Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 06:50:28PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] > > Hi KatolaZ, > > There are two initrd's in the iso of 32 bits: > > initrd_devuan.img (6,8 MiB) > initrd_devuan_micro.img (6,1 MiB) > > I suppose that the first one is superfluous. Isn't it? > Hi Aitor, thanks a lot for spo

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió: Hi Aitor, thanks a lot for spotting that:) Indeed, we are using only initrd_devuan_micro.img at the moment. I have checked that the amd64 version does not have it, and I will remove the unneeded one from the i386 image. Since it is xz-ed, this will r

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 08:05:18PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > > El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió: > >Hi Aitor, > > > >thanks a lot for spotting that:) Indeed, we are using only > >initrd_devuan_micro.img at the moment. I have checked that the amd64 > >version does not have it, and I wi

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

Hi, I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but nothing happened. Edward On 23/05/2016, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 08:05:18PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: >> >> >> El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió: >> >Hi Aitor, >> > >> >thanks a lot for spotting that

Re: [DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- Update

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:12:00AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I downloaded Devuan 1.0 Jessie Minimal Beta Live and tried startx but > nothing happened. > eheheh! "minimal" means "contains only the essential stuff in the smallest possible amount of space". Hence you will find a consol

[DNG] Devuan Minimal Live Images -- new release

Dear Devuaners, a new release of the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live Images is available. You get more or less the same stuff you had on the previous release, namely: minimal disk footprint (about 256 MB); minimal RAM requirements (64MB on i386, 74MB on amd64); a full-monty console desktop experien

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

Awesome thanks! Ozi On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Greg Olsen wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've been a lurker on this list since almost the very beginning, and this > is my first post. > > I very much appreciate the work that's being done by everyone here with > Devuan, and I thought it would be goo

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 12:55:42AM -0400, Greg Olsen wrote: > I very much appreciate the work that's being done by everyone here with > Devuan, and I thought it would be good to give back in some way. > > This is a little something for those who use, or want to use, Devuan LXC > containers. > > R

Re: [DNG] Devuan LXC Template: lxc-devuan

On 2016-06-13 09:42, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Appears to work for me. > > If you think the template is done, please submit it upstream: > https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/contribute/ > Hi Adam, Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm glad it worked for you! I just pushed an update with config to

[DNG] Devuan discussion on SVLUG mailing list

Hi all, There's a protracted, and naturally hot, Devuan discussion on the mailing list of Silicon Valley Linux User Group. See the thread startig here: http://lists.svlug.org/archives/svlug/2016-July/062070.html Hope you enjoy it. SteveT Steve Litt July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Tec

[DNG] Devuan: lean and easy on resources!

Hi All, Checking how much memory was in use on my new Devuan ASCII/CERES installation had in store a very pleasant surprise. a) with only a terminal running and X NOT running, memory in use totalled 63 Mega Bytes. b) with firefox running under XFCE, the memory use was 337 Mega Bytes. Thanks to a

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Thank you and the whole community for this. I feel this distribution is crucial to the future of freedom of choice in Linux. There are of course other sans-systemd distros, but IMHO this one has the potential to have the greatest, most widespread impact in the battle to maintain Linux freedom. I'

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Sorry: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/home On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Emiliano Marini < emilianomarin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Of course: > > https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/homeç > > ;) > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Dan

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Of course: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/homeç ;) On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > Quoting Clarke Sideroad : > > Thank you and the whole community for this. >> I feel this distribution is crucial to the future of freedom of choice >> in Li

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Quoting Clarke Sideroad : Thank you and the whole community for this. I feel this distribution is crucial to the future of freedom of choice in Linux. Agreed, I couldn't have said it better myself. There are of course other sans-systemd distros, but IMHO this one has the potential to have t

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Quoting Emiliano Marini : Sorry: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/home Brilliant! Thanks! Must've missed it in my perusal of the info. Looks like there were only about 45 things that needed updated here. Just to make sure I've not made a mess of things (be

