[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-11-03 Thread Gavster
I have read with interest some of the responses on this thread and they are very varied indeed. Personally, I like to keep an open mind however I do think that Logitech have a steep climb if they want to establish themselves in the high-end audio market. I must say that I have always been very ha

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-11-03 Thread MrSinatra
i think the lcd should be color on the remote, but i see no harm in having a secondary video output to a tv or whatever, superimposing info. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram -

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-11-02 Thread dr4stic
earthbased;150284 Wrote: > I think a cool idea would be for the SB to have a video output so lyrics > and album info/art could be shown on the TV. Not crazy about the idea unless it doesn't take away from the focus on the LCD. I bought a squeezebox cuz I didn't want to have to use a TV to listen

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-29 Thread hansto
I was shocked when I read the announcement. However following the thread gives some hope. I hope that a product in the "upper consumer range" like the squeezebox will still be marketed under the slimdevices brand name. I really wouldn't like to have a Logitech product on my stereo. And I really

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-29 Thread jackaninny
i've been watching and following slim since the first days. i currently have 4 squeezebox3 units and have resold my older units to friends and family. i have too say that this announcement brings a bit of sadness to my life. although i know there are examples of megacorp-buys-little-guy-hero-and-l

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-28 Thread Koenraadr
I hope this means parallel streams of new product development. I for one fancy a WiFi connected portable Slimserver compatible player. Just up Logitechs' street. -- Koenraadr Koenraadr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-27 Thread gdg
Trackballs RULE! -- gdg gdg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1122 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 __

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-27 Thread earthbased
John Gorst;147457 Wrote: > > > > Video squeezebox?? > (not actually interested in one myself) > I think a cool idea would be for the SB to have a video output so lyrics and album info/art could be shown on the TV. -- earthbased ---

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
Now when you mention it. I had one of those black spherical ones that looked quite funky when they came out. It was USB (so was advanced for its time). Support for it was just dropped for no apparent reason not long after I got it. Made me mad as hell as those things weren't cheap in those days. I

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
dwc;150096 Wrote: > I on the other hand have been part of a small company that was *not > *acquired by a larger one. > > It went out of business as players with much bigger budgets stomped the > market. > > Sean did the right thing for Slim Devices. Actually, in our case we might as well have

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-27 Thread P Floding
Mitch Harding;150093 Wrote: > I, on the other hand, would purchase Microsoft hifi if it sounded good. > The > label doesn't affect the sound. > > On 10/26/06, P Floding < > P.Floding.2gb86n1161907801 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> > wrote: > > > > That is the way it works in the conno

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread dwc
P Floding;150078 Wrote: > I've been part of a small company that was acquired by a larger one, and > I can see all sorts of problems on the horizon. I on the other hand have been part of a small company that was *not *acquired by a larger one. It went out of business as players with much bigger

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
I, on the other hand, would purchase Microsoft hifi if it sounded good.  The label doesn't affect the sound.On 10/26/06, P Floding < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:That is the way it works in the connoisseur arena. And there is nothing level-headed people can do about it, no matter how logical theirargum

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread totoro
P Floding;150082 Wrote: > That is the way it works in the connoisseur arena. And there is nothing > level-headed people can do about it, no matter how logical their > arguments are. I would NOT want a Microsoft hifi. Period! Well, for the "connoisseurs" there's always sonos, olive, or sooloos :)

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread P Floding
JackOfAll;148617 Wrote: > Well, I'm certainly not narrow minded; I listen. As I hinted in a > previous post, I socialise with audiophiles. As a direct result of > hearing a Squeezebox in my system, at least 5 people have bought one. > Let me tell you, it was hard enough to get those people to lea

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread P Floding
junien;147410 Wrote: > Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of > the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit. > The first thing I'll say is that we are very excited about the > opportunity that Slim Devices will bring to Logitech. This is > a great extension

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread Nostromo
> For the general computer consumer I think it is very complicated. > Yes, its probably not user-friendly enough for most people. I was talking to my brother (who doesn't know beans about computers) and raved about my Squeezebox. He said: "very cool, where can I get one?" And I answered: " I war

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread Mitch Harding
That is too bad.  Did you try to get help from these mailing lists?  There are many helpful users here...On 10/26/06, GregP < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Wow,  Good luck...  I'm in the process of sending my squeezbox back becauase I was unable to get Slimserver to work even with some customersupport..

