. You are also preaching to the choir, here. Most of the member agree that the regulations in the USA should be as you suggest, and many representations have been made. OK, now back to

[digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-20 Thread IMR
I find it rather amazing that 99% of the posts on ROS, and any other new data mode, are related to its legality in the US. How did you end up with such restrictive amateur licensing practices that experimentation with any new ideas is almost regulated away? Or worries the users that they make