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

I trust this is not recommanded to upgrade from a Debian Testing system using “Ascii” in the source list Have a nice day Philippe Le mer. 30 nov. 2016 à 14:53, Dan Purgert a écrit : Quoting Emiliano Marini : Sorry: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/home Bril

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 08:53:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > Just to make sure I've not made a mess of things (been a while since > I've done the debian-style inplace update), someone mind > double-checking the result of my dist-upgrade / sources.list? Looks good to me. Greg -- web site: htt

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

On 11/30/2016 05:24 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 08:53:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Just to make sure I've not made a mess of things (been a while since >> I've done the debian-style inplace update), someone mind >> double-checking the result of my dist-upgrade / source

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

For those who haven't noticed yet: The Beta2 has hit slashdot (via theregister.co.uk), low level pillow fight included. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/12/04/0142242/devuans-systemd-free-linux-hits-beta-2 Libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Yes, it's cute but sad to see all those defensive systemd-ers making their usual nonsense fuss. Ralph. Florian Zieboll wrote on 05/12/16 05:31: For those who haven't noticed yet: The Beta2 has hit slashdot (via theregister.co.uk), low level pillow fight included. https://linux.slashdot.org/s

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

It pains me to say this, but the installation program for Devuan Beta2 is seriously broken. And I say this not as some kind of troll, but rather as a Devuan enthusiast who has already been running Devuan as my main system for six months. The whole problem is getting networking set up either during

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

I wrote: > Refracta saved the day! Thank goodness it exists, or else I would > not be able to install Devuan on any of my machines. Please note > that with Refracta, I did not need to set up networking at all > during the installation, but Wicd was there on the first boot and > getting wifi workin

Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

On 12/04/2016 10:26 PM, Robert Storey wrote: > I wrote: > >> Refracta saved the day! Thank goodness it exists, or else I would >> not be able to install Devuan on any of my machines. Please note >> that with Refracta, I did not need to set up networking at all >> during the installation, but Wicd

[DNG] Devuan on a qemu VM guest

Hi all, By the time you take into account host OS distro and hardware, every setup is unique. For those whose situation is anything like mine, running Devuan as a Qemu guest VM is difficult. So let me tell you two must-know difficulties I've learned, and the workaround for each: 1. Mouse pointer

Re: [DNG] Devuan 1.0 RC and DistroWatch

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > How can you advertise to Devuan 1.0 RC in DistroWatch? the release canidate is not yet out. I will be announced on tuesday. Distrowatch journalists pick up regularly on our announcements which are circulated via the official devian-announce ma

[DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

Dear Init Freedom Lovers, Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! Our April 2017 gift to you is the long-awaited release of Devuan Jessie stable release candidate (1.0.0-RC). If all goes as planned, this will be our first Devuan stable release and our first long term support (LTS) release

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

YEAH! On 05/25/2017 07:21 PM, Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > Many of you might remember November 2014 when we announced that > we were going to fork Debian. Well, we have done exactly that. It > has been a long process

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

Congratulations! A few months ago I had concluded the project was moribund, if not almost dead. Nice way to prove me wrong. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0n

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On 5/25/17, Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Many of you might remember November 2014 when we announced that > we were going to fork Debian. Well, we have done exactly that. It > has been a long process, but now over two years later, we proudly > present Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 Stable. I'm really, reall

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On 2017-05-25 15:27, Nate Bargmann wrote: Congratulations! A few months ago I had concluded the project was moribund, if not almost dead. Nice way to prove me wrong. - Nate If you had been in the trenches with us you would have concluded otherwise. Feel free to jump in for the ASCII rid

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

Awesome, and great news! The torrent is downloading as I type, and I plan to seed all of it 24/7. Thanks to all those who made Jessie possible. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts l

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

Congratulations to all involved. Torrent download went well(under 1hr 15mins ​ via cable​ ) for all files(lots of peers). Seeding now. At the current rate I should bump my ratio up(again). I'll take that as a good sign. DistroWatch was quick to post the update. Again, c

