Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception/That'slife!

1998-12-05 Thread Sandy
Oh come on Joe you arent really suprised that Angela is anti-choice. She toes the party line according to her own admissions. Regards, Sandy

Posting Limits

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
Angela, some people have contacted me to say I should just let your comments slide like water off a duck's back, because you're "just that way." I was inclined to follow that advice until your last series of tirades, but could not in all good conscience let them go without replying. Someone

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception/That's life!

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Where is the humility?/ Dial GOD

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Affluenza

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
Hi! Forwarded message regarding a new tape. Thanks! Angela ~~ 2) Af-flu-en-za n. 1. The bloated, sluggish and unfulfilled feeling that results from efforts to keep up with the Joneses. 2. An epidemic of stress, overwork, waste and indebtedness

Earth Proclaimation

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
Hi! I am forwarding this message to anyone who wants to sign the Earth Proclaimation: Thanks! Angela ~~~ Earth Proclamation & Prayer WE ARE ONE PEOPLE... WE SHARE ONE PLANET... WE HAVE ONE COMMON DREAM... WE WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE... WE CHOOSE TO PROTECT AND H

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception/That's life!

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-05 15:09:59 EST, you write: << I feel sorry for you, and sorry for all those here who must endure you. J oe >> Hi! Joe, please do not feel sympathy for me - I am really a very soft-spoken t

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Where is the humility?/ Dial GOD

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-05 14:42:02 EST, you write: << I wanna hear god's voice say what you said he said. Joe >> Joe, why don't you get him on the horn yourself - Here's - how to reach him, kneel down, fold your hands - say "Father I believe and I would like to talk with you." Ask him "Wha

Re: aryan army: full term abortions in US?

1998-12-05 Thread Aabbcc1010
In a message dated 12/4/98 7:29:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The whole thing gets very sinister ... > >The Aryan Army has the death roll with Barnett Slepian's name crossed out. > >Can someone please clarify the current status of abortion in the US for >me? >Can a mother do abortions to ful

Vandana Shiva

1998-12-05 Thread firdos
Hi, Sometimes ago someone posted an article/ statement by Vandana Shiva regarding monoculture. I think the statement was delivered in Washington in June 1998. Can someone please mail me a copy of that article or the website where I can access it. You can send me the info directly at : [EM

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
Angela, whether or not it is your intention, you are sabotaging this list. Authentic ecofeminists have already unsubscribed rather than endure your unending blathering about your patriarchal religion-of- choice, and if you keep it up, more are sure to follow. Are you a secret agent-provacateu

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/dualisms!

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
HUNTSVILLE, AL--Jesus Christ, son of God and noted pro-life activist, killed two and critically wounded seven others when He opened fire in the waiting room

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/unnatural defense

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/dualisms!

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Where is the humility?

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!/Making exceptions!

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Dominion

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
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Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Where is the humility?

1998-12-05 Thread Jellking
Dear Angela, Please be meek and humble, and show some restraint. People should be able to have an intelligent conversation without being bombarded. Love, Jane

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Where is the humility?

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 19:42:27 EST, you write: << god is better (for lack of another term) than people. . .begins the notion that we have to select one part of any dichotomy to "rule" the other, instead of things being equal. (could somebody tell me if I'm way off the mark?) >> Hi! Wh

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/Dominion

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 19:35:47 EST, you write: << god is charge of everything") is the major cause of oppression in the world today (see Carolyn Merchant, Karen Warren, Rosemary Ruether, and many more) I find absolutely no solace in the prospect of embracing christianity to solve ecologi

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!/Making exceptions!

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-05 09:56:45 EST, you write: << I mean you are not an exotic dancer yourself I take it? To have a holier than thou attitude is fine if you know everything about everything that a person does and why they do it, if you don't I think it is quite problematic. >> Hi! S

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!/$worth it?

1998-12-05 Thread Sandy
>Selling your soul is a viable alternative? Selling your soul? Oh please, come on. Are you really serious? The idea of confusing working for something that is a compromise with selling ones soul deeply concerns me. I have done crappy jobs too, some of which are probably really acceptable to

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!

1998-12-05 Thread Sandy
Oh come now, making a comment on someone elses post like that - about a personal issue, whether it is framed as a personally held idea or not is still making a comment on their choice - I mean you are not an exotic dancer yourself I take it? To have a holier than thou attitude is fine if you kn

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!/$worth it?

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-05 07:43:53 EST, you write: << Pre-vet scholarships are, frankly, unlikely. >> Hi! This brings up this question: Why do people sell out to money? Selling your soul is a viable alternative? How much is it worth - $6,000,000, $1000,000 2 cents? How much are you

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-05 07:43:53 EST, you write: << you made a judgement about them >> Hi! Sandy, you misread my post - please re-read it - I said I would not compromise myself as a whole for an education to further MYSELF in life - I said did she really exercise other alternatives or is sh

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/dualisms!

