Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-08 Thread Cyrille Moureaux
Hi Armin, And it's nice to see you back :) thanks - though I even have hardly time for lurking Let me get this straight, you don't have time for lurking, what with royally observing solar physics and such, and yet you choose to involve yourself in such a constructive discussion about

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-08 Thread Rigel
I might have a wrong view here. But I feel that reserving idle personal chatter should be kept to personal e-mails as much as heated debate about individuals. Does anyone else agree with this? Should we attemp to work this into the platform of the list, to an extent? Just to clean it up a bit of

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-08 Thread Cyrille Moureaux
Hi Rigel, I might have a wrong view here. But I feel that reserving idle personal chatter should be kept to personal e-mails as much as heated debate about individuals. Does anyone else agree with this? Should we attemp to work this into the platform of the list, to an extent? Just to clean it

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 20:48 +1300, Michael Adams wrote: I've had a look at the easter eggs today and they are a lot naff. They wouldn't hold modern kids attention for long. You have to realise this is the PS2/XBox generation. Precisely. No great marketing benefit to kids except that they

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Steven Pauwels
Chad Smith schreef: On 2/6/06, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, one short then: The isue is about OOo without Easter eggs is more trustworthy. So software without (known) Easter eggs is trustworthy? I've never had a problem trusting software with easter eggs. I've never

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Chad Smith
On 2/6/06, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, one short then: The isue is about OOo without Easter eggs is more trustworthy. So software without (known) Easter eggs is trustworthy? I've never had a problem trusting software with easter eggs. I've never known of any large piece of

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Chad Smith
Hi Henrik, On 2/6/06, Henrik Sundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If You chose not to use OOo due to its Easter eggs, which word processor do You recommend then? Here's what I found at www.eggheaven2000.com: 55: Encarta 95 Encarta 95 Group Photo egg 56: Encarta World Atlas 95

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 15:14 +, C Cichocki wrote: Sigrid Kronenberger wrote: That's quite easy: Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls! Go to Calc and type:

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread James Walker
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 15:14 +, C Cichocki wrote: Sigrid Kronenberger wrote: That's quite easy: Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls!

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Lars D . Noodén
The issue in the bug tracker is found here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61685 Previously, every time the issue have been brought up, it's been closed within a very short time. -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents endanger the legal

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 11:06 -0500, James Walker wrote: With all the discussions on code bloat wouldn't all of these Easter Eggs add to that problem. How much code do these things add to the overall size of OOo and will removing them help bring that down just a bit. It will make some

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread James Walker
Ian Lynch wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 11:06 -0500, James Walker wrote: With all the discussions on code bloat wouldn't all of these Easter Eggs add to that problem. How much code do these things add to the overall size of OOo and will removing them help bring that down just a bit.

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Armin, Armin Theissen wrote: Hi, I used to work for OOo and Gnome at SUN until about 3 years ago, and one of my (many) jobs was to find and patch out easter eggs from the Gnome desktop. And it's nice to see you back :) Kind regards Sophie

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-07 Thread Armin Theissen
Sophie Gautier wrote: And it's nice to see you back :) thanks - though I even have hardly time for lurking -- -- Armin Theissen +32 (0)2 373.05.14 Royal Observatory of Belgium -

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Rigel wrote: could be a troll chad. Easter egg or no easter egg their voice is just as relevant as yours or anyone elses. Let the guy have a life. Rigel On 2/5/06, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is ridiculus. Who cares if there's an easter egg? It doesn't hurt anything. Gesh.

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Cor Nouws
C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls! Cor -- Cor Nouws www.nouenoff.nl - www.bsooo.nl - http://nl.openoffice.org Open. For business. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
That's quite easy: Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls! Go to Calc and type: =Game(StarWars) or =Game(A1:C3;TicTacToe) and have a lot of fun with these two games :) When you type =StarCalcTeam() you see a photo

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same problem as commercial softwares. One of the argument for the open source software is, this

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Armin Theissen
Hi, I used to work for OOo and Gnome at SUN until about 3 years ago, and one of my (many) jobs was to find and patch out easter eggs from the Gnome desktop. The philosophy was that easter-eggs should never harm anything or anybody (the computer its running on, or any person or organisation

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Nicu Buculei
Steven Pauwels wrote: Very funny indeed... and I really hope there are no business-prospects reading this list... This is ecactly the thing that works against you! How about confidence... Is it not hard enough to break trough the barrier set by MS is it is? Confidence should be one of our

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
Hi Lars, Lars D. Noodén [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I expect, that you're not successful with your bugreport. :( I've included some of your comments in the bug report: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61667 You can vote for it here:

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 15:16 +0100, Sigrid Kronenberger wrote: Hi Lars, Lars D. Noodén [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I expect, that you're not successful with your bugreport. :( I've included some of your comments in the bug report:

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Armin Theissen
Lars D. Noodén wrote: binary is not a reasonable nor realistic option. There needs to be a way to disable them or else just drop them. maybe drop them in the binary release, and enable switching them in when building from source (for those who insist...) a.

