MrSinatra;128891 Wrote:
this is without a doubt, the most intellectually bankrupt reply one can
have to someone who has a problem.
tell me, if i buy a new car, and they give me free this and that, and
those things break, am i not in the right to go back to the dealer and
complain just b/c
And please note also that the Slimserver is a free community project.
Not quite.
Slim Devices introduces SlimServer 6.3.1, our powerful and free Open
Source software.
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Joe Craig;131432 Wrote:
And please note also that the Slimserver is a free community project.
Not quite.
But many guys that are not paid by Slim Devices contributed a large
portion of code. But you're right - slimserver is open source but not
community only.
Ciao, Torsten
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Oh, guys, give it a rest already.
There is excellent support, from Slim Devices, for their box and their
software. If you have a problem with Slimserver, you can take it
there.
This forum is not for problem solving. It's for enthusiasts to trade
other more esoteric information. We can also
sorry mike, i was content to let it go, but this post is just too
much...
saurus;131420 Wrote:
This is a community forum. This is not the vendor support page. Here are
a lot of guys that are not paid b Slim Devices. So nobody can expect to
get support cause he paid for a Slim Device item.
MrSinatra;131530 Wrote:
the problem with your argument is:
1. Slim HOSTS the website the forum is, and reads the forum, and posts
to it.
Sorry, I don't see the relevance of this.
I used to own an audiotron. Voyetra, the people who made the audiotron,
ran a forum for enthusiasts. Here you
Michaelwagner;131554 Wrote:
Sorry, I don't see the relevance of this.
I used to own an audiotron. Voyetra, the people who made the audiotron,
ran a forum for enthusiasts. Here you go, here's some disk space and a
forum to talk amongst yourselfs. It was very clear, as it is very clear
I think, Mr. Sinatra, that you're missing an important point.
He didn't take the car back to the dealer.
We told him several times to call support at slim.
He came (in your analogy) to a car club or a swap meet, a group of
enthusiasts anyways, and complained. We thought he was looking for
Mike,
thats kool and the gang. i respect your opinion, i know you respect
mine, (even tho we may disagree) but i'm more than content to leave it
lay here, then to reiterate my feelings.
thx, -mdw
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For what it's worth, here are my rescanning numbers:
All my music is MP3 with proper tags (no embedded artwork though),
there's more or less 80% of my collection that has album artwork
contained in a single cover.jpg file per directory.
17666 songs, 1311 albums, 656 artists, 9 playlists (!)
For
MrSinatra wrote:
just wanted to add i did a clear and rescan twice today... the first
time it hung for no apparent reason, the second time it didn't.
i don't have any debug stuff enabled so i can't post a log... but
since this isn't that important to me, i don't feel the need to bother,
altho
OK, how about we all take a big step back and a deep breath.
No one is talking moral authority, he's not the OP, he basically said
it doesn't bother him enough to go to the trouble of collecting and
posting logs.
That's a valid thing to say and do, surely.
If your toaster burns the toast once
thx Mike, perfect summation of my thoughts exactly.
and i will reiterate what was seemingly tho incomprehensibly missed,
(paraphrasing):
i will enable the debug and post the logs, IF anyone really wants me
to.
part of the reason i'm not too concerned, is that i gather 6.5 is
nearly done, and
Michaelwagner Wrote:
I thought the first post *was* offensive.
Mike, i respect your posts and opinion, but seriously, you're offended
by what he said in the first post?
if this:
Inv Wrote:
I suggest that the Slimserver dev team give this job to someone other
than the summer intern.
MrSinatra Wrote:
Mike, i respect your posts and opinion, but seriously, you're offended
by what he said in the first post?
Had it been my code, yes, I would have found it offensive.
Since it isn't my code, I didn't personally react to it, no.
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just wanted to add i did a clear and rescan twice today... the first
time it hung for no apparent reason, the second time it didn't.
i don't have any debug stuff enabled so i can't post a log... but
since this isn't that important to me, i don't feel the need to bother,
altho i will if anyone
Hi guys, I'm still using 6.2.2, and I'll admit that I've had a few
run-ins with the library scan. It wasn't consistently scanning. I
discovered that (in my case), to guarantee that the scan will work I
need to not be connected to my squeezebox. Having discovered that, I
now don't have any
On 8/16/06, fingers wrote:
actually yes it does! I run SlimServer on multiple machines. All
the machines are a minimum of 2.8GHz up to 3.06GHz. All my machines
have 1GB of RAM and large hard drives with more than enough space
remaining on each drive. Everyone of my machines not only
Michaelwagner Wrote:
Well, that's definitely not normal.