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 20:09:11 EST, you write: << Hi, I DO agree with what you say here. Dualistic thinking begins with self/other. Sincerely, Jane >> Hi! Sorry have to add this because dualism also keeps coming up: BUT, the true teachings of Christ - was not dualistic - it w

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!

1998-12-05 Thread Sandy
I am sorry but I really felt uncomfortable about this post. I realise I am new here, but I really feel a certain amount of censure, if not by the list, by certain members of the list. Angela although you write peace, you are incredibly proscriptive, to tell someone off for doing something that

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/don't compromise yourself!

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 20:20:26 EST, you write: << I am trying to work my way into being an accomplished woman, but in the meanwhile I am forced to compromise and participate in something I do not believe in. >> Hi! I am not going to judge you - but can I say this "force is a very stron

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 20:14:32 EST, you write: << Angela, the next time god says someting to you, would you please record him saying it and send us all copies? Joe >> E-mail is a lot more efficient! Peace! Angela

Re: Rights vs. responsibilities/unnatural defense

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 19:58:34 EST, you write: << they are both natural parts of life, and without the first, the second would never happen! Joe >> Hi! Yes it is a natural thing - however Women are not here on this planet to merely arouse men sexually! I believe that we ar

Re: hypocrites?/convictions/spirit/believe whatever/perception

1998-12-05 Thread Ecolady
In a message dated 98-12-04 19:53:33 EST, you write: << Truth/falsity are knowledge categories, and as such are scientific and/or historical. Religions structured belief systems, and as such are outside the purview of knowledge; they, being concerned with the METAphysical or ontological un

AryanNats> whose finger is on the button?

1998-12-05 Thread Chris King
Beloved Ecofeminists, and Weavers I am in the middle of cutting down the nuclear holocaust chapter of "The Black Book of Many Colours" it's uncanny that a burning cross on Lori's front lawn could have coincided with this but here is the situation. The three enclosed quotes show whose finger is on

Re: Washing away the 'Aryan Nation'

1998-12-05 Thread Joe E. Dees
Date sent: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:31:29 +1200 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris King) To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Washing away the 'Aryan Nation' > Donna, >

Washing away the 'Aryan Nation'

1998-12-05 Thread Chris King
Donna, This is good news! It's great that the groundswell of human conscience can return to the heart source. It's great to hear these diverse people all came. I'll E-mail the head of the Communication Department at the University of Idaho and tell (him?) that I am gazetting this for 'contempt

Ecofem archive moves to mail-archive.com

1998-12-05 Thread M. Yount
Hi everyone, To save resources on CSF's computer, the ecofem archives have been moved to mail-archive.com. The new location is http://www.mail-archive.com/ecofem@csf.colorado.edu/ The new site offers better privacy, and message threading is no longer broken by separating messages by month.

Re: family size,etc.

1998-12-05 Thread Schall Willmore, Melissa
Oh Angela! Imposition is a poor choice of words. Who do you think will be imposed the most if we continue having children the way that we are? It probably won't be us, but it very well may be our children or our grandchildren. If you want to have lots of kids adopt. Do you feel the need to pa

Re: Ecofeminism and Religion

1998-12-05 Thread Niamh Moore
Hi Jake - I'd really love the full reference, publisher and year for the Gay and Gaia book that you keep mentioning, and I keep thinking I must read ... Niamh Moore. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:41:23 -0600 (MDT) Jake A Paisain wrote: > From: Jake A Paisain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

RE: state terrorism

1998-12-05 Thread Nicla Camerin
>Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:06:22 -0400 >Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Nicla Camerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: state terrorism > >> >Date sent:

RE: state terrorism

1998-12-05 Thread Nicla Camerin
>Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:53:39 -0400 (EDT) >Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: Carlos Alicea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: state terrorism >Originally to

thanks for the suggestions on books!

1998-12-05 Thread Chia-chen Wu
Dear Ecofem memebers: Thanks for the suggestions and ideas! I appreciate everybody's help. Just in case anyone is interested, Rachel Carson's books are already translated into Chinese. Chia-chen

Re: An Ecofeminism Web Site

1998-12-05 Thread Niamh Moore
hi rcihard sillily busy for a chnage, keep meaning to call mail . hope all is well, definitely on for ssome ecofem in Britain gathering / list whatever (i'm off to conference Monday - yet to write paper - impressed by your three-week early papaer for BSA - will be good to hear how th

Re: (Fwd) WEB: Ecology and Environment

1998-12-05 Thread Denise White
I would like to have my email address removed from this list. Thank you!

Re: The Nation Article (fwd)

1998-12-05 Thread Liam Campion
thank you elizabeth! a friend recommended the nation paper a while back. i think i can see why.