Mnyb;669126 Wrote:
There is an origyear tag ? How well suported is that one ?
ID3v2.3 only has the TYER tag which is meant to hold the year of the
recording, not the year of the release.
ID3v2.4 has TDRC (recording date), TDOR (original release date), and
TDRL (date of this particular
Heh... I have no idea why we don't include browsing by genre... I'll
double-check.
The reason seems simple: they have poor API support for genres... 80s
Rock would return a whopping 7 albums. Rock 17k - and no way to sort
them.
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The official Logitech plugin for Spotify is really bad.Tracks I don't
have problems to find on my PC are not present on the Touch - This
track is not available in your region comes up all the time (I live in
the UK). I first thought it just doesn't filter out the unavailable
tracks but it's not
SqueezeBox is and likely will remain a niche product. Ask your friends
how they listen to their digital music over their hi-fi, their own
library or a subscription service.
The answers will be (in no particular order):
- I don't, just use iPod (or mp3 player, smart phone, Zune) with ear
buds
-
Is there ever going to be a new release ??
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/11/11/logitech.slams.rushed.google.tv.rush.in.exit/
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I thought that LMS 7.7.0 was aimed to integrate Revue and Squeezebox ?!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/11/11/logitech.slams.rushed.google.tv.rush.in.exit/
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Well, so much for the Revue acting as our savior for SB and MySB.com.
:(
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Very interesting report, if accurate.
Sort of implies that LMS was an utter waste of time and resources ...
especially since it fails miserably as a 'media' server compared with
other free options.
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duff ears -
Funny (well sort of ...) how he blames google ...
He should try to use himself softwares develloped by the company he is
in charge of.
And wonder if he really cared about software management, like he should
have done.
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Wow. That's not good. That's some pretty harsh criticism.
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Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running
SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats:
I wonder what the Revue's failure means for the Squeezebox products. Is
it
a. A good thing because Logitech realizes that it is more successful
making niche products; or
b. A bad thing because Logitech may just give up on media servers of
all kinds, including Squeezeboxes; or
c. Not relevant
toby10;669168 Wrote:
SqueezeBox is and likely will remain a niche product. [snip]
You are spot on.
I think the big problem for the Squeezebox lineup is the requirement to
have a server and have the players connect to it via a network. I have
said many times that I think Logitech have missed
I don't thinl Logitech promote their audio solutions sufficiently or
well enough.
There really isn't a great deal explaining the plus points of the Touch
or the Radio on their websites. A lot of potential users are put off
with by the misconception that both 'absolutely' require a local
server.
nicolas75;669183 Wrote:
Funny (well sort of ...) how he blames google ...
He should try to use himself softwares develloped by the company he is
in charge of.
And wonder if he really cared about software management, like he should
have done.
Well, he blames Google because Logitech STUPIDLY
So I tested LMS + FLAC + PS3 yesterday and to my surprise it just worked
(PS3 reported it was playing PCM). My server was running our ARM build.
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Thank goodness they've dumped the Revue and can re-focus on audio
solutions.
Assuming they can or will.
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TheLastMan;668463 Wrote:
Amazon is not selling any direct and only have 3 available from a third
party seller.
For the OP - as of this morning, Amazon has the Radio back in stock,
and for a decent price too. £119.99.
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jcowling;669188 Wrote:
I wonder what the Revue's failure means for the Squeezebox products. Is
it
a. A good thing because Logitech realizes that it is more successful
making niche products; or
b. A bad thing because Logitech may just give up on media servers of
all kinds, including
castalla;669190 Wrote:
Thank goodness they've dumped the Revue and can re-focus on audio
solutions.
Like the Transporter, you mean?
Logitech Sheevaplug or equivalent, all server software installed, but beefed up
so that it is no longer not exactly beta in their eyes, no messing
toby10;669193 Wrote:
Well, he blames Google because Logitech STUPIDLY relied almost
exclusively on GoogleTV for the Revues success. BIG MISTAKE!
Here is the entire lineup of Apps and services available for the
Revue:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/apps
Video calling, Netflix,
nicolas75;669183 Wrote:
Funny (well sort of ...) how he blames google ...