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread GregP
Wow, Good luck... I'm in the process of sending my squeezbox back becauase I was unable to get Slimserver to work even with some customer support... I don't think slimdevices is ready for the general consumer market. For the general computer consumer I think it is very complicated. GP seanad

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread mudlark
I live in the Uk and my experience of logitech has been nothing but excellent. I had a conflict between a logitech device and a PCi card on my computer. I ended up on first name terms with a support guy in europe and he battled away with the problem until everything was sorted. Very friendly, so i

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-26 Thread autopilot
Wow, i just bought a Logitech Harmony 525 remote. If any of the Harmony software devs come a knocking on Slim's door to offer help with slimserver, LOCK IT! This has to be the worst software i have used in a long time, makes in Sonic Stage look good. Oh dear, i worry even more now. -- autopilo

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-24 Thread dwc
Grats to Sean and the Slim crew! (When is the party?) -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 __

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-24 Thread flattop100
> [[Microsoft logoed SB3]] > > Ouch! That would indeed be much, much worse in my opinion. Then I > WOULDN'T have bought one, for sure. *sigh* Generalizations hurt everybody. I recently bought a Microsoft Natural Elite Pro Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (there's probably some other words in the title,

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread tygar
junien;147518 Wrote: > Well... we are just starting the integration. Our main focus will be on > jumpstarting sales at retail. This statement makes a huge amount of sense to me. Logitech has huge distribution and marketing channels, and as far as I know, the SqueezeBox is still distributed prim

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread Relayer35
radish;147454 Wrote: > (my Harmony 880 STILL won't charge properly because of a faulty cradle, > and support are pretty horrible to deal with) but we'll see. > Wow. I had that same problem. That was the first of two times I've had to return my Harmony 880. While the remote is great for contr

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread thing-fish
junien;147410 Wrote: > Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of > the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit. Greetings! Let me introduce myself: I've been a user of the SlimServer software for several years, loving it so much that I built a computer just to

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread bill fumerola
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:31:11AM -0700, rhymesgalore wrote: > Harry G;148941 Wrote: > > I know that Mercedes today is made by Chrysler, whose cars we also > > wouldn't buy, yet, the association doesn't bother me. Maybe because > > they're so different. > > Ouch, that hurt my german "auto" pride

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread zano65
But for the audiophiles who talk of their audio systems like they talk of fine wines, mechanical watches or art, this doesn't really work. Hello, all along this thread i keep reading how "audiophiles" like a product or don't by just looking at the brand name or the faceplate. Please stop that no

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread mrfantasy
I think I have come up with the worst case scenario. +---+ |Filename: sb3front.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1877| +---

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread Khuli
rhymesgalore;149028 Wrote: > Mercedes Cars are still made by Mercedes, here in god ol' germany. ...and Aston Martin are still made in the UK... can you imagine James Bond driving a Ford DB9? Hmmm... -- Khuli http://www.last.fm/user/khuli ---

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread rhymesgalore
Harry G;148941 Wrote: > > I know that Mercedes today is made by Chrysler, whose cars we also > wouldn't buy, yet, the association doesn't bother me. Maybe because > they're so different. Ouch, that hurt my german "auto" pride^^.. Mercedes Cars are still made by Mercedes, here in god ol' ge

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread blackbear
ezkcdude;148950 Wrote: > Much, much, much worse... [[Microsoft logoed SB3]] Ouch! That would indeed be much, much worse in my opinion. Then I WOULDN'T have bought one, for sure. I'm actually surprised that noone has made a Logitech logoed SB image yet. I guess it was just too obvious. PREDIC

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread blackbear
Tom;148975 Wrote: > > isn't Porsche just a Volkswagen (or therefore: Skoda!) with spoilers? > > > It's the same company, isn't it? > > No, two completely separate companies, who have colaborated on > occaision. > > Skoda is owned by VW, as is Audi. > > Tom Porsche owns 25% of Volkswagen and