I don't run XP on my normal machine, but I have run Slimserver on an
XP pro laptop, and it was fine. So let's put XP aside for a second.
What jumps out at me after that is running multiple Slimservers. Might
I ask why? I have done
inv Wrote:
Well, I had to check in on you guys.. ;)
Could somebody please tell me where I asked for help? My intention was
to let whoever made the scan process know that it has the possibilty of
freezing at 99% for hours and hours.
So sorry, our mistake. In that case, follow the
...or go to a shrink.
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fingers Wrote:
- Might I ask why?: I have 4 devices. 2 run off one of my machines
at home. 2 others run off 2 other machines in different locations at
the office.
Ah, so they aren't all running on the same network. I misunderstood.
- Slim.exe is pegging the CPU per Task Manager.
-
Michaelwagner Wrote:
That's factually incorrect. He wrote:
after saying that the quality of the code was such that it had to have
been written by an intern. I think the implication is clear.
no, its not factually incorrect. his first post starting the thread
was the one he got jumped
I'll just interrupt this little share-fest for one more attempt at
asking for logs. As this thread, like so many others, is
long-digressed from its original purpose, please consider mailing logs
(using my previously posted debug options) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for 6.3. They can then file a bug
dumb question[s]:
where do you find the logs? are they always being made? do you have
to enable debug stuff? are there multiple logs? do they autodelete
after a time?
and i prefer sloppy kisses.
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Oh no, I've got mailing list replies that are connected to the wrong threads
again. Damn forum users.
I can see that the message-ID header item has been made bigger than it used
to be, but sadly it's still not unique. As a result, a reply can end up
threaded to some other message, and
dwc Wrote:
I think DaveP is on to it. If you simply moved your music library
including playlists, you may have in effect just broken your playlists.
Hi there, my Linux box is also very slow scanning (I only have 3200
files, scan can take up to a day ~12 hrs ) do playlists (I've never
I thought the first post *was* offensive.
In any case, let's skip the netiquette and get to the heart of it.
Where your logs are depends on what system you're running.
For a windows system, KDF posted the answer some number of replies
back.
server settings-debugging
start with d_import,
On 8/16/06, MrSinatra wrote:
Michaelwagner Wrote:
That's factually incorrect. He wrote:
after saying that the quality of the code was such that it had to have
been written by an intern. I think the implication is clear.
no, its not factually incorrect. his first post starting the thread
On 16-Aug-06, at 12:16 AM, MrSinatra wrote:
dumb question[s]:
where do you find the logs?
Windows:
c:\program files\slimserver\server\slim.exe --logfile c:\mylog.txt
or a view of the live log at http://serverIP:9000/log.txt
Linux RPM:
/tmp/slimserver.log
OSX:
MrSinatra wrote:
well, he directed his insult at the slim server dev team, not people
here, and it wasn't an insult, it was a complaint, lets not be so thin
skinned.
Actually, a fair number of the folks who post here *are*
responsible for the code in one small place or another.
geoffb Wrote:
On 8/16/06, MrSinatra wrote:[color=blue]
If you want to rant, do it at your spouse or significant other.
Cheers
Geoff
Wow! Sounds like you must have a terrific relationship with your
spouse or significant other ;)
For whatever it's worth, I have experienced scan issues
fingers Wrote:
The thing that I don't like is that when scanning it can completely peg
the CPU. My box is a 3.06GHZ proc, 1GB Ram and 2 250GB HDs. So, it
amazes me that it does that.
It's hard to make intelligent comments on this performance without more
information.
How many tracks? What
Michaelwagner Wrote:
It's hard to make intelligent comments on this performance without more
information.
How many tracks? What format are they in? What version of the server
are you running?
For comparison, I have about 8500 tracks, all MP3, 1.8GHz processor,
512MB Ram. My library is
fingers Wrote:
2x250MB hard drives.
I assume you mean GB?
923 Albums / 11374 songs by 554 artists
File format: MP3 320KB
I haven't tried 6.3 yet, but based on my experience (I also use 320KB
MP3s) that should scan in less than half an hour.
How long does it take?
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Well, I had to check in on you guys.. ;)
Could somebody please tell me where I asked for help? My intention was
to let whoever made the scan process know that it has the possibilty of
freezing at 99% for hours and hours.
