It is apparent that you understand that ownership of a copyright
allows you to control its use, even if that control is to allow free
use, but your statement has a major semantic flaw--
The words "precise" and "legal" are incompatible and should never be
used in the same sentence.
That's why
Exactly. My personal experience, which I believe is nearly identical to
Frank's, is found in our doing the software defined radio code (which
is used now by thousands of radio amateurs and others) finds Simon's
fear is misplaced. However, it is a personal (if incorrect ;-) )
decision and
On Jan 13, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
> - Separating the UI from the modems and rig control and using a
> protocol
> between them would make it easier to write platform-specific
> best-of-breed UIs. PSKCore.DLL is OK for this approach for
> Windows, but
> as it uses the Micr
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Brickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Copyright and Open Source are not opposites. Copyright ownership is
> the precise legal foundation of, for example, the General Public
> License (GPL).
>
No matter, the terms under which I use this code specifically disall
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From: "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I suspect what Simon means is that the UI portion of his application
> contains code whose copyright is held by individuals other than him,
> thereby precluding release to open source without the holder's
> approval.
Spot
> You are poorly informed, Doc. Condemning others
> based on what you've been told is risky business.
The attitude of condemnation has been somewhat
one-sided, and not from my side. I made a simple
*observation* based on 30 years of experience with
computers without the intention of it turning
It is difficult to work in a particular field and then come home and do
the same thing. As an electronics enthusiastic from a very early age,
due to a series of life events, I eventually wound up building a small
audiovisual/electronics/computer repair shop for an educational agency.
We even di
> - A Java digimode program sure would be nice. I have a few pieces done
> and would be pleased to work with others, but there are still people
> (Win/Lin/Mac/BSD who won't use Java)
> Leigh/WA5ZNU
Are you familiar with tcl/tk? I am not.
Many apps being used successfully with Puppy Linux
use
A couple of random observations
- UI is the hardest part
- next is device interface (sound cards, RS232) though the effort to
abstract that out pales in comparison to the problem of providing a
best-of-breed UI for different platforms
- Adobe has many hundreds of programmers working on Photoshop
Hello Simon,
I want to thank you for the great software and as somebody who has actually
attempted a little programming (with mixed results) I know the amount of time
and effort you have put into the software.
I usually run a beta version of your software and find your beta version runs
bet
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From: "kd4e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I have never met anyone who has developed multi-platform software who
>> claims
>> it is as easy as those who haven't :-)
>> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
> Who said anything about "easy"?
I bang my head against a large lump of concrete
> I have never met anyone who has developed multi-platform software who claims
> it is as easy as those who haven't :-)
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
Who said anything about "easy"?
--
Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
~~
Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven
> Peter is mostly correct about this. Microsoft is not involved in this
> issue at all. If a vendor does not see a market for their product with a
> given OS, they just are not going to spend the money needed to develop
> that driver.
I am not into conspiracies even the public attacks
against L
Peter is mostly correct about this. Microsoft is not involved in this
issue at all. If a vendor does not see a market for their product with a
given OS, they just are not going to spend the money needed to develop
that driver.
However, my understanding is that in some cases it is not the vendor
> I am referring to your assertion that the impediment is programmers
> who are inadequately competent to make their apps cross-platform
> compatible. Please explain the rationale behind this claim.
> 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Oh, that is easy.
Three sources:
1. Programmers who have told me directly t
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Some amateurs actually get software written and others who just complain.
>
Sorry, typo in the message, should have said: ".. and others who are
destined for management".
Now back to monitoring 15m PSK.
Simon Brown, HB9D
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From: "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> And you say this based on your experience developing and deploying
> which cross-platform applications?
>
Well said.
I have never met anyone who has developed multi-platform software who claims
it is as easy as those w
>
>I am also very aware of the profit-motive for
>excluding open-source versions of drivers and apps.
>
>Even as a private user I have wasted hundreds of
>hours trying to get hardware products to work only
>to be told by the manufacturer that they *chose*
>to refuse Linux access to minimal info. ne
>> The only thing that stands between Linux and the
>> common user today is friends-of-MS who refuse to
>> make drivers (or driver info) available for Linux
>> and programmers who are inadequately competent
>> to make their apps cross-platform compatible.
>
> And you say this based on your experie
I have looked at and sometimes used a number of Linux distributions,
some in the past few weeks in terms of Live CD and DVD:
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint, Mandriva, openSUSE, MEPIS, Freespire.
None have the quality fonts of MS Windows products. This has bothered me
for years (at least 5 years, if not
-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Salomao
Fresco
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 7:26 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?
Hi!
Jim has hited the proverbial nail:
I had to retrieve and compi
That's fairly simple. It just takes to make a static build.
Inconveniences: It generates much larger code.
Nevertheless, may be an option. If the codesmith would care for
releasing both static and dynamic linked programs, there would be a
solution for all.
That's what Mozilla does, as sake of e
If you want to learn how to program your talkie, you must you must crack open
the operting manual andlearn the basic operating principles of your talkie and
then roll up your sleeves and build and program is using what you have learned.
Didn't you just say that Dave?
Or, you can load software o
I think that 10 seconds or longer is a poor use of on-the-air time unless its a
very robust FEC mode. Also, as many who have observed, the ionosphere can
change much in 10-20 seconds.
Walt/K5YFW
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of c
: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:48 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?
How do you determine your specific 20 second turnaround time?
Couldn't it be any reasonable number from say 1 second up to maybe 20
seconds?
Seems as i
And if there is a move toward Linux by a larger group of hams, then I'm sure
that the ARRL or someone else would start storing the old libraries that make
an applications run.
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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jgorman01
Sent: Thursd
Hi!
Jim has hited the proverbial nail:
*I had to retrieve and compile several libraries.*
for most of us without the necessary knowledge of building and compiling
libraries, things can be difficult and can cause loss of motivation. Been
there done that!
regards
On 1/12/07, jgorman01 <[EMAIL P
And you will find my name in the acknowledgements in the preface as I
helped with the course development in its first two years. Gerry was my
advisor as well for a while. I heard from him last month, when he
finished his new K2.
Last year MIT started offering a mixed course for non-majors, of
WOW An MIT education for free (well money wise at least). Interesting
site, and a place I should visit often- but maybe a bit beyond my
comprehension these days. I missed the Navy Reserve Officers Training 4
year scholorship by one lousy point (should have taken the test in Oklahoma,
instead of
> That's my one pet peeve about Linux. You go looking for a program to
> do what you want and find out it is two years old and requires
> libraries that have been updated 4 times since then. Sometimes trying
> to find the older libraries is a real challenge. I would love it if
> everyone would s
How do you determine your specific 20 second turnaround time?
Couldn't it be any reasonable number from say 1 second up to maybe 20
seconds?
Seems as if the SCAMP protocol was around 12 seconds, but I am not
certain of that. Then the listening period was for over a half second.
That is the mai
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