> For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit
> cards in online payments, they must sell a concept.
>
> The concept is that gold is the best money available on this planet.
> Better than any national currencies. If they succeed selling this
> idea, people will routinely conver
> If they want a halfass currency with elastic attached, which they can
> jerk back out of the merchant's hands post facto, then the *merchants*
> will be quite justified in telling them to take a running jump, once
> they see an alternative is available.
DING, DING, DING!!! We have a winner!
Th
On 21 Jun 2001, at 22:25, PowerClicks wrote:
> So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming
> everyone is bullish on gold.
Long term... being bullish on gold is the only thing that make
sense.
> Apart from exchange risk, to use it as a
> money store you need the "trust"
> So you dump in a wodge of money and use it in small amounts until you
> need to refill. And it's useful as a money store and a means to
> speculate on gold as well. Hardly rocket science.
So how much do you dump? $100, $1000, $1, more? You are assuming
everyone is bullish on gold. Apart f
Paul Ewing wrote:
>
> > > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the
> > > risks in the hand of the consumer.
> >
> >When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with
>
> >gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are
> >constantly debase
> When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non-
> existant.
You also don't have to worry about the merchant doing multiple spends, or
a spend greater than what you authorized, out of your account. You also
don't have to worry about somebody getting your card# and going wild with
i
> > No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their
> > money back from a merchant in the case of a problem.
>
>
>When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non-
>existant.
Convince the customers of that. One of the highest fears they have is that
of using a cre
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote:
>
> I am betting that we will see a massive move to gold and private
> money in the coming decade.
Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely try
and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and regulate
them and require so
On 21 Jun 2001, at 20:37, Julian Morrison wrote:
> Which will annoy the national governments enough that they'll likely
> try and legislate GCs into the ground, or at least tie them and
> regulate them and require so much snooping on the customers as to
> effectively nationalize them by default.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:46, Paul Ewing wrote:
> No the risk to the customer is that they have no way to get their
> money back from a merchant in the case of a problem.
When dealing with reputable merchant, the risk is almost non-
existant.
Claude
http://www.goldcurrencies.ca
http://www.ormetal
> > True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the
> > risks in the hand of the consumer.
>
>When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with
>gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are
>constantly debased, it becomes very easy to make th
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:09, PowerClicks wrote:
> Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow. The only way to
> do this relatively quickly if to fund using a credit card, but then
> what's the point?
For e-gold and Goldmoney to reach the masses and replace credit
cards in online payment
On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:12, PowerClicks wrote:
> True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the
> risks in the hand of the consumer.
When you underdstand that the greater risk and costs is not with
gold and gold currencies, but with national currencies that are
constantly d
>> As a merchant myself, I much prefer wiating for sfe e-gold than
>> taking CC and being charge 3%.
>
> 3% uncapped and with the very real possibility that the transaction will
> be cancelled at any in the near future.
True, but with egold you are placing all the extra cost and all the risks in
PowerClicks wrote:
>
> >>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale?
> >> How does e-gold delay the sale?
> >
> > I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold
> > before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card.
>
> Exactly. You must f
>>> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale?
>> How does e-gold delay the sale?
>
> I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold
> before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card.
Exactly. You must first acquire e-gold which is slow.
On 21 Jun 2001, at 14:15, Viking Coder wrote:
> > why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale?
> How does e-gold delay the sale?
I guess he meant that the customer must first acquire some e-gold
before he can spend it. A slower process than with a credit card.
As a merchant
> why would merchants push a payment system which delays the sale?
How does e-gold delay the sale?
Viking Coder
Worth Two Cents?
http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?VikingCoder
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> As I mentioned in another post, why should MegaCorp be alienated when it
> cannot directly contact the existing ~95,000 funded account holders? It
> has a consumer base of millions that it can push an advertising campaign
> of "a new & exiciting way to buy our product/service without a credit
> Do you believe that e-gold should keep it's growth rates slower
> than they can be?
No, but there better ways of increasing the growth rate (currently @
~30%/month) than polluting the spend page with advertising.
> Untargeted ads is what's needed.
Then create a TV ad, take out full page ads
JP, why don't you call Doug and talk to him directly about advertising for
this big Mega Corp you want to sell?
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Viking Coder wrote:
> The main question again is - Why should e-gold bother?
To make money. That's the *point* to being in business.
To *increase* gross revenue. To increase shareholders' value.
> They don't need the money, which is usually the primary reason for hosting
> advertising.
Huh? W
>> To reach people who have US Dollars:
>>
>> (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium.
>
>Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be
>unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a
>market-maker's page.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean there.
> To reach people who have US Dollars:
>
> (i) advertise anywhere, on any medium.
Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be
unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a
market-maker's page.
> Tried it extensively, more than anyone. A good
> >Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and
> >correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the
> >only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold.
>
> No .. no logic here?
e-gold would be to offer *only* untargeted
> >Don't most of the market-makers sell advertising on their web pages? Isn't
> >_that_ a way of targeting advertising to e-gold users?
I have seen marginal results from banner ads on my own site. I get quite
a bit of traffic to the site, but the people visiting are generally
focused in getting
>> what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue
>
>Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and
>correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the
>only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold.
No .. no log
>> 3) they said "so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the
>> email addresses of all users or advertise to users"
>>
>> (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users
>>
>> (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is"
>
>
>This is an amazing thing. Presumably t
>> majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner
>> ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) )
>
>It's Craig.
>
Sorry! I'd just been writing Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob
in promoting Bobgold .. I mean Bananagold ...
>Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage,
> Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to
> harnessing sloth, if my guess is right! ;^)
> JMR
Working on it, and there will be games other than chess available.
Although, it's kinda on the back burner right now. I have several other
e-gold related projects that I'
At 09:16 AM -0700 06/20/2001, Vince Callaway wrote:
...
>I have finished all the work on the mass payment system, I am just
>
>finishing up the interface that lets you subscribe to various marketing
>lists.
>
Yes, yes, but when do we get CHESS? It's the closest I'll ever come to
harnessing sloth,
> Suggestion: e-gold should have an "e-gold adverts list" with a
> check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages.
You will see something like that in about 3 weeks from FreedomHound.com.
You can register to receive email solicitations.
The kicker is that the fees paid to send to
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>
> (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users
>
> (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is"
>
Suggestion: e-gold should have an "e-gold adverts list" with a
check-button to autosubscibe you on the account creation pages.
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> what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue
Unless e-gold started data mining the spending habits of their users and
correlating it to the type of business that the spend was made to, the
only relevance that the advertising would have is that they accept e-gold.
This sort of data m
> 3) they said "so, how do we reach these users, where do we buy the
> email addresses of all users or advertise to users"
>
> (4) i said, Oh, there's no method for reaching egold users
>
> (5) they said "what a fucking stupid conversation this is"
This is an amazing thing. Presumably the same b
> majorbrokerage.com does not give a flying fuck about putting a banner
> ad on golddirectory.com (sorry Bob! :) )
It's Craig.
Otherwise, what good is the e-gold webpage, as an advertising venue, if only
a few major businesses can afford to put ads there? So what if those
businesses simply stay
You're not a happy bunny are you jpm.
I understand your frustration and sympathise with it.
INMHO which I have expressed before, the problem with e-gold becoming more
widely used has nothing to do with major firms or conglomerates using it.
One of the major problems is getting your account funded
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