Sure, www.cyfrocash.com does exactly that. But the fees are steep.
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Fourthly -- the sensation of being paid .62 grams, forty times, at
Noon on the first of the month is something like this: imagine waking
up in the morning, but you aren't tired or hungry and have no cobwebs
in your eyes, you sit up in zero gravity and find you are sitting
naked in the
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Hello Everyone,
It appears that we do have a few clients hosting with us whom we can't
contact. Especially among the Privacy Hosting packages there are several
clients we could not send their new access details, because the mail box
the hosting account had been opened with either does not exist
Sidd,
Untrue... 1g e-gold has ALWAYS been = to 1g Pecunix...
Try it for yourself http://open2exchange.com/buy.sell...c2c
What about the transaction fees on the deposit at pecinux?
I think you have misunderstood Viking completely...
Hence there has to be actual proof of the gold
How would such a conglomerated gold currency be a fiat currency?
Sorry about the term abuse. I often use fiat incorrectly because of the
insecurities it implies and because I want to differenciate from other
digital currencies.
While my idea of fiat is not necessarily correct I do assess it
Happy Birthday JRM !!!
May you live long and prosper ;o)
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Graham,
All my NZ
customers will be invited for a flight (if they trust my flying!) Next
year, we plan to move to Europe with the machine.
Are you selling concessions for in-flight gold sales, yet? ;o)
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You exchange 100g of e-gold for 100g of comgold. Those 100g of comgold
aren't guaranteed to be redeemable for e-gold, but are guaranteed to be
redeemable for 100g total of any of the currently underlying GBCs (17g
pecunix, 13g goldmoney, 16g e-bullion, 14g 1mdc, 40g e-gold) due to the
flux of
This is the email sent to all clients on server05, but to make sure, I'm
posting it here as well. After all, server05 is our 'gold' server :o)
Hello Everyone,
As most of you would have noticed, the web sites hosted on our Server 05
were not accessible since Sunday, but have been coming back
Hello Jon,
Sorry, we should mention to everyone that we have always had very good
service through this company (Cyberfronier - cyberica.net) and this seems
to be the first problem we have had from them over the past year of
service. There site - www.cyberica.net is also down so their seems to
How long do you anticipate that the e-gold servers will be down?
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Hello Graham,
Thanks for letting me know about the post. It never appeared to me to
check back here while we try to save the livelyhood on the poor souls on
server05...
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Hello Everyone,
One of our servers (s05) which hosts among others the online accounting of
cyfrocash.net has been under a somewhat unusually large dDOS barrage for
the past few hours.
Of course, backups are in place and there is no reason for concern other
than that some 200 websites are down as
There is one minor issue though: Open2Exchange - or any other operator -
would not only need to accept all currencies, they would also need to hold
substiantial reserves in each.
Of course, things would be far easier if currency operators began to
exchange correspondence accounts, but that is
Patrick,
Great that you remember as well. Looking around me I was beginning to
wonder if my youth was just a product of my vivid imagination :o)
Jens,
You are right, of course, that two types of acounts, current and saving,
so to say, would be the way to go. However, then e-gold runs the risk of
Sidd,
Pecunix is just *too* good to be convenient for heavy users ;o)
By the way, how about adding a routine that calls Open2Exchange to convert
pecunix into e-gold?
It would be a neat extension of the GoldCart Pecunix ... trio and
you's get to collect fees three times (Merchants would just pass
JP,
How about taking it a step further? How about making a simple click to pay
with gold pop-up that lets users select their IG to pay gr/$eqv while the
merchant picked the IG he wants to receive it in when he set it up?
Charge a flat fee, independent from the amount, and plaster 1MDC.com all
over
Danny:
1) Option to have email notification whenever somebody logs in to my
account...
I'm almost sold - the fact that it would be optional and I can turn it
off, would do it for me ;o)
The privacy issue would have been less the content of the message, but the
sender. Check citizen
And the funny thing is that I said about 24 hours ago that something like
that was exactly what was needed - of course I suggested e-gold instead of
pecunix - but I will give this a try.
Would be great if it worked with evocash, but I guess that might be a bit
much to ask :o)
Thanks Sidd.
Cheers,
Hello Danny
1) Option to have email notification whenever somebody logs in to my account
and whenever a transaction is done.
You do have a point there. Of course, there is the issue about privacy.
Emails are not exactly secure and I can think of several reasons why
someone wouldn't want an
Plus the de facto currencies that are often e-gold based, such as
Gold-Price.net, virtualgold.net, even freetraders.org in a way.
