[Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Andy Ross
I finally got a chance over the weekend to try out the current DRI code on my new 8500 card and compare it with the offering from ATI. The following is a cheers & jeers style review. Hopefully someone will find it helpful. My setup: 950MHz Athlon (early/pre-thunderbird), KT133 motherboard, OEM 85

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Keith Whitwell
Andy Ross wrote: I finally got a chance over the weekend to try out the current DRI code on my new 8500 card and compare it with the offering from ATI. The following is a cheers & jeers style review. Hopefully someone will find it helpful. My setup: 950MHz Athlon (early/pre-thunderbird), KT133 m

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Ian Romanick
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:10:03PM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > You also don't exhibit a texture border bug that the ATI drivers have > (also submitted to them; no response yet), so at least I know it's not > a hardware limitation. Good work. :) As near as I can tell, there are some OpenGL texture

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread magenta
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:10:03PM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > > ATI blows you guys away in glxgears. I see 38% faster frame rates > with their drivers. Since I doubt gears is doing anything but > glVertex calls (someone correct me if I'm wrong), I take this to mean > that there's significant room

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Andy Ross
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > Is it possible [...] to get the client-side libGL to look somethere > > *other* that /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri for drivers? > > It's LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH Perfect. Thanks. > > You also don't exhibit a texture border bug that the ATI drivers > > have > >

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread magenta
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:04:18PM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Keith Whitwell wrote: > > Andy Ross wrote: > > > Is it possible [...] to get the client-side libGL to look somethere > > > *other* that /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri for drivers? > > > > It's LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH > > Perfect. Thanks. > > >

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Brian Paul
Andy Ross wrote: Keith Whitwell wrote: Andy Ross wrote: Is it possible [...] to get the client-side libGL to look somethere *other* that /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri for drivers? It's LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH Perfect. Thanks. You also don't exhibit a texture border bug that the ATI drivers ha

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Brian Paul
Andy Ross wrote: I finally got a chance over the weekend to try out the current DRI code on my new 8500 card and compare it with the offering from ATI. The following is a cheers & jeers style review. Hopefully someone will find it helpful. My setup: 950MHz Athlon (early/pre-thunderbird), KT133 m

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 22:59 schrieb Brian Paul: > Andy Ross wrote: > > Actually, I'm fuzzy on the spec here. The DRI (and NVidia) drivers > > appear to *not* sample the texture border color by default when > > drawing quads with texture coordinates of exactly 1 and 0. The ATI > > ones see

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:58, magenta wrote: > http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/Solace/ Looks very interesting, is there a chance for a Linux/PPC build? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enth

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread magenta
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:14:53AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:58, magenta wrote: > > > http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~joshagam/Solace/ > > Looks very interesting, is there a chance for a Linux/PPC build? If someone were to lend me a Linux/PPC machine to compile it on. :D Or

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 21:10, Andy Ross wrote: > > First off, getting DRI to coexist with an existing X11 distribution is > a chore. As everybody knows (translation: I only wasted 20 minutes on > this one) clients have to have an LD_LIBRARY_PATH containing the right > libGL.so, but even then you o

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Keith Whitwell
Both drivers get terribly confused if the other one touches the card first. I typically have to do a hard reset before changing X servers or else the machine chokes (sometimes it's a hard lockup, other times the X server just enters an infinite loop and I can reboot the machine over the netwo

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Martin Spott
> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. Like these ones ? http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png I see them all the time at least after take-off and a slight left tur

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Die, 2002-12-17 at 01:42, Martin Spott wrote: > > There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > > frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > Like these ones ? > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png > > > I

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Martin Spott
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 02:19:40AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Die, 2002-12-17 at 01:42, Martin Spott wrote: > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png > > > > > > I see them all the time at least after take-off and a slight left turn. > > There is another effect

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Andy Ross
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > ATI blows you guys away in glxgears. I see 38% faster frame rates > > with their drivers. > > Actually what gears does most is glClear and glXSwapBuffers, with a > small amount of glCallList. You can speed up swapbuffers by turning > page flipping on i

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Ian Romanick
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 09:59:57AM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > So technically, there is a DRI compliance issue here. I've attached > the little test that I wrote to illustrate the problem. It draws four > adjacent checkerboard quads and cycles between the wrap modes on key > presses. With GL_CLAMP,

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Andy Ross
Ian Romanick wrote: > Heh...look at demos/texwrap.c in Mesa. This does basically the same > thing, but it enumerates all of the advertised modes, even the > various mirror modes. Silly me. Why bother trying to learn about something and share the knowlege when I could have just... what, exactly?

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Ian Romanick
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:52:05PM -0800, Andy Ross wrote: > Ian Romanick wrote: > > Heh...look at demos/texwrap.c in Mesa. This does basically the same > > thing, but it enumerates all of the advertised modes, even the > > various mirror modes. > > Silly me. Why bother trying to learn about som

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
>> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > Like these ones ? > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - a

RE: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however.  > Every ~40 > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > Like these ones ? > > > http://document.ih

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread magenta
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > Like these ones ? > > > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-20 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 19:48 schrieb magenta: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: > > >> There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however. Every ~40 > > >> frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen. > > > > > > Like these ones ? >

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott
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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott
>> > http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png >> >> Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - also shows >> this sort of artifacts ? > And I can guarantee it's not a bug in Solace. ;) >> http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.p

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2003-01-07 Thread magenta
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: > > And I can guarantee it's not a bug in Solace. ;) > > >> http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png > >> > >> > >> Maybe this program is not that complex and could server as a test case for > >> DRI/Mesa-4.x,

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2003-01-08 Thread Martin Spott
> On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote: >> >> http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png [...] >> > Wow, that's a really cool failure mode... What's your GL_draw_method (in >> > ~/.Solace/registry) set to? Try changing it to 1 or 0... >> >> Yep, thi