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 20:21 +0200, Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! Thanks a lot for your effort on this release, jessie. I'm really looking forward to the next, ascii. I will definitely be part of the packaging team by then

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

Huzzah! Well done on the stable release.   On Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:21 PM, Veteran Unix Admins wrote:   Dear Init Freedom Lovers, Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! Many of you might remember November 2014 when we announced that we were going to fork Debian. Well, we have done

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:57:49PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 5/25/17, Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > Many of you might remember November 2014 when we announced that > > we were going to fork Debian. Well, we have done exactly that. It > > has been a long process, but now over two years l

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On 5/26/17, KatolaZ wrote: >> I'm really, really disappointed as no fixes from >> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170509.130756.f871600a.en.html >> are in. ... > Anyone is more than welcome to contribute patches or new sanitised > packages following that workflow. Just please double-check

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:21:26 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > > Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > Many of you might remember November 2014 when we announced that > we were going to fork Debian. Well, we have done exactly that. It > has been a long

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

> On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:21:26 +0200 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, (...) > > It has been a long process, but now over two years later, we proudly > > present Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 Stable. I consider myself fortunate to have a stable Linux distribution based on Debian

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS]

Congratulations! -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

Le 26/05/2017 à 17:56, Joel Roth a écrit : On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:21:26 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: Dear Init Freedom Lovers, (...) It has been a long process, but now over two years later, we proudly present Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 Stable. I consider myself fortunate to have a stable Linu

Re: [DNG] Devuan 1.0 with Linux Pro

On Monday 10 July 2017 at 10:04:59, KatolaZ wrote: > Via @jaromil > > http://www.sparkhaus-shop.com/uk/magazines/linux-magazine-linux-pro-magazin > e/eh30201.html# I'm pretty sure Devuan is on that DVD because of the article about Devuan in the German lanugage version of the magazine: https://

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

You understand German pretty well, It is time to correct the Wiki on all issues concerning Devuan. I can only guess what kind of fanboy wrote the Wiki on this issue. I better remain silent on this. Bye ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mail

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

dear Michael, On Tue, 19 Dec 2017, Michael Siegel wrote: > 1. > The intro paragraph says: > "Erklärtes Ziel ist es, nicht den umstrittenen systemd-Dienst als > 'init'-Prozess fest vorzugeben, sondern die Wahl des init-Prozesses dem > Anwender zu überlassen und ein möglichst breites Spektrum an >

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Am 19.12.2017 um 10:23 schrieb Jaromil: > > dear Michael, > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017, Michael Siegel wrote: > >> 1. >> The intro paragraph says: >> "Erklärtes Ziel ist es, nicht den umstrittenen systemd-Dienst als >> 'init'-Prozess fest vorzugeben, sondern die Wahl des init-Prozesses dem >> Anwende

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Le 19/12/2017 à 18:08, Michael Siegel a écrit : The point I was trying to make there, was that the way the article states those facts is misleading, not that they are actually untrue. It just really provokes the question "So, why use Devuan at all?" in kind of a strange way. And as a whole, it gi

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 19/12/2017 à 18:08, Michael Siegel a écrit : > > The point I was trying to make there, was that the way the article > > states those facts is misleading, not that they are actually untrue. It > > just really provokes the question "So, why use Devuan at

Re: [DNG] Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On 20.12.17 10:08, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Bundling various functionalities associated with an OS with an init, > is a subtle way of 'encouraging' users to stick with that 'init'. That seems overly kind to an obvious effort to create an M$-like monolith which is too expensive time-wise to adapt to

[DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

Might as well start a thread for those of us who /didn't/ have significant issues upgrading from Devuan Jessie to ASCII as our part of the sprint, just to provide some balance to the problem-oriented bug database and other reports. I'll reply separately with my own narrative. _

[DNG] Devuan Jessie -> ASCII successful upgrade reports

Jessie (Devuanised) upgrade to ASCII was successful with a few dpkg messages. The system asked how and when daemons could be restarted and listed non-empty directories that couldn't be removed. The adwaita icons failed to be copied: the upgrade gave me this warning. I also ended up with two version