I think most exchangers start at one point or another to toy with the idea
of becoming the 'better e-gold'.
Cheers,
Robert.
PS - Sometimes there is method to my
Jim,
Gold price network is a currency? It is operated by Joel
Bruce of Asiana Gold exchange, I think.
G-P Members can trade with grams of gold, exchangable for e-gold as well
as redeemable for nuggets as I recall.
I did not realize freetraders was based on e-gold, or a
currency.
Not
Hello Drew,
I know, I am not Gordon, but think that he is likely to have similar
thoughts on the subject.
If you promoted and advertised the logo's of other payment options
(Pecunix, Goldmoney etc) as much as you did e-gold and paypal then you might
find that people started paying in these
Life is
a lot more helter skelter than it has been in past decades, when you had
more down time and, with less distractions, probably a more focused, less
confused, sense of reality.
Sad but true. I wonder if people with less choices end up being overall
happier?
Cheers,
Robert.
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Danny
I do agree that most accounts have a small balance, but that holds true
for the amount of money many people have in their wallets, does it not?
People appear to be treating e-gold as money, something they use to buy
things with - which is what we promote it for in Asia, by the way - not as
No, Robert is not always right.
Don't I know this better than most ;o) But I do keep trying.
For a entity with over 2 customers it should be no problem to manage its DGC
stock the right way.
If an entitiy has over 20,000 customers, then these customers seem to
prefer dealing with that
Has it appeared to you that Graham might just not have any DMT/Alta funds?
As far as I can see he actually posted here trying to find some...
It's amazing how people always believe that exchangers have to have stock
of every paltry DGC and carry the risk of price fluctuations, provide
instant
Jim, do you know if e-gold will ever again commission an audit?
Also, is the old audit still on the site somewhere? I didn't find it
in the site map, and the word audit does not even appear in the User
Agreement.
With over 1,000,000 accounts and the highest volume/turn-over in terms of
Look no further than www.cyberica.net or our esteemed friends at
www.katzglobal.com
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What's the best rate (either vs. gold or vs. dollar or vs other
relatively stable currency or commodity) that you've heard of?
100% yield on 1:1.8 risk ratio.
It's called Roulette ;o)
Sorry, just had to.
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PS - Lotto has higher profits, but the odds about the same as Saddam
As long as it isn't
T. Rusty it's fine by me...
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Jim,
Thank goodness that double top was blown out of the water!
= My thoughts exactly. I would have waited having to sit and wait to see
if the $370 holds.
What is your take on the likely machine buying targets? Meaning, will
traders have buy orders after a close above $400.00 or will they
JPM,
Your comment would be like complainign to Visa card about the prices
at a shop! :)
= Now that is an idea. I wonder if VISA would respond to such a
complaint. I mean, in my experience their customer support staff seems not
exactly to be burdened with a high IQ. To put it in other words,
The question may well be if we have seen an interim double-top?
Of course, as the noise increases and more people jump on the wagon there
might be momentum to push it above the 400 anytime. The interesting bit
will be when the big boys start taking profits again and if a price below
$370 (if the
Danny,
... I am still lucky enough to get sex free
of charge :-)
Had too much early redemptions of e-wine and e-snow, huh?
Since when has there ever been free sex in history? Are you saying a
neighbour drops by, gets busy and buggers off afterwards? Anything else is
not 'free'.
Consider the
JP, why don't you rise to the occasion? ;o)
As Danny says, Money is what people are willing to accept as such, and
if structured in a way that it generate revenue on it's own without being
subject to risky market movements (ie. might be a good idea not to base
e-land on a block of flats), it may
Hello Jim,
At it again, are we? :o)
You know, Graham paid a hefty price for promoting OSgold, having put his
wallet where his mouth was. Now, if INTgold is another dud, he is likely
to get burnt another hole into his pocket.
I understand that innocent till proven guilty does not apply in line
Hello David,
Isn't your model a bit too abstract, yet at the same time incomplete as it
does not allow for growing population and continued reduction in arable
land?
What I mean to say is that due to continued net growth in population
(allowing for reductions in some industrialized nations being
Howdy.
Getting by.
Shall I mark you down for the
cheering section? Yay lions, boo Christians?
So now you are against lions too, are you? What on Earth did they do,
other than play with their food before eating it?
I think you mistake a discussion list for a court of law.
Naw, is just
David,
I stand corrected. Should stop posting all the time and get back into
reading theory ;o)
Thanks for clearing it up.