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
There are a lot of Easter eggs in MSO, but there's no reason OOo should have them in the release version, so I've submitted a bug report. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61667 Apologies if it is a duplicate report, but the search interface for the bugs is, um, less

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
I've included some of your comments in the bug report: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61667 You can vote for it here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/showvotes.cgi?voteon=61667 -Lars Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software patents endanger the legal

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
It's open, at least for a few more minutes, but with a new number: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61683 However, we will have to circumvent the behavioral problems exhibited by developer pjanik in order to at least discuss the bug. 54703 is a query about the nature

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Lars D . Noodén
That sounds like a good option. I can't find a way to CC between the discuss list and the bug reporter. The discussion needs to be parallel: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61683 or http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61685 -Lars Lars Nooden

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Chad Smith
Why does this matter? The very nature of an easter egg is that you have to hunt to find them. I've never seen a corporate exec demand the removal of an office suite for the presence of an easter egg. This is pointless. There are people who like them, and it's much more trouble than it's worth

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
Nicu Buculei schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: IMHO, it will take a hard-headed, thick-skinned, persistent fool to try and get the OOo community to wise up. Right now you people leave a very closed and unfriendly impression on anyone trying to help :) But hey, who am I to say so... I saw

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Steven Pauwels wrote: [snip] Well, I hope I get trough to someone here... Will I have to continue starting discussions on things that bug people or will someone finally sit down and think about the furure of OOo? Your choise. And ours to spend time on it. Or not. Greetings, Cor -- Cor

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 14:13 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote: Maybe I should use the egg to market OOo... 'hey boss, if I am tired of working, I can play starwars :):)' Or kids in school? On the one hand it might be useful to have an Easter Egg to catch attention but in schools this type of thing

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 09:53 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: Why does this matter? The very nature of an easter egg is that you have to hunt to find them. It matters in the schools market because once found it goes round like wildfire and if its easy to do it kids will do it. Some simply to annoy the

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software (free Money Challenge)

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Sigrid Kronenberger wrote: That's quite easy: Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls! Go to Calc and type: =Game(StarWars) or =Game(A1:C3;TicTacToe) and have a lot of fun with these two games

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Sigrid Kronenberger wrote: That's quite easy: Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: C Cichocki wrote: How do you access this egg.. I fancy a game Yes, pls! Go to Calc and type: =Game(StarWars) or =Game(A1:C3;TicTacToe) and have a lot of fun with these two games

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Steven Pauwels wrote: Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same problem as commercial softwares. One of the argument for the open

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Chad Smith
I think we may have stumbled upon a way to make some money for OOo. The Easter Egg StarWars game is actually called StarWars Galaxy - sound familiar? This easter egg has been in there for over 5 years. We could sue LucasArts for stealing the name of our game! BTW, it's a fun Space Invaders

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same problem as commercial softwares. One of the

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 10:29 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: I think we may have stumbled upon a way to make some money for OOo. The Easter Egg StarWars game is actually called StarWars Galaxy - sound familiar? This easter egg has been in there for over 5 years. We could sue LucasArts for stealing

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same problem as commercial

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread C Cichocki
Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: Emmanuel Mortier schreef: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Robert Derman
Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: huge snip Hi Chris, Think you kwow what I mean: try and keep a friendly tone to your posts, even if you do not agree, even if you are giving criticism on someone. Its more fun that way :-P btw, I am

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
Robert Derman schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: C Cichocki schreef: huge snip Hi Chris, Think you kwow what I mean: try and keep a friendly tone to your posts, even if you do not agree, even if you are giving criticism on someone. Its more

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Henrik Sundberg
make it my mission to personally visit Mr. Gates to say that excel does not have all components a good spreadsheet should have... it lacks arcade gaming... or did they take it to the X-box? No need, to visit Mr. Gates, his software is already full of easter-eggs. So they really are

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Steven Pauwels wrote: Or join the discussion. helps more then just saying we need to lighten up :) OK, one short then: The isue is about OOo without Easter eggs is more trustworthy. So software without (known) Easter eggs is trustworthy? My prospects áre more serious. Cor -- Cor Nouws

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Steven Pauwels
Cor Nouws schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: Or join the discussion. helps more then just saying we need to lighten up :) OK, one short then: The isue is about OOo without Easter eggs is more trustworthy. So software without (known) Easter eggs is trustworthy? My prospects áre more serious.

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 08:04 +1000, Tim Fairchild wrote: What a pointless thread. I never even know the easter eggs were there... And they don't seem to stop OOo doing what it does... That's what I thought until I stopped and considered the market I work in. There is definitely a possible

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 19:48 +0100, Henrik Sundberg wrote: make it my mission to personally visit Mr. Gates to say that excel does not have all components a good spreadsheet should have... it lacks arcade gaming... or did they take it to the X-box? No need, to visit Mr. Gates, his

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Adams
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:33:02 + Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 19:48 +0100, Henrik Sundberg wrote: make it my mission to personally visit Mr. Gates to say that excel does not have all components a good spreadsheet should have... it lacks arcade gaming... or

[discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-05 Thread Emmanuel Mortier
Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the openoffice calc. It's a pity to fall down on the same problem as commercial softwares. One of the argument for the open source software is, this program do what he says to

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-05 Thread Chad Smith
This is ridiculus. Who cares if there's an easter egg? It doesn't hurt anything. Gesh. get a life, man. Dang. On 2/5/06, Emmanuel Mortier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir, During our last meeting of the Liege Linux Team (LiLiT), a member shows me the game starwar available on the

Re: [discuss] very disappointed to see easter-egg in a free-software

2006-02-05 Thread Rigel
could be a troll chad. Easter egg or no easter egg their voice is just as relevant as yours or anyone elses. Let the guy have a life. Rigel On 2/5/06, Chad Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is ridiculus. Who cares if there's an easter egg? It doesn't hurt anything. Gesh. get a life, man.