He should try to use himself softwares develloped by the company he is
in charge of.
And wonder if he really cared about software management, like he should
have done.
Well, reading the full transcript
Both are equally to blame. Google for messing up the product and
Logitech for blindly following Google without having the faintest
understanding what the product is about.
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pippin;669206 Wrote:
Both are equally to blame. Google for messing up the product and
Logitech for blindly following Google without having the faintest
understanding what the product is about.
Not sure about that.
When a customer tries a revue, he first goes trough LMS.
This cannot work for
LMS was not there fo the initail revue , it was there for 2 weeks :) so
it had noting to do with it.
They managed on thier own,
the streaming video markets is it own can of worms, it really lacks
basic support by the content providers *they* are cluless too piont
incase neither revue or apple
Revue originally had absolutely nothing to do with LMS, LMS was just a
late addition to help the product when the Google TV service didn't
come by.
The Google TV (not Revue, Sony has the same issues) is not Logitech's
poor product but Google's poor service and especially poor contracting.
Google
Mnyb;669213 Wrote:
LMS was not there fo the initail revue , it was there for 2 weeks :) so
it had noting to do with it.
I called it LMS since it is the current version.
Previous version for initial revue was Logitech software as well, I
guess.
LMS is hopefully probably better.
But having
Mnyb;669213 Wrote:
LMS was not there fo the initail revue , it was there for 2 weeks :) so
it had noting to do with it.
They managed on thier own,
Not what most were led to believe ... LMS was a shoe-in to provide a
service for the Revue. As a consequence, we all got a shiny new
You could not use any of the previous SBS versions with Revue
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toby10;669168 Wrote:
SqueezeBox is and likely will remain a niche product. Ask your friends
how they listen to their digital music over their hi-fi, their own
library or a subscription service.
The answers will be (in no particular order):
- I don't, just use iPod (or mp3 player, smart
nicolas75;669200 Wrote:
I still think the main problem is the software.
If you mean LMS that is completely unrelated to the failure of the
Revue. Revue has been out for over a year, only now is LMS a part of
the defunct Revue.
I'd bet the vast majority of Revue and Roku type buyers
If you read through the original transcript, it seems like Logitech is
still interested in the Squeezebox line:
We also have the Squeezebox product line we have actually seen a
significant growth in Europe especially to our partnership and service
providers but it is also growing worldwide
toby10;669168 Wrote:
Dedicated NMP's like SB Sonos are indeed very niche markets. ;)
Not to say there isn't money to be made in these narrow markets, but
the numbers are small compared to the lesser devices out there.
+1, spot on.
The mass market has been iPod docks, and is shifting to
Since the Revue is going away (and I unfortunately have one), maybe
Logitech could drop the whole LMS thing, and move back to an audio only
server solution? No point in serving up video and pictures to the
Squeezebox line, and there are already a lot of DLNA servers out there.
Also, no need to
amcluesent;668624 Wrote:
I can't think of a single instance when the Logitech bean-counters have
done the right thing for the Squeezebox community
I've owned a Squeezebox Radio for a few months and I'm puzzled when I
see negative comments like this one. No product is perfect, but this is
one
vrette;669237 Wrote:
Since the Revue is going away (and I unfortunately have one), maybe
Logitech could drop the whole LMS thing, and move back to an audio only
server solution? No point in serving up video and pictures to the
Squeezebox line, and there are already a lot of DLNA servers out
toby10;669229 Wrote:
If you mean LMS that is completely unrelated to the failure of the
Revue. Revue has been out for over a year, only now is LMS a part of
the defunct Revue.
As far as I understood, the revue disaster was a software disaster,
before an available content disaster (even if
I can't get squeezeslave-1.1-305-win working on my system. It refuses to
connect to my system through the internet. Older versions do work.
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rgro;669138 Wrote:
Yeah, it's a little bit of a head-scratcher. I'm running 7.7.0, all
wired connections, don't use mysb.com, etc., etc., but it was still a
total bust. I tried it numerous times at different hours of the days
always with the same result.