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JPM,
Until we run out of natural gas to make fertilizer with...
Also, not everyone favors gentechnology grown on cardboard and while there
is enough to feed to world several times over, I wonder if there still was
when there were no more subsidies.
And while prices for food do indeed keep
There are many shades of grey Jim.
Please don't take what I consider responsible behaviour as an indication
that you finally figured out under which category to sort me.
I might in fact not fit into any and yet in a way into most of the
mutually exclusive categories you seem to have created to
Aren't Malaysian customers just great?
Not only has there to the best of my knowledge never been any problems,
they also recognize good service when they see and appreciate when they
receive it.
And that is about 50% of the reason why we picked Malaysia as our Asian
base.
Congrats Joel. :o)
One of our hosting clients is acclaimed Richard Crasta (
www.richardcrasta.com ), who offers all his books online and accepts
e-gold as a payment option.
The site also has some nice tidbits and sample chapters from some of his
of writings, and if you like my sickening sense of humour, you'll love
One more reason people want to be able to rely on the value of money, so
that there is an actual benefit to save the surplus capital income to
aquire more capital later-on.
Hence we are back on the old argument that money is more likely to have a
consistent value, if it is redeemable for
That's a great arbitrage opportunity. All you have to do is take your
dollars, exchange them for pesos, exchange those for Euros, and exchange
back to dollars. You should have 4% more dollars. Repeat this again with as
much money as possible.
The problem there is only that I have to start
Hello Everyone,
We actually have a system in which we rebill on behalf of several clients
(factoring, for lack of a better word?) by email.
The sytem is pretty simple, so I'm not sure if what you are talking about
is really needed. Our clients submit the email address, billing details,
billing
People do not buy 10 times more shoes with the extra money.
___Explain that to my wife please :o)
They buy one pair of shoes, just like 50 years ago, but now they have money
left for a mobile phone, a PC, a mountain bike, a massage,...
___ It is not entirely true though. The shoes
Now there is a smart way to gauge the group's expectations.
The trouble is then only, would you use contrarian techniques or go with
the flow? Decissions, decissions...
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It appears that there is a gap of up to 4% between USD EUR exchange
rates and exchanging USDPHPEUR.
Depending on the time of the day and as a strictly cash-only business, it
appears as if the USD is valued 2-4% higher in terms EUR against the
Philippine Peso. That means, if one exchanges $10,000
Patrick,
So basically the best choice is arable land with highly fertile soil,
ocean view, access to a sandy beach, sitting on a deep-core gold mine and
being in short distance but upwind from an International airport :o)))
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John,
Sounds nifty until you realize Kyoto is a BS government scarcity decree on
the world economy. Climate shifts from warm periods to deep ice ages have
come and gone well before we ever got here and the factors affecting such
things are probably beyond our powers, and up to much greater
Danny,
So the ultimate result is pretty much the same.
Without extra money supply the average person would now be able to buy 10
times more shoes for his money, because they have become cheaper.
With the extra money supply the average person now has 10 times more money
to buy these shoes
Increasing the money supply does not necessarily imply increasing the
amount of monies circulated. The fact that JP' 1MDC does not 'use' the
e-gold we deposit with them, doesn't change the fact that it exists.
Say you buy a house and and rent it out. You then proceed taking out a
loan and buying
Danny,
If you create 'e-land' , an e-currency backed by land ownership, you can
transfer pieces of the ownership just like we do with e-gold, but this
currency will be able to pay a yearly 'interest' based on the produce that
comes from the land, instead of charging a storage fee for
George,
Trouble is, that land could also grow radioactive dumps or a spaceport for
turism to Jupiter. The value of that land can change because some people
decide to do something with it or near it. Property value depends too much
of local factors, while gold does not.
--- That is correct,
Patrick,
Just one item: Inflation isn't the same as rising prices.
Not every inflation results in higher prices and higher prices are not
always caused by inflation.
Having an increase in the money supply with stagnant supply of goods and
services only leads to higher prices when merchants charge
Just a comment to the footnote.
As mentioned we have insurance against government actions. And we are also
25 years tax exempt on land, produce, sale, income, etc.
Gold is so much easier to take and run with. Real property is slightly
more difficult - especially the running part, if not the
JP,
Yep you are right, the use of the term fiat is incorrect. I should have
called it paper which is what I meant.
