[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-22 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit > cards in online payments, they must sell a concept. > > The concept is that gold is the best money available on this planet. > Better than any national currencies. If they succeed selling this > idea, people will routinely conver

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> If they want a halfass currency with elastic attached, which they can > jerk back out of the merchant's hands post facto, then the *merchants* > will be quite justified in telling them to take a running jump, once > they see an alternative is available. DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner! Th

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 22:25, PowerClicks wrote: > So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming > everyone is bullish on gold. Long term... being bullish on gold is the only thing that make sense. > Apart from exchange risk, to use it as a > money store you need the "trust"

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
> So you dump in a wodge of money and use it in small amounts until you > need to refill. And it's useful as a money store and a means to > speculate on gold as well. Hardly rocket science. So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming everyone is bullish on gold. Apart f

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
Paul Ewing wrote: > > > > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > > > risks in the hand of the consumer. > > > >When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with > > >gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are > >constantly debase

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- > existant. You also don't have to worry about the merchant doing multiple spends, or a spend greater than what you authorized, out of your account. You also don't have to worry about somebody getting your card# and going wild with i

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
> > No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their > > money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. > > >When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- >existant. Convince the customers of that. One of the highest fears they have is that of using a cre

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote: > > I am betting that we will see a massive move to gold and private > money in the coming decade. Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and regulate them and require so

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 20:37, Julian Morrison wrote: > Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely > try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and > regulate them and require so much snooping on the customers as to > effectively nationalize them by default.

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:46, Paul Ewing wrote: > No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their > money back from a merchant in the case of a problem. When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non- existant. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Paul Ewing
> > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > > risks in the hand of the consumer. > >When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with >gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are >constantly debased, it becomes very easy to make th

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:09, PowerClicks wrote: > Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow. The only way to > do this relatively quickly if to fund using a credit card, but then > what's the point? For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit cards in online payment

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:12, PowerClicks wrote: > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the > risks in the hand of the consumer. When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are constantly d

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
>> As a merchant myself, I much prefer wiating for sfe e-gold than >> taking CC and being charge 3%. > > 3% uncapped and with the very real possibility that the transaction will > be cancelled at any in the near future. True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Julian Morrison
PowerClicks wrote: > > >>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? > >> How does e-gold delay the sale? > > > > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold > > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. > > Exactly. You must f

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
>>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? >> How does e-gold delay the sale? > > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow.

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:15, Viking Coder wrote: > > why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? > How does e-gold delay the sale? I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card. As a merchant

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale? How does e-gold delay the sale? Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread PowerClicks
> As I mentioned in another post, why should MegaCorp be alienated when it > cannot directly contact the existing ~95,000 funded account holders? It > has a consumer base of millions that it can push an advertising campaign > of "a new & exiciting way to buy our product/service without a credit

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Viking Coder
> Do you believe that e-gold should keep it's growth rates slower > than they can be? No, but there better ways of increasing the growth rate (currently @ ~30%/month) than polluting the spend page with advertising. > Untargeted ads is what's needed. Then create a TV ad, take out full page ads

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread SnowDog
JP, why don't you call Doug and talk to him directly about advertising for this big Mega Corp you want to sell? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread Bob
Viking Coder wrote: > The main question again is - Why should e-gold bother? To make money. That's the *point* to being in business. To *increase* gross revenue. To increase shareholders' value. > They don't need the money, which is usually the primary reason for hosting > advertising. Huh? W

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-21 Thread jpm
>> To reach people who have US Dollars: >> >> (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium. > >Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be >unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a >market-maker's page. I'm not exactly sure what you mean there.

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> To reach people who have US Dollars: > > (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium. Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a market-maker's page. > Tried it extensively, more than anyone. A good

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Viking Coder
> >Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and > >correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the > >only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold. > > No .. no logic here? e-gold would be to offer *only* untargeted

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Vince Callaway
> >Don't most of the market-makers sell advertising on their web pages? Isn't > >_that_ a way of targeting advertising to e-gold users? I have seen marginal results from banner ads on my own site. I get quite a bit of traffic to the site, but the people visiting are generally focused in getting

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
>> what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue > >Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and >correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the >only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold. No .. no log

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
>> 3) they said "so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the >> email addresses of all users or advertise to users" >> >> (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users >> >> (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is" > > >This is an amazing thing. Presumably t

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread jpm
>> majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner >> ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) ) > >It's Craig. > Sorry! I'd just been writing Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob in promoting Bobgold .. I mean Bananagold ... >Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage,

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Viking Coder
> Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to > harnessing sloth, if my guess is right! ;^) > JMR Working on it, and there will be games other than chess available. Although, it's kinda on the back burner right now. I have several other e-gold related projects that I'

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread James M. Ray
At 09:16 AM -0700 06/20/2001, Vince Callaway wrote: ... >I have finished all the work on the mass payment system, I am just > >finishing up the interface that lets you subscribe to various marketing >lists. > Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to harnessing sloth,

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Vince Callaway
> Suggestion: e-gold should have an "e-gold adverts list" with a > check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages. You will see something like that in about 3 weeks from FreedomHound.com. You can register to receive email solicitations. The kicker is that the fees paid to send to

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Julian Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users > > (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is" > Suggestion: e-gold should have an "e-gold adverts list" with a check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages. --- You are c

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Viking Coder
> what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold. This sort of data m

[e-gold-list] RE: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
> 3) they said "so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the > email addresses of all users or advertise to users" > > (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users > > (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is" This is an amazing thing. Presumably the same b

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread SnowDog
> majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner > ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) ) It's Craig. Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue, if only a few major businesses can afford to put ads there? So what if those businesses simply stay

[e-gold-list] Re: egold is a shit currency for scams and hyips

2001-06-20 Thread Geoff
You're not a happy bunny are you jpm. I understand your frustration and sympathise with it. INMHO which I have expressed before, the problem with e-gold becoming more widely used has nothing to do with major firms or conglomerates using it. One of the major problems is getting your account funded