Re: [DNG] Devuan Missing Icons GdkPixbuf-WARNING

On 01/17/2018 07:21 PM, Lee Gold wrote: > Hi I am trying live iso: > > devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso > > > So far in Synaptic and thunar I get blank windows, I mean all the > expected icons are not there: > > root@devuan:/home/devuan# synaptic > > (synaptic:13561): GdkPixbuf-WARN

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** > http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii > 404 :) I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ pgpwVqrDSE6Ak.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Happy VUAlentine's Day, Devuan! :) May you manifold and spread all the love that dedicated people put into you! Urban -- Sapere aude! Veteran Unix Admins wrote on 14.02.2018 10:48: > > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Stefan Mark wrote on 14.02.2018 10:55: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > >> **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** >> http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii >> > 404 :) > I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ Yes. 8^) And @all: Please keep in mind t

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:55:46AM +0100, Stefan Mark wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta at:** > > http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii > > > 404 :) > I think its https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii_beta/ fixed now HND Ka

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

    Just updated/upgraded my Devuan-ASCII after the announce, using Synaptic.     Process was dodgy: some policykit packages had to be removed *before* upgrading task-desktop. Doing all at once would mark packages as broken.     After the upgrade, the shutdown and reboot buttons in xfce just

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Am 2018-02-14 11:47, schrieb Didier Kryn:     After the upgrade, the shutdown and reboot buttons in xfce just do the same as the button to terminate the session. No way to shutdown/reboot other than loging in as root. Looks like the same problem I had. If you have libpolkit-backend-systemd and

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Very nice and well done, the new installer presets leave us spoilt for choice.. openrc and a bunch of desktops to choose from.. great stuff. chillfan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Hi, great news about Devuan! Am 14.02.2018 um 10:48 schrieb Veteran Unix Admins: > **Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is available for amd64 and i386 in the > following flavours:** > > - installable live CD/DVD > - installation CD/DVD > - NETINST CDROM > - installable minimal live > - qcow/vagrant

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release > of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins > declared their intention to for

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Please don''t let the Grouch break up your valentine party but would anyone care to elaborate on the following scenario? We have Joe, Jill, Jack, and Mindy. Joe is running Wheezy and converts to Ascii Jill is running Devuan 1 Jessie and converts to ascii Jack is running Stretch and converts to A

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, 2018-02-14 at 20:07 -0500, Fungal-net wrote: > Because as per a couple of hours ago it seems as I have been exposed > to this amprolla3 for 4-5 months now, without knowing, and although I > run about the same stuff on a test debian isntallations, pkgs there > rain down to the level of about

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Thanks for your accurate answer Patrick if Fungal keeps pontifying unsubstantiated claims and denigrating conspiracy theories against us after your answer, it will be banned from here too. OTOH to anyone who is reading and wants to bring to our attention a problem in beta: you are welcome to expr

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Hi, Fungal-net writes: > Please don''t let the Grouch break up your valentine party but would > anyone care to elaborate on the following scenario? > > We have Joe, Jill, Jack, and Mindy. > Joe is running Wheezy and converts to Ascii > Jill is running Devuan 1 Jessie and converts to ascii > Jack

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > Dear dev1rs > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release > of Devuan Jessie [1] just a few months after the Veteran Unix Admins > declared their intention to

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:11:30AM +, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:48:20 +0100 > Veteran Unix Admins wrote: > > > > > Dear dev1rs > > > > the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > > > > On February 14th 2015, Devuan unveiled a "pre-alpha" Valentine release > > of Devuan Jessie

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Am 2018-02-17 08:02, schrieb Edward Bartolo: I have these 'kit' packages installed if that is relevant: << ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd640.105-9+devuan1 amd64PolicyKit Authentication Agent API ii libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 0.105-18 amd64