Oh and thanks for calling me mad. Appreciate the compliment. After all,
the various forms and terms referring to insanity are all basing the
definition of sane on the overall quotient
Looking at the replies to my recent posts I am starting to wonder if
people could really be so stuck in value judgements or their views of the
world to ignore simple mathematics. Opening the newspaper, I know they
are.
Amazingly, the programmers knew right away where I was coming from and
where I
Same here. We have had dealings with GoldAge for a while and I know Ragnar
as honest and helpful.
If there indeed was some sort of problem, then you are not telling the
whole story. Either way, if you sent them money and they received it, then
you can be pretty sure to receive your e-gold spend.
He is definitely an idiot.
And he must have not had any human contact for a while.
I mean, sucking an ass whole is impossible, because the donkey won't hold
still.
Sucking an ass' hole is difficult as well, because it's attached to the
ass.
If we allow for the American spelling of the word
Your point is well taken, but you made one small mistake there, JP.
1mdc does NOT expand the money supply in any way.
-- Patrick
In a way it actually does. Much in the same way a bank deposit or holding
a plug type=sales balance in a CF$ customer account /plug does.
You see, when you 'deposit'
Well Jim, you see, we have borrowed against our shares to buy more shares
to borrow against and we then traded some gold puts and ended up with
almost twice the fiat we had started with and get to keep a cut of the
dividends as well.
We then bought e-gold from our own subsidiary at no surcharge,
Danny,
Did you know that when stocks of share were first introduced, they were
redeemable at base/face value? Similar to a partnership where one party
wants out, shares could be returned to the company and sold at the base
value which was determined through the actual sale value of the company's
Hello Karl,
I am not sure why everyone thinks that the location of the server is
relevant in terms of legalities when courts have clearly decided that the
location of the operator is paramount.
Of course, French courts went as far as saying that the location of buyers
is the most relevant point
Which historical period / region are you thinking about there, Robert ??
Up to and just prior to the South Sea Bubble :o)
The times where people still believed that something had to be exchanged
in a fair trade. But as many a reputable business had issued shares and
used the revenue to
Hello Jim,
I was wondering what kept you :o)
In fact I was not speaking out against shares - or didn't mean to - at
least initialy. I was trying to set the stage for what my latter post was
meant to achieve namely warn about *possible* inflationary tendencies of
e-gold derivatives, for lack of a
Well, now that you made it abundantly clear to everyone that 'old'
accounts can be traded, the value of an early account in terms of trust
has diminished, n'est-ce pas?
I would say that special sequences are more likely to actually instill
trust, because only e-gold can asign those and they
Has it appeared to anyone that we are essentially turning our gold into
paper when we invest in stocks? Just wondering.
I know, people will now argue that shares are traded in gold and
exchangeable only for gold and that therefore the share 'represent' gold.
By the same token, I'd argue that it
the HTTP port is blocked - ssh still works though... hmm...)
That usually suggests that the host suspended them. Shutting down the web
server is first of three degrees of separation :o)
Next is account suspension (no more mail, ftp, etc.), followed by deleting
the BIND record and account.
If
Hello Remco,
From what I hear they are above board beyond belief :o)
Meaning that yes, they DO have that many accounts and transactions that it
is entirely possible that they didn't find your transfer because it was
labeled incorrectly or whatever else reason they might give.
Don't forget, this
Just about indefinitely :o)
The article suggests that he took different amounts, from which I deduct
that he actually grabbed it from internal accounts in which transfer funds
are parked (you know, the accounts where the money is that was transferred
to someone, arrive 6 nanoseconds later and then
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Hello Jens,
You do of course have a point, but I think the reason for coins is mainly
that they are with us as since shortly after the concept of money was
invented (metal supplies permitting and shell money and similar exemptions
not withstanding). Old habits die hard, I suppose.
I do actually
Hello Jim,
Divin, our resident tech says that this one is either being sent from a
guy who uses own mail account, or alternatively the mail servers allow
unverified relays.
Seems the provider is http://www.optonline.net/ and they appear to have
ignored a nudge we sent them three days ago. At
Okay here goes:
ACH is a proprietary, American system that compliments the account system
structure of associated banks and identifies recepients based on the
sorting code and account number.
It uses a central database that sorts incoming and outgoing transactions
based on the sorting code and
Graham,
This is from my personal experience, and personal opinion.
And you are spot on as well :o) I was trying not to lash out too harshly,
thinking that many people on the list might have not seen or experienced
efficient banking systems and hence dismiss my remarks as mere rantings.
I have
Oh goodie,
Can I file 'friends of the court' briefs?