I might have gone out on a ledge when i said that my system was the
Sigh ...
Almost everything you told us, in flamebait and now more calmly, is
already known.
You could have found this out yourself with a little light reading.
Slimserver is written in perl. Whether you are a perl fan or not,
that's the language it's written in. Warts and all.
perl did not
Michaelwagner Wrote:
I assume you mean GB?
I haven't tried 6.3 yet, but based on my experience (I also use 320KB
MP3s) that should scan in less than half an hour.
How long does it take?
Yup... GB
Sometimes a couple hours
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Michaelwagner Wrote:
Sigh ...
Almost everything you told us, in flamebait and now more calmly, is
already known.
You could have found this out yourself with a little light reading.
Slimserver is written in perl. Whether you are a perl fan or not,
that's the language it's written in.
Well, I decided to rescan my library.
So far it's running about 80% CPU (on a machine half the speed of
yours, and half the memory).
I have 100MB of free physical RAM while the scan is running.
OK. It just finished. 15 minutes for 8752 songs by 2264 artists.
During that time, I checked my
fingers Wrote:
I run SlimServer on multiple machines. All the machines are a minimum
of 2.8GHz up to 3.06GHz. All my machines have 1GB of RAM and large
hard drives with more than enough space remaining on each drive.
Everyone of my machines not only pegs the CPU when scanning. But also
When SlimServer is idle, it uses 0% and once every 10 seconds or so 2%,
on an otherwise idle machine. When scanning, and nothing else is
happening on the machine, why shouldn't slim.exe use close to 100% of
the CPU cycles? Why waste them on the System Idle Process? This is of
course regardless of
How can you be sure it's slimserver at fault, and not a configuration
issue your end as already pointed out?
I run slimserver on a linkstation, which is only 266Mhz and 64MB ram,
yet it works fine.
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dwc Wrote:
I think DaveP is on to it. If you simply moved your music library
including playlists, you may have in effect just broken your playlists.
I'm sure that's the answer, however I also think it's legitimate to ask
why the scanning process doesn't recover gracefully from such an error.
On 15-Aug-06, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Dixon wrote:
dwc Wrote:
I think DaveP is on to it. If you simply moved your music library
including playlists, you may have in effect just broken your
playlists.
I'm sure that's the answer, however I also think it's legitimate to ask
why the scanning
kdf Wrote:
On 15-Aug-06, at 8:27 AM, Patrick Dixon wrote:
dwc Wrote:
I think DaveP is on to it. If you simply moved your music
library
including playlists, you may have in effect just broken your
playlists.
I'm sure that's the answer, however I also think it's legitimate to
This thread seems to be getting perilously close to a small bugbear I
have.
I add a playlist from my computer upstairs and would ideally like to go
downstairs to listen to the playlist instantly on my hifi. I can't
though because SlimServer insists on scanning all my files when I just
add one
On 8/15/06, ModelCitizen wrote:
This thread seems to be getting perilously close to a small bugbear I
have.
I add a playlist from my computer upstairs and would ideally like to go
downstairs to listen to the playlist instantly on my hifi. I can't
though because SlimServer insists on scanning
Yes I have, but it's still humungously slow...probabably because I have
existing playlists that reference large amounts of my existing music
library.
I don't understand why scanning a new playlist means that SlimServer is
required to scan all the music that any existing playlist references.
pfarrell Wrote:
How much did you pay for the server software?
this is without a doubt, the most intellectually bankrupt reply one can
have to someone who has a problem.
tell me, if i buy a new car, and they give me free this and that, and
those things break, am i not in the right to go back
MrSinatra wrote:
Inv, not everyone thinks you're wrong. i can see where the elders here
could get tired of complaints or repeated questions, but i don't see why
you should be ganged up on b/c of it.
I'm quite sympathetic to his cause - even WITH the error logs
turned
well said.
have u tried a newer version tho? i find with most software, upgrading
is mostly safe, and the newer features and bug fixes are nice.
also, until i got newer firmware, internet streams wouldn't play nice
for me for long periods, so it was really necessary, don't u run into
that?
MrSinatra Wrote:
you guys are often way too hard on noobs, it simply isn't cool. i think
you guys get off on it.
Actually I believe people here are very good with newbies. They are
hard on people that insult the very people who can help them, and
they're certainly justified in doing so.
well, i hear you guys, and i'm not saying you're wrong, its your opinion
/ pov and thats fine, but seriously, if i buy something, lets say a
rocking chair, and it wobbles more than it rocks, i might go to the
manufacturer, and give them the business instead of more business, if
you get me...
i
MrSinatra Wrote:
well said.
have u tried a newer version tho?