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Hi, I had the same problem of XFCE not being able to restart/shutdown/suspend. libpolicykit-agent-1-0 and policykit-1 were being held back on apt-get upgrade. When installing explicitly they were pulling ibpolkit-backend-systemd and libpolkit-gobject-systemd (among others) as dependencies as I did

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Just a heads up, I've also been having some weird issues doing package management over tor. I can't really articulate them, because it's pretty confusing. Partially it may be because I don't understand packagemaster and how the process of redirecting to debian repos actually works. But any time

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:14:35AM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > Just a heads up, I've also been having some weird issues doing package > management over tor. I can't really articulate them, because it's pretty > confusing. Partially it may be because I don't understand packagemaster and > how the

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

As I said, I'm not sure, it seems intermittent. Vaguely, and this is the main thing, I think I'm not always getting the full packagelist. SOometimes there are packages I know are available in Debian without systemd dependencies, but they don't appear in Synaptic. Onionshare is one example. Othe

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 03:13:24PM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > As I said, I'm not sure, it seems intermittent. Vaguely, and this is the main > thing, I think I'm not always getting the full packagelist. SOometimes there > are packages I know are available in Debian without systemd dependencies, bu

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

I started out using Devuan Jessie, and onionshare wasn't available to me then either. In Debian currently It's listed in Jessie, Wheezy, and SId. I know people hate bug reports without fine-grained detail, but I've stated explicitly that I only have vague information. I understand it's frustrat

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Wow. I just read that thread with Fungal. I bet it was slightly traumatizing that I brought up anything even somewhat related. Sorry about that, everyone >_< Anyway, that thread very clearly answered most of the questions I've asked, so that's great. I'm still unsure why Onionshare isn't appea

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 01:49:10AM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > Wow. I just read that thread with Fungal. I bet it was slightly traumatizing > that I brought up anything even somewhat related. ...and I have noticed that you write from the same domain of Fungal, that you reply to the sender putting

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

apt-cache policy onionshare onionshare: Installed: 1.3-1 Candidate: 1.3-1 Version table: *** 1.3-1 100 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status I've compiled and installed Onionshare myself, btw. This isn't Onionshare from any Debian repo. I uninstalled it, refreshed my packages, and the output w

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 02:41:56PM -0500, ghostlands wrote: > apt-cache policy onionshare > onionshare: > Installed: 1.3-1 > Candidate: 1.3-1 > Version table: > *** 1.3-1 100 > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > I've compiled and installed Onionshare myself, btw. This isn't Onionshare >

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 2.0.0 Beta released

Fear not, I did in fact already change my sources.list to the onion addresses since reading that thread. I could have mentioned that, but it didn't relate to my question, so. As for Onionshare in Jessie. I did already state that when I was in Jessie, it wasn't available then, either, and that t

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: > Dear Init Freedom Lovers, [snip] > When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of > SysVinit and OpenRC. * * \ o / \|/ |S T R O N G M O V E !

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

On 2018年5月10日 7:11:07 JST, Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: >Dear Init Freedom Lovers, > >Once again the Veteran Unix Admins salute you! > >We are happy to announce that the Devuan 2.0 ASCII Release Candidate >is now available thanks to the support, feedback, and collaboration of >the Devu

Re: [DNG] Devuan "ASCII" 2.0 Release Candidate

On 05/09/2018 03:38 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2018 00:11:07 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins collective wrote: Dear Init Freedom Lovers, [snip] When installing from ISO, the expert install option offers a choice of SysVinit and OpenRC. * * \ o / \|/

[DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

There are images of Devuan ASCII for the Raspberry Pi 3. Anyone know if these are ok for the 3+? Or would I need to run the image on a model 3 and update the firmware and kernel before moving to the 3+? cheers Jim Jackson ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tuesday 21 August 2018 at 22:46:14, Bruce Perens wrote: > I put Devuan Which version? > on my usual travel laptop Do, or did, you have any other O/S installed on it? If so, what? > a Panasonic FZ-G1 What's the sound chip for one of those? > Everything works but the sound. Pulseaudio is s

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

Because, Grasshopper, the Vetran Unix Admins practice what they preach and do not allow short-term issues to obscure their long-term goals. Now, say 20 Aves to St. Igntious. :-) On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Antony Stone < antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2018

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:07:46 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > 1. If you have alsamixer installed, see if anything is muted. Or in pavucontrol Cheers, Ron. -- The magic of our first love is our ignorance that it can ever end.