FWIW, my lowly DSL averages 2Mbps
widman;669233 Wrote:
If you read through the original transcript, it seems like Logitech is
still interested in the Squeezebox line:
We also have the Squeezebox product line we have actually seen a
significant growth in Europe especially to our partnership and service
providers but it
I have a duet and a transporter and neither the official app nor the
triode app work through SS. the official app goes through all the
search functionality fine but then only pretends to play (no sound) the
first 10 seconds or so of each track. the triode app just sits there.
yes I have a
When I am my.squeezebox.com
It sees the big Logitech logo and then connecting to server
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Official app ONLY works for radio or touch. But triode's plugin works
for me perfectly with transporter and booms.
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Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0
This is all very interesting. I also saw the 10-Q on Monday which said
there will be no Revue successor. IMO, the weakest part of the the
Revue is the Media Player, which I assume was done by Logitech.
This whole thing does make me wonder why they chose to invest in adding
LMS features to SBS.
fyi, you can also find all of your posts by clicking on your blue
underlined username in any of your posts (click - Find all posts by
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toby10;669168 Wrote:
SqueezeBox is and likely will remain a niche product. Ask your friends
how they listen to their digital music over their hi-fi, their own
library or a subscription service.
The answers will be (in no particular order):
- I don't, just use iPod (or mp3 player, smart
mherger;669142 Wrote:
I gave it a try.no problem with getting it up and running---sort
of.
I liked the sound quality, but it was completely unusable for me. I
experienced constant rebuffering which I suspect might have been due
to
the combination of the high bit rate and my lowly
nicolas75;669241 Wrote:
As far as I understood, the revue disaster was a software disaster,
before an available content disaster (even if available content is a
problem)...
Lack of content is a HUGE problem. If GoogleTV had succeeded we likely
wouldn't even be having this discussion
widman;669233 Wrote:
If you read through the original transcript, it seems like Logitech is
still interested in the Squeezebox line:
Very good news indeed. THAT is what I wanted to hear!
Thanks for that portion of the transcript. :)
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Mnyb;669266 Wrote:
+1 they should not aim at the massmarket, they should aim at to be
biggest in thier niche .
a product for music nerds and hifi nuts, I'll bet there is 100 time
more music nerds that hifi nuts and shall we gues that 1/10 hifi nut
own a squeezebox or a sonos or similar,
toby10;669271 Wrote:
If GoogleTV had succeeded we likely wouldn't even be having this
discussion because the Revue would have it's promised (albeit limited)
content. The Revue's software issues may have further hampered adding
other content, I dunno.
No, it would have failed, because
Mnyb;669266 Wrote:
+1 they should not aim at the massmarket, they should aim at to be
biggest in thier niche .
a product for music nerds and hifi nuts, I'll bet there is 100 time
more music nerds that hifi nuts and shall we gues that 1/10 hifi nut
own a squeezebox or a sonos or similar,
nicolas75;669278 Wrote:
I don't think it is a market for a company like Logitech, and I don't
think your figures are realistic.
They lost $100M in this revue thing ...
How much can they make with your market of hifi nerds ?
You know, developing software for nerds is not that hard.
They
Mice and keyboards, man. Should have stuck to mice and keyboards.
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toby10;669271 Wrote:
Lack of content is a HUGE problem.
Yes, but you overestimate the importance of all the online content
sources that some competitors like Roku offer. The most important for
video in the US are Netflix, Vudu and Amazon, in that order.
For music, online content is a
Hi,
To me random mix is not really random (squeezebox server 7.6.1 on
linux). Many songs in the list belong to the same album.
Am I the only one in that situation? Could this plugin be smarter?
Thanks.
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MelonMonkey;669287 Wrote:
Yes, but you overestimate the importance of all the online content
sources that some competitors like Roku offer. The most important for
video in the US are Netflix, Vudu and Amazon, in that order
.
For which the Revue only offered ONE of those. ;)
MelonMonkey;669287 Wrote:
.
For music, online content is a distant second to personal content -
just ask Apple about this, they built their whole music business first
on Rip, Mix, Burn, then to Rip and Mix and then to buy and
download.
Yes, but unrelated to a Revue box. AppleTV??
nicolas75;669281 Wrote:
No, revue would have failed, because almost no customer in this market
would accept to use unreliable beta software.