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread bpa
This is a bit off topic first. Not completely separate - Porsche own 25% of VW (i.e. blocking rights) and F. Piech chairman of VW supervisory board owns about 12% of Porche and was CEO of VW up to 2002. Following the analogy in relation to SD. The VW Phaeton was a commercial failure - people did

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread audiofi
VW/Audi own Bugatti and Lamborghini though -- audiofi http://www.audiofi.co.uk/reviews/ audiofi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread Tom
isn't Porsche just a Volkswagen (or therefore: Skoda!) with spoilers? It's the same company, isn't it? No, two completely separate companies, who have colaborated on occaision. Skoda is owned by VW, as is Audi. Tom ___ discuss mailing list discuss

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-23 Thread Michael Herger
Human nature is a strange thing. You hit the nail on the head. For me, I'm already in the club. Unless Audio Research, Classe or Theta builds something similar, I'll probably buy a Transporter. Just please don't name it LogSqueeze. I liked your posting: while the message is the same as said

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread ezkcdude
blackbear;148919 Wrote: > Stop whining, people! ;-) > I could have been much, much worse: > (And I still would have bought one!) Much, much, much worse... +---+ |Filename: sbms.jpg

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread Harry G
Human nature is a strange thing. Before I bought my wife her last Mercedes, a car buff friend insisted we drive a Honda before making up our minds. He felt the Accord coupe was a more modern, somewhat better car than the Mercedes coupe and would save us about $8000. >From the test drive, I'll

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread blackbear
Stop whining, people! ;-) I could have been much, much worse: (And I still would have bought one!) +---+ |Filename: fp_sb3.gif | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attach

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread Jack Coates
Here here. It's "HEAR HEAR", as in "Oh my fellows, won't you unplug your ears and hark unto the clear wisdom emanating from this person who is speaking?" -- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional _

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread Yannzola
LHawes;148024 Wrote: > Just heard the news so am of course quite late to the discussion. Read > most of the posts and can see many different futures ahead for SD and > Logitech but to my mind the most likely is that Logitech will create a > good or perhaps very good music device - with a much lar

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread Yannzola
DrNic;147980 Wrote: > Well, I don't whether to be happy or sad Come to think of it I feel > it's more disappointment. > I too hope that the big company ethos doesn't bleed over into Slim > Devices, but somehow really have to try to convince myself of this. > All I ask (like most on here) is t

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread sugarmonster
There seems to be quite a lot of negativity floating around here towards logitech. My take? It's only been a few days - give it a chance! FWIW I don't think Logitech will be bad for slim. As others have pointed out, they acquired harmony a while ago and those products just keep getting stronger

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread TiredLegs
gorman;148822 Wrote: > is somebody saying that a Logitech branded Transporter would have > received worse reviews than a Slimdevices branded one? Nope, but with a Logitech brand name, it might never have been reviewed at all by the audio publications. And I have no doubt used units will have lowe

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread gorman
mauidj;148578 Wrote: > gorman, I'm sorry but I don't think it is fair of you to label people > "narrow minded" because they have an opinion.Sorry, I totally want to clarify > the difference between stating that something is "narrow minded thinking" and stating "you people are narrow minded". I d

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread SoundBoy
Wow - that made my day. Welcome Logitech. I think that is great news. It will not harm to add a bit more consumer orientied point of views to the Slim Devices Audiophile centric world. Make cash on the consumer side to support the top notch development for a little market segement. I am excited..

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread autopilot
stevieweevie;148695 Wrote: > > (*how about a portable and child friendly and child-proof squeezebox > please!) No thank you! -- autopilot *SlimServer Version:* 6.5 - Windows XP. *Amp:* Cambridge Audio 640a (living room) / Denon MD30 (bedroom). *Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef C

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread tomjtx
djfake;148744 Wrote: > Before the acquisition I could send email to supportATslimdevices.com > and was guarranteed to receive a personal reply the very next business > day. > > Now I've sent the same message three (3) times and have NOT received > any reply... > > US$20M isn't a whole lot of m

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread djfake
Before the acquisition I could send email to supportATslimdevices.com and was guarranteed to receive a personal reply the very next business day. Now I've sent the same message three (3) times and have NOT received any reply... US$20M isn't a whole lot of money for LOGI (with a market cap of US