Serious, if you go through with it, then that would be something worth
saving and linking to for people who don't know what it's all about, just
yet.
Count me in.
Cheers,
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I wonder if this SCIbot mail is partially real? As noted above the spend
fee is incorrect, which would allow to calculate the amount of the real
spend. That, together with other indicators that might match an actual
transactionmight give e-gold an indication which real e-gold accounts were
Now that is a problem. I was always wondering how long it would take until
crooks started to use the names of repectable people and the nasty under
their name just to damage their reputation.
The trouble is that the way some things are set up (especially the name
space) these actions are just
When a child is born, it values its mothers breast above anything else (if
the child is male, valuing breasts is likely to stick with him till he
dies).
As the child grows up and learns from its suroundings, it realizes what
people are placing value on and how that value is measured.
Sooner or
Because if you don't feed the cow, it will die.
And if you don't protect it, someone will it.
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Well Gordon,
Marriage has traditionally more to do with money than most other subjects
we have discussed. Interestingly, the Germans were the first to call the
kid by it's name. They define a marriage as a 'union for the purpose of
accumulation' and have one of their really long words that nobody
Hello Joe,
It is unlikely that it would change anything on the currency situation,
really. The Chinese (Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, ASEAN, South Africa
-take your pick) are interested in a weak currency in dollar terms and
will continue to buy all dollars as soon as they enter the country
Pitty we don't have enough geniuses (genii?) around, innit?
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Patrick,
Why would people say you are wrong? It is a fact that whatever a human
creates serves one of three purposes: Commerce, Military, Pleasure.
If there is commercial reason to build a road, people will build it.
If people do not, the government will build it for the military/law
Wouldn't you then risk Moderator battles?
Oooohh? You moderateed my post? Wait, I'll buy some mod points and
moderate it right back and declare all your posts as trolls and flame
bait
From experience with /. there is also the risk of 'revenche fouls'. Our
chief tech has been moderating often
Hello George,
I have often wondered if it was possible to do away with inflation, all
taxes, etc. and simply replace them with a flexible GST (goods and
services tax).
The simplified version would look like this:
Every good and service is subject to a surcharge of say 5%, without
exemption.
Hello Helen,
There are very good reasons for avoiding the cascading effects of such
taxes. Like the horrible distortion and the massive vertical integration
that would follow.
Sorry, but could you elaborate? I'm pretty bad with the buzzwords du jour
and under distortion I would understand
George,
Actually the title refers to the argument by paper advocates that there
might not be enough gold on the planet to facilitate all the daily
transactions, international trade, etc, and that hence a liquidity crisis
would follow if gold was used ad only denominator of exchange.
Most here
Now, it could be that the owner of the site actually bought the reseller
rights from you under his own name?
If not, then I guess you need to contact their hosting provider to get
them shut down.
Of course, you are cheaper anyway, so why would anyone buy from them?
Cheers,
Robert.
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Hello Ian,
I am still waiting for a formal complaint from v2Gold.
I tried to nicely hint what he was supposed to do, because the site is
hosted with us. You know we don't get involved unless there is a reason.
My post suggests that if v2Gold complained TO US, then I would have the
reason to
Actually the site has been suspended about 30 minutes ago, after we had a
look to see if they had the v2Gold scripts stored on the machine (which
they didn't) and found the trojans.
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At least he has a claim in accordance with the Terra (Luna?) Nullis rules
used to establish ownership of otherwise unclaimed and uninhabited land.
If the claim would stand in an International tribunal context is
questionable. However, it maybe likely that there would be some kind of
compensation,
Money is not added to the circulation by printing it and throwing it out of
a helicopter over the people's houses.
Instead it is being printed and either used by the gov to pay bills (most
countries) or loaned to the gov to pay bills with (USA).
However, if you look at the requestion costs of
George,
I hope Patrick doesn't mind if I answer this one.
Redeemability implies that the issuer of paper has the corresponding
amount of gold in stock. This in turn means that the paper is synonymous
with gold and that there can be only as much paper as there is gold.
Exchange is something
Hello Jim,
That's precisely why I'm against outlawing things.
I guess that means you'd like to outlaw outlawing :o)
But as you say yourself, ursury is morally highly questionable. And as the
increasing absence of moral values, indeed the decay of morality in
society continues to be replaced
Danny,
Unfortunately vendor finance and lease back are common practice in many
stores here for ages, already. While they don't call it rent per say, it
boils down to monthly installments and the word interest appears nowhere.
Most notably though, if an item costs say $500 cash, then the vendor
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