They would have turned to revue competition.
I agree, but I'd rephrase that to ... Revue would have failed
*anyways*... (do to flaky software)
But
chill;669195 Wrote:
For the OP - as of this morning, Amazon has the Radio back in stock, and
for a decent price too. £119.99.
Phew! Thanks for that. Looks like I may have been wrong in my fears
then.
Now I just have to get the Radio past the household expenditure
committee. Let's hope she is
The official is a messed up app.
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Mnyb;669285 Wrote:
Why are you using a squeezebox :) I'm using it rigth now cuing up some
music on my radio with my iPad extremely user friendly , have you
nothing positive to say about your squeezebox ? Every single one of
your posts is about how it not fits exactly your narrow user case
TheLastMan;669297 Wrote:
..
Now I just have to get the Radio past the household expenditure
committee. Let's hope she is in a good mood this weekend.
Tell her it has a battery so we can use it in case of an emergency for
news and updates, like if we lose power for a few days.
Of course,
JJZolx;669286 Wrote:
Mice and keyboards, man. Should have stuck to mice and keyboards.
I really like the Revue's keyboard :)
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toby10;669296 Wrote:
I agree, but I'd rephrase that to ... Revue would have failed
*anyways*... (do to flaky software)
But absent a decent amount of content it would also have failed even
with stable software.
But I do see your point.
Ok, now we agree.
I am sure squeezeboxes software
I think the Revue business has been reviewed and is now over.
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nicolas75;669311 Wrote:
1/ Concentrate on ease of use for non tech people, fix those
unbelievable and unreliable mandatory scans (probably the main cause of
end users problems, and non existing in almost every competitor
software).
The only mandatory scan is when you first
Mark Miksis;669310 Wrote:
I really like the Revue's keyboard :)
Me too. It's a shame because it is nice hardware. I like how it goes
inline with the HDMI connection - it simplifies setup and you don't
need yet another HDMI port. This came in handy since my main TV is old
enough that it only
Fahzz;666985 Wrote:
I have a question on the Revue, now that SBS 7.7 is out.
Does any body know how these compare to SB devices for playing music?
Do they have the same or similar built in DAC's etc? I ask because they
are being sold for $99 and I could attach one to my the home theater,
Try the forums search function. It's been discussed many times.
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Anyone want to take a guess as to how long it takes these geniuses to
rename the server now that they have no need for a 'media server'?
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Logitech could always buy Sonos
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I'm still looking forward to what can be done with it once honeycomb is
released for it - hopefully next week.
Do you expect that release will go ahead given this announcement? I
expect they will can it altogether as they don't need another potential
bunch of issues on a box that is now EOL.
Hi,
Running the latest (2.2.1.2126) Whitebear with SBS 7.6.2 on WHS.
In my WMP client on my Win 7 laptop, the Whitebear library that appears
seems outdated. I had a problem in the past, where Windows overwrote a
whole bunch of my tags corrupting the Album Artist tags, such that they
appear as
sebage;669367 Wrote:
I'm still looking forward to what can be done with it once honeycomb is
released for it - hopefully next week.
Do you expect that release will go ahead given this announcement? I
expect they will can it altogether as they don't need another potential
bunch of issues
MelonMonkey;669287 Wrote:
.
GoogleTV in general has failed because it was never clear to anyone,
including the consumer, what the device was for and it didn't work well
enough to allow anyone to use it for discovering the purpose for
themselves.
Amen.
Even Google never seemed to
sebage;669367 Wrote:
I'm still looking forward to what can be done with it once honeycomb is
released for it - hopefully next week.
Do you expect that release will go ahead given this announcement? I
expect they will can it altogether as they don't need another potential
bunch of issues
The Revue update is still coming, that team already put a lot of work
into it and it's just in the final testing stages. And yes, the
pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being interested in
Squeezebox again.
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andyg;669377 Wrote:
The Revue update is still coming, that team already put a lot of work
into it and it's just in the final testing stages. And yes, the
pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being interested in
Squeezebox again.