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 13:46:14 -0700 Bruce Perens wrote: > I put Devuan on my usual travel laptop, a Panasonic FZ-G1 fully-rugged > tablet with an iKey fully-rugged rubber keyboard with hinge which > makes it a laptop. This is specified to survive hose water from any > angle and stand significant a

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

Bruce Perens wrote: > I put Devuan on my usual travel laptop, a Panasonic FZ-G1 fully-rugged > tablet with an iKey fully-rugged rubber keyboard with hinge which makes it > a laptop. This is specified to survive hose water from any angle and stand > significant abuse, and in general to not crap out

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 at 22:46:14, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > I put Devuan > > Which version? > ASCII > > > on my usual travel laptop > > Do, or did, you have any other O/S installed on it? If so, what? > No > > > a Panasonic FZ-G1 > >

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

Steve Litt wrote: > By the way, I recently found a program called qasmixer which I like > better than alsamixer for dealing with sound. I tried qastool, which looks and works great. The other qastools, qashctl and qasconfig make it easy to navigate through other sound-related settings. -- Joel

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

And the solution is: run alsactl init. Does any package install script try to run it? Thanks Bruce On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:39 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > By the way, I recently found a program called qasmixer which I like > > better than alsamixer for dealing with s

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:02:09 -0700 Bruce Perens wrote: > And the solution is: run alsactl init. I sure wish you'd told me about alsactl init 15 years ago, Bruce. Restoring to a known-good situation is priceless in troubleshooting. Thanks for telling me about it today. SteveT Steve Litt Sept

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

dear Bruce, thanks for hinting about alsactl, I suspect checking the dependencies of this package may make the life easier to a number of people installing Devuan without using the desktop task. On Tue, 21 Aug 2018, Bruce Perens wrote: >And the solution is: run alsactl init. >Does any pa

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 01:46:14PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > I put Devuan on my usual travel laptop, a Panasonic FZ-G1 fully-rugged > tablet with an iKey fully-rugged rubber keyboard with hinge which makes it > a laptop. This is specified to survive hose water from any angle and stand > signific

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Raspberry Pi 2

I found a way that seems ok: I installed Raspbian Stretch and migrated it to Devuan Ascii. The package raspberrypi-kernel is in "http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ stretch main", so i left this in my sources list, but pinned it with priority 200, so no other packages are installed by accide

[DNG] Devuan ASCII Live USB security issue

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I've been using a live USB of Devuan with XFCE, I boot it to RAM and then setup my temporary environment from a different LUKS encrypted USB. This allows me to keep my data secure and the setup as simple as possible without actually installing

[DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

Hi all, I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is also just to tell the audience what Linux is about). Machines can ping each oth

[DNG] Devuan on RaspberryPi W Zero segfaults

Hi all! I have a problem with Devuan on s new RPi W Zero: Raspbian (latest image) boots fine, system updates work. Then I try to get rid of systemd (replace raspbian sources with devuan sources). Installing devuan-keyring works. Installing "sysv-rc" "sysvinit-core" and "sysvinit-utils" throws s

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems: > > - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such) > - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G > - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E5573C 4G I used to use a c

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems

On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei modems: - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as such) - Huawei USB modem E3372 4G - Huawei Mobile Wifi router E557

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie + Huawei USB modems

On 23/11/18 at 12:02, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 11/22/18 4:28 PM, ael wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: >>> >>> What is needed to install so that Devuan Jessie recognizes Huawei >>> modems: >>> >>> - Huawei Mobile Connect - 3G modem (Wintendo sees it as

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