Yes, I run 6.2.2 on my home system.
But my DJ system uses features they removed in 6.
i find with most software, upgrading is mostly safe, and the newer
features and bug fixes are nice.
I trust no upgrades, from no one.
Let's get a few things straight here.
This is not the official support channel for Squeezeboxes. That is very
clearly support at slimdevices dot com.
They're paid for it, they have the best data about what routers work
with what, etc. They're authorized to handle returns for defective
units,
well, he directed his insult at the slim server dev team, not people
here, and it wasn't an insult, it was a complaint, lets not be so thin
skinned.
he was attacked, not the other way around.
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That's factually incorrect. He wrote:
And I'm guessing that you did write the code
after saying that the quality of the code was such that it had to have
been written by an intern. I think the implication is clear.
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On 8/15/06, Michaelwagner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
after saying that the quality of the code was such that it had to have
been written by an intern. I think the implication is clear.
As an intern myself (although not at Slim Devices!), I resent that
implication. :)
- Jacob
Er, that slight against interns... maybe implication isn't quite the right word.
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inv Wrote:
I simply moved the files to another folder and started a rescan?
Could it be that the playlists still point to the original folder
location? That would probably cause the effect you are seeing and
account for why it worked ok before.
davep
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I just wanted to state what the other posts haven't: there are hundreds
if not thousands of people using 6.3.1 and having no trouble with the
scan procedure (other than it being a little slow, but 600 files
shouldn't take more than a minute I wouldn't think). Thus, the
original poster's
I think DaveP is on to it. If you simply moved your music librbary
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inv Wrote:
What the hell is wrong?
I'd offer to help, but I'm only an intern.
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Ben Sandee : I do actually. Both because of what I wrote, and because
slim.exe just got the old kill command. ;)
mherger: Should it matter if my musicfolder contains shortcuts and
playlists? And to answere the question..no shortcuts, some playlists.
In other words, nothing unusual.
kdf: So, did
Why don't you try using the debug techniques at your disposal before
you start slinging insults.
server settings-debugging
start with d_import, d_scan, d_parse.
d_info is another one to look at if you want to watch the entire
content to tags.
the log is available from a link in the
Well, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but for the price i payed for
the device i would expect it to work. Afterall, the scan is a pretty
important part of the system. And hey, everything else works great.
With some exceptions I think its a good product.
And I'm guessing that you did write the
inv wrote:
Well, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings,
Bull, it was intentional flame bait.
but for the price i payed for
the device i would expect it to work.
How much did you pay for the server software?
Did you try it before you bought the hardware?
You did realize that you can test the
As i said...I do like the product, i just thing that the 6.3.1 scan
procedure is totally useless.
So your saying that I shouldnt be allowed to demand that the server
(which in deed is free) works..which the device depends on to do what
it promises to do (play my mp3s). No server, no mp3s on my
On 13-Aug-06, at 11:03 AM, inv wrote:
Well, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings,
you didn't. what you did do, is show your troll skin before doing
proper research. This says more about you than anything you have
claimed about myself or anyone else you think is somehow grouped with
me.
On 13-Aug-06, at 11:24 AM, inv wrote:
As i said...I do like the product, i just thing that the 6.3.1 scan
procedure is totally useless.
subjective claim, based on sample set of 1.
Thus, the claim is baseless.
Please take some time with previously given instructions or contact
[EMAIL
The only thing i know is that i spent £ 200 on a device. I download the
latest server (which the manual clearly states). And it doesnt even
work on perfect conditions.
This is supposed to be a consumer product. You cant expect that people
switch to debug mode to trace your mistakes. Or download
stinkingpig said:
The software's behavior indicates a loop... you probably have a
playlist or
a shortcut which is causing it to circle around like a dog chasing its
tail.
Use a debug flag to find the problem, and fix it.
Okey. So why did it work the first time around? I simply moved the
files to
I'll take the bait...
And it doesnt even work on perfect conditions.
I somehow can't believe that your machine is perfect conditions.
There are many customers using 6.3.1 (probably quite a few using imperfect
conditions), and most have not reported major scanning issues.
It is more likely
inv Wrote:
And it doesnt even work on perfect conditions.
Obviously not perfect conditions or it would have worked without issue
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