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread danco
stevieweevie;148695 Wrote: > I was expecting something like this for the past few months as there is > no way that SD have financial clout to market their products long-term > on a worldwide basis. > > After the loss of http://www.meedio.com I was very concerned to see > this thread in the Gener

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-22 Thread stevieweevie
I was expecting something like this for the past few months as there is no way that SD have financial clout to market their products long-term on a worldwide basis. After the loss of http://www.meedio.com I was very concerned to see this thread in the General Discussion Forum. It seems my initia

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread Mitch Harding
What ends?  The unfounded doomsaying?  I sure hope so!On 10/22/06, RadioClash < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:And so it ends. --RadioClashRadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this threa

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread RadioClash
And so it ends. -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 _

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread JackOfAll
gorman;148544 Wrote: > > JackOfAll, this is not targeted specifically at you, yours is only the > last post of this kind that I can read without replying. Peace. :) Well, I'm certainly not narrow minded; I listen. As I hinted in a previous post, I socialise with audiophiles. As a direct result

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread mauidj
gorman;148544 Wrote: > At the tenth remark along this line I got fed up. What sort of narrow > minded thinking is spreading among the community? > > JackOfAll, this is not targeted specifically at you, yours is only the > last post of this kind that I can read without replying. Peace. :) gorman

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread gorman
JackOfAll;148535 Wrote: > And I agree with some of the other posters regarding the Transporter; > putting a Logitech badge on it is a very bad idea!At the tenth remark along > this line I got fed up. What sort of narrow minded thinking is spreading among the community? 5 Years ago who the heck w

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread JackOfAll
I'm surprised! Good luck to Sean and SD. I really hope that the acquisition by Logitech doesn't destroy the ethos and personality that SD had. Whilst I feel confident that Logitech can increase the sales of low-end product, I wonder how long it will be until meeting a product price point will resu

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-21 Thread Dave
Congratulations! Never thought that a mainstream company like Logitech would pay $20 million bucks for a niche producer. How much is that per unit sold? I'm pretty sure that Logitech did not aquire you to buy market power or just the technical design of your products. They could have done that th

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Mitch Harding
Even if they never release another version of Slimserver, your Transporter will continue to work.  If there are any show stopping bugs and if, for some reason, SD decides not to fix them, you can bet that the community will try to do so. I dunno -- that reasoning just doesn't make sense to me.  If

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread bahnsah
Phew...finally reached the end..30 pages and counting...could be the mother of all threads! As I sat here, listening to my 8-month old SD SB3, scrolling through 30 pages of comments on my Logitech MX laser mouse, and now typing on my Logitech MX Keyboard (both of which I actually RECEIVED a rebat

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Pale Blue Ego
No huge innovations, but plenty of very useful refinements. Why would you need a new Lexus when the old Tin Lizzie is essentially the same thing? They both have 4 wheels and can propel you to the store. -- Pale Blue Ego

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread mkozlows
docbee;148415 Wrote: > > What backs my claim (at least for me) is that I am still using a slimp3 > and I often thought of replacing it by one of the better looking, new > models (I have a sb3 in another room). Each time I think of really > replacing the slimp3 I come to the conclusion, that the

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread CatBus
docbee;148415 Wrote: > Hi, > Each time I think of really replacing the slimp3 I come to the > conclusion, that the slimp3 does the same as a new sb3 for me. So all > the "new" prodúcts in this line are just minor improved, but none of > them really opens a door to something basicaly new. If you t

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread mauidj
Mitch Harding;148414 Wrote: > Why would you hesitate to buy a Transporter due to the Logitech deal? > The > one you get will doubtless still say SD on it... > [/color] Yes I know that. SD on the front or not...no worries. ...but what will be behind it? (support, upgrades etc) That's what concer

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread gorman
CardinalFang;148311 Wrote: > Most ordinary consumers take the Volkswagen, the same way that they'll > taken an iPod and not an equally good alternative. Results actually > don't matter that much to most people and they won't do the comparison, > they'll take the brand they won't be embarassed abo

