RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-19 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
My...I think we have it then. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:02 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-18 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
, January 12, 2007 2:13 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? I rest my case: walt talks about all these different varieties of linux, RedHat,Mandrake,SuSe, puppy linux and Debian, all in one sentence. I take it these OS

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-18 Thread Dave AA6YQ
PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:13 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? I rest my case: walt talks about all these different varieties of linux, RedHat,Mandrake,SuSe, puppy linux and Debian, all in one

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-18 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Dave, I don't know about your day, but by the time I got to college it had all been converted to transistors. 111, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 5:25 pm, Dave AA6YQ wrote: And the internet is a series of connected tubes... On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 5:25 pm, Dave AA6YQ wrote: And the internet is a

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-15 Thread Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres
John Bradley wrote: I rest my case: walt talks about all these different varieties of linux, RedHat,Mandrake,SuSe, puppy linux and Debian, all in one sentence. I take it these OS are not compatible with each other. How the heck can u figure out what runws best with which? Well, they

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread John Champa
Well stated, John! John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:13:52 -0600 I First of all

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread kd4e
And Linux *still* doesn't have a decent email/productivity application that rivals Outlook. de Peter K1PGV Is Horde a Linux-compatible app? -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E ~~ Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com Personal:

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread kd4e
IMHO, this KISS (Keep it simple,stupid) principle that microsoft adhered to would be something for linnux to examine, in order to survive beyond cult status my 2 cents John VE5MU This was true several years ago but has become increasingly un-true with every passing day. I am

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only thing that stands between Linux and the common user today is friends-of-MS who refuse to make drivers (or driver info) available for Linux and programmers who are inadequately competent to make their apps cross-platform

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Chas Nagel
-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:13:52 -0600 I First of all , I'm a dyed-in-the-wool windows user, and make no excuses for that. There are interesting parallels between

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Simon, I want to thank you again for your plan to make your new software open source. A problem with some ham software is that it becomes abandoned for one reason or another, and either gradually bitrots (this finding the old library problem) or suddenly stops workiing, and the original

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Simon Brown
Hi, I am *not* making it open source, only the decoding DLL's. The UI will never be open source as it uses copyrighted code. I do have a backup programmer should anything happen to me though. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Ah, thank you cor clarifying it. I don't mean to start a rumor. But I still think your decision is an important and exemplary one. Leigh. On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 7:53 am, Simon Brown wrote: Hi, I am *not* making it open source, only the decoding DLL's. The UI will never be open source as it

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
would have been very different. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Of Simon Brown Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 7:31 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? - Original Message - From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only thing that stands between Linux and the common user today is friends-of-MS who

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
If you don't care about the history of Windows vs Unix, you can hit delete now. This has nothing to do with ham radio as far as I can tell. It was an MS vs Apple battle not MS vs Unix. Or perhaps MS DOS vs IBM PCDOS. MS developed Windows and IBM didn't have an equal. So MS kind of got

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? IMHO, this KISS (Keep it simple,stupid) principle that microsoft adhered to would be something for linnux to examine, in order to survive beyond cult status my 2 cents John VE5MU

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi! Just my 2 cents: *Apple had no role in any of these industry defining machinations. The only place they were on the map at ALL was in desktop publishing (which they continued to dominate for years). * And still do! lol Regards On 1/12/07, Peter G. Viscarola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Salomao Fresco Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 12:39 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? Hi! Just my 2 cents: Apple had

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] No or not much collaboration in the ham software world Simon. If hams who write software would collaborate more, I think you would see more and better applications for MS and Linux. Walt/K5YFW We do

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread John Bradley
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? IMHO, this KISS (Keep it simple,stupid) principle that microsoft adhered to would be something for linnux to examine, in order to survive beyond cult status my 2 cents John VE5MU

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
I haven't yet figured out what the supposed incompatibility between versions is all about. For most packages I've run, it's either compile straight from source and install, or do a search and find pre-built binaries that'll run on my system (Fedora 3). The only thing I've had problems with so

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread kd4e
I rest my case: walt talks about all these different varieties of linux, RedHat,Mandrake,SuSe, puppy linux and Debian, all in one sentence. I take it these OS are not compatible with each other. How the heck can u figure out what runws best with which? John VE5MU You'd be resting your case

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
] Movement toward open digital software? IMHO, this KISS (Keep it simple,stupid) principle that microsoft adhered to would be something for linnux to examine, in order to survive beyond cult status my 2 cents John VE5MU This was true several years ago but has become

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread o.
Dear Rick; I am trying to go into LINUX. I very well understand your idea of using a cross platform interoperability. For the past weeks I have been following all LINUX-related subjects on this site. I have discovered that there are so many LINUX versions. Now a question arises here. Is any

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
So I go back to my main question. Is any application written for one LINUX version capable of operating with another LINUX version? Best 73 Omar YK1AO Most Linux apps are compatible across most other Linux distros. The challenges are three: 1. Dependencies upon other apps. 2. The version

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
Hi Omar, Windows has improved greatly with the XP version, but my preference would be an open product for the world rather than a proprietary product. The MS Vista version(s) looks as if there will be very little improvement although some in the security area as some operations may keep a

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi That's my thought too! If the time and energy used on the development of the many version available were directed to only a few distro's, and make them more user friendly, i'm sure that everybody would benefit from it and more and more people migrate towards Linux. It certainly would help to

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres
Salomao Fresco wrote: Hi That's my thought too! If the time and energy used on the development of the many version available were directed to only a few distro's, and make them more user friendly, i'm sure that everybody would benefit from it and more and more people migrate

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
] Movement toward open digital software? Hi That's my thought too! If the time and energy used on the development of the many version available were directed to only a few distro's, and make them more user friendly, i'm sure that everybody would benefit from it and more and more people migrate

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres
DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: What Linux does for one think is make you think about what you are doing and keep you from becoming an appliance operator? How many hams really know how to program their 2M talkie? By the way... Did someone know about any software for 2M equipment

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
What Linux does for one think is make you think about what you are doing and keep you from becoming an appliance operator? How many hams really know how to program their 2M talkie? By the way... Did someone know about any software for 2M equipment programming under Linux? 73 de CM3NA

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Danny Douglas
. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
My main criticism of Linux is that is has horrific fonts that are not comparable to Windows fonts and the Linux folks try and make believe that this is not a problem when it is a really serious problem for any demonstrations with a Live disk, etc. to people who use computers for practical

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
I think that for some, the fiddling may be OK. I have spent an unbelievable amount of time over the years on fiddling with C-64's, Apple //e, 286's up to Pentium IV's,with both software and hardware, as I am sure many others here have as well. One of the most difficult things I had to do a

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
If UNIX had been available for $50 instead of $1000 back 20 years ago I doubt that MS would have succeeded in the marketplace. This topic is probably more appropriate on Slashdot than on this Yahoo group, but Windows preeminence on the desktop has nothing to do with the operating system

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread John Bradley
I First of all , I'm a dyed-in-the-wool windows user, and make no excuses for that. There are interesting parallels between linnux and windows users, and different users of ham radio.. On one hand you find those who are interested in operating, in communicating and making new contacts around