Any chance of picking up resources that the SB project
Hi, anyone are using xbox live 48 hours codes ? I want ask if they works
fine such as 1 month cards
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I think the reason that Logitech is not emphasizing the Revue anymore is
because Google bought Sage TV back in August this year. Sage TV is a
complete off-air and internet TV capable system with hardware and PC
software. I have a system and it works extremely well, but now is in
limbo because of
castalla;669321 Wrote:
The only mandatory scan is when you first install/update the sbs
software - and I've never had a failure, ever.
Yes I know that.
There is one mandatory scan on SBS/LMS the first time you start it, and
you are totally unable to play a file on the usb stick your friend
I had searched before posting but not seriously enough apparently.
I am really surprised a smart random is not available. For such a
device as Squeezebox Touch, it should be really a must.
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bluegaspode;669371 Wrote:
Reading the original transcript I don't see them dropping Revue?
No, it does look like they'll be ceasing production of the Revue:
As our CEO Guerrino De Luca stated earlier this week, Logitech will not
manufacture new Logitech Revue units. That said, we do believe
garym;669262 Wrote:
Uninstall the official app and use ONLY the triode app.
I'd like to but as I said - my SBS runs on marvel processor and
triode's app works only on x86! And I've learnt similar problems are
with Spotify on Sonos.
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JJZolx;669378 Wrote:
Any chance of picking up resources that the SB project lost previously?
Sounds like they plan to shift resources to Harmony in the near future.
Yes, although unfortunately we have seen a lot of great people decide
to leave in the past year too (Ben, Tom, Matt, Steven,
Pick random mix--then shuffle it! That's what I do if I really want to
be surprised. Like shuffling a deck of cards 10 times.
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andyg;669377 Wrote:
And yes, the pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being
interested in Squeezebox again.
That's good news!
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mhaas;669387 Wrote:
I'd like to but as I said - my SBS runs on marvel processor and triode's
app works only on x86! And I've learnt similar problems are with Spotify
on Sonos.
Triode's app also works on some ARM based NAS which would include
Marvell as long as Linux kernel and support
I bought one in PC World two days ago. Available in store only and stock
appears to be patchy but the price is good £119.99. Two weeks ago it was
£99, but I was nowhere near a store with stock :-(
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toby10;669305 Wrote:
Tell her it has a battery so we can use it in case of an emergency for
news and updates, like if we lose power for a few days.
Of course, the fact that your modem router won't work anyways
let's hope she doesn't pick up on that aspect. ;)
Battery and reemote only
I just watched this interview:
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=1900787476
What is EMEA?
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andyg;669377 Wrote:
The Revue update is still coming, that team already put a lot of work
into it and it's just in the final testing stages. And yes, the
pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being interested in
Squeezebox again.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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(3) SB Touch,
JJZolx;669411 Wrote:
What is EMEA?
Ah...
Europe, Middle East, and Africa.
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JJZolx;669411 Wrote:
I just watched this interview:
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=1900787476
What is EMEA?
some logitech department , probably the Eu division or somesuch ?
Using interbal acronyms externally ?
Install flashnplayer says my iPad , I'll watch it on a proper
Mnyb;669413 Wrote:
Install flashnplayer says my iPad , I'll watch it on a proper computer
tomorrow...
He doesn't mention Google TV or Revue and nothing about music products.
Says (about 20 times) that EMEA sales were disappointing. Then goes on
to say they've had record sales in mice and
Mnyb;669413 Wrote:
Using interbal acronyms externally ?
A lot of US companies use EMEA as an acronym, first stumbled upon it
some 20 years ago at IBM, MS has it, too. It's a bit like Rest of
World minus Asia and South America
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JJZolx;669414 Wrote:
Mice and keyboards, Jerry. Mice and keyboards.
Say Cheese
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andyg;669377 Wrote:
And yes, the pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being interested
in Squeezebox again.
Best news I've read on this board in a long time. Thanks for posting
your perspective on this Andy. Hopefully the SB team will be
appropriately staffed again soon.
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andyg;669377 Wrote:
And yes, the pendulum seems to be swinging back to Logi being interested
in Squeezebox again.
Now the big question is: will they hire people who UNDERSTAND this
product? And I'm not talking about developers here.
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