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread docbee
Hi, sorry, i still dont see that there has been any major product innovation since the slimp3. You are right, they did engeneering work on the initial product, but from my perspective just a lot of minor improvements (which were all wellcome, no doubt on this). What backs my claim (at least for

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Mitch Harding
Why would you hesitate to buy a Transporter due to the Logitech deal?  The one you get will doubtless still say SD on it...On 10/20/06, mauidj < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Personally I do fear for the core values of SD and I am currently holding my finger over the buy now button for a new Transporter

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread mauidj
nicketynick;148373 Wrote: > > Anyway, the corporate beast simply will not have the flexibility or the > focus (serving the masses takes a lot of resources) to remain on the > cutting edge of product development. It's a pretty reliable cycle - > small companies do cutting edge, get bought out whe

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
docbee;148401 Wrote: > since the really great idea of a slimp3 years ago the innovation has not > been at a noticeable high level On the contrary, between the SB1 and the SB2 they completely redid everything inside, going from an MP3 chip they bought off the shelf to something they totally contr

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Pale Blue Ego
On the contrary, I think Slim has an excellent record of innovation. The hardware has evolved, in only a few years, from something that was useful but clunky and inelegant, into a best-of-breed product which looks great, sounds great, has vastly more functionality, and is the same price as the pr

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread docbee
sorry guys, except for sean and the inner circle that benefit from the $20m this is extremly bad news. I understand that the sd management prefered to take the money instead of taking the risk of the next innovation step on their own bill. since the really great idea of a slimp3 years ago the i

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
CardinalFang;148379 Wrote: > you're just being insulting. No insult to you, Cardinal, intended. Sorry if it was taken that way. However, there is an insult going on here. The real insult that I see is the insult to the principals in the merger. Most in this thread have assumed that they, who

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Browny
CardinalFang;148379 Wrote: > I *do* expect Sean and team to leave and set up other companies at the > end of their earn-out - that's fairly typical for these situations and > is why there is an earn out. We got the products we paid for, the > company grew up and got taken over, that's the way of

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread CardinalFang
Michaelwagner;148338 Wrote: > To claim that you know, as a certainty, that this is going to be a > disaster, is whining. No it's not whining and you're just being insulting. I have no problem with whatever happens, I have my Squeezebox and I'm happy with it. I have a point of view based on exper

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Bob Bressler
First of all, congrats to the SD team! It is a challenge to find an exit strategy that preserves the value of the Intellectual Property that you have created. In my limited experience in M&A, I have learned that there are dozens of factors that determine the outcome of an acquisition. The two mo

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread nicketynick
konut;148335 Wrote: > > I look forward to the day, in 5 years, when I'll have a SB6 in my shirt > pocket. A flash based 2 terabyte device that uses QUAC( quantum > universal audio codec) files, controlled by a Harmony fob, in my pants > pocket, and viewable on the Logitech MONacle( media optical

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
> put the same spec Philips TV next to the B&O one and people go > for the badge. You're probably right, to a certain extent anyway. There are definitely some who don't care about the badge or cost, only results. And if the results can be had for fewer dollars, so much the better. A good

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
Quoting CardinalFang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: . You've just described the audiophile market :-) Again, we're back to the Slim Devices name having value. I agree that Slim Devices has earned some "street cred." Now Logitech will have the gear to bring value to their name in new markets as well

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
why are B&O and Bose so popular for example? I believe it is due to successful marketing combined with adequate performance. I'm not claiming either provide audiophile or even best-for-cost performance, but both are well-marketed and perform well enough that the majority of their customers l

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
Kevin O. Lepard;148294 Wrote: If you're not buying it because it doesn't perform, that's one thing. If you're not buying something that does perform, but because it says "Logitech" on it instead of "AUDIOPHILE EXPENSIVE BRAND X" on it (or for that matter SlimDevices), then I stand by my origi

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
konut;148335 Wrote: > I've read the 27 pages(probably 28 by the time I post this) Only 7 pages now. Did someone move 20 pages somewhere else? Or is page size different for different users? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
CardinalFang;148316 Wrote: > People like to talk about stuff. That doesn't make it pathetic No, but the whining does. Face it. We don't know what's going to happen. Logitech is a specific company, at this specific point in time, with these specific leaders, subject to these specific market tren

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread konut
I've read the 27 pages(probably 28 by the time I post this) of the hand-wringing, grousing, congrats, and various 'special interest' concerns about the Logitech acquisition, and am, for the most part, amused. I suppose that, because of my age, I see things a bit differently and prefer to look at t

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread funkstar
CardinalFang;148311 Wrote: > Most ordinary consumers take the Volkswagen, the same way that they'll > taken an iPod and not an equally good alternative. Results actually > don't matter that much to most people and they won't do the comparison, > they'll take the brand they won't be embarassed abo

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread CardinalFang
Jack Coates;148260 Wrote: > Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better things to do > than to participate in this pathetic whine fest. What are bulletin boards about except to discuss things? People like to talk about stuff. That doesn't make it pathetic, it's just human nature.

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread kdf
Quoting CardinalFang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: . You've just described the audiophile market :-) Doesn't really fit with me. Sure, it's the joke, but any company making audiophile gear had to start somewhere. Any name is made or broken on the quality of their gear. Calling yourself TacT mi

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread CardinalFang
Kevin O. Lepard;148294 Wrote: > > > >Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the > >> >service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my > hi-fi > >> >gear... > >> > >> That's just silly. > >> > > > >A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread CardinalFang
Kevin O. Lepard;148294 Wrote: > If you're not buying it because it doesn't perform, that's one thing. > If you're not buying something that does perform, but because it says > "Logitech" on it instead of "AUDIOPHILE EXPENSIVE BRAND X" on it (or > for that matter SlimDevices), then I stand by my

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
funkstar;148296 Wrote: > None of us know the details of the deal SlimDevices have done with > Logitech, so we don't know how SD will operate in the future. Right. And until we know that, if we ever know that, this is all just uninformed electrons flapping in the breeze. -- Michaelwagner -

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread funkstar
God this thread is hard to keep track of :) None of us know the details of the deal SlimDevices have done with Logitech, so we don't know how SD will operate in the future. Will they be dictated to by Logitch board? or will the be a completely seperate, but wholy owned subsidury? Everyone writi

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Mitch Harding
I agree completely.On 10/20/06, Kevin O. Lepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >  > >Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the>>  >service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi>>  >gear...  That's just silly. A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badg

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
> >Talking about pride, even if the quality of the hardware and the >service stays the same, the Logitech logo will never be near my hi-fi >gear... That's just silly. A Skoda is a Volkswagon in all but badge. Which one would you prefer on your drive? Never owned either. But if the _onl

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread elo
Shoot! I meant to post earlier, now I'm buried on page seven. Even I only read till page 3. Anyways, I wanted to add my $.02 Congrats to the SD-Team, I hope this aquisition comes as a reward for your hard work and commmitment. I'm a little worried...yada.. yada.. yada. But, I've been a big fan

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
According to the late breaking news crawler on the San Francisco Chronicle web site, a large cruise missile with the *Logitech* logo was just sighted in the air, headed south towards Mountain View. Come on, you guys! -- Michaelwagner

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Jack Coates
On 10/20/06, nicketynick <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Jetlag;148239 Wrote:>> Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their > posts?Talk about throwing down the gauntlet!  I wonder if anybody will takethe bait?Actually, I sincerely hope that both of them have better t

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread jeffluckett
> Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their > posts? They've been chained to thier desks in a cube farm somewhere and are not given internet access so that thier productivity isn't harmed by browsing and forum-posting activities. Logitech is protecting thier investm

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread Michaelwagner
Sean and Julien have both already commented and responded to several comments here. But the flood of responses here probably make it difficult to respond to them all at once. It's not like they have no other business to take care of in this acquisition. Like talking to their own staff, etc. --

Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread kdf
Quoting Jetlag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It would really be great if Sean or Junien would comment on some of the concerns that have been raised in this thread since the announcement. Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their posts? oh good lord. that's just too funn

[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!

2006-10-20 Thread nicketynick
Jetlag;148239 Wrote: > > Or has Logitech already placed limits on what they can address in their > posts? Talk about throwing down the gauntlet! I wonder if anybody will take the bait? -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC

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