Re: SAT Question Selection

2002-01-14 Thread Stan Brown
Ts), with some bits about the "test" questions you refer to, but I can't quite remember the title. I've searched the catalog of my old library, and this _may_ be it: Lemann, Nicholas. The big test : the secret history of the American meritocracy New York : Farrar, Str

Re: Excel vs Quattro Pro

2002-01-07 Thread Stan Brown
ic analysis, he would never have given us the TI-83! :-) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com/ "My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading." --

Re: One-tailed, two-tailed

2001-12-30 Thread Stan Brown
Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >[ posted and e-mailed.] Ditto. >On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:46:10 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Brown) >wrote: >> Now we come to the part I'm having conceptual trouble with: "Have >> you proven that one ga

Re: One-tailed, two-tailed

2001-12-30 Thread Stan Brown
when the true value is 0 than when the true value is 13. So >the error rate from jumping the wrong way when there is a true >difference is less than the error rate from jumping any way when there >is no true difference, and you are justified in stating the direction of >the distance.

Re: High Stakes Testing

2001-12-30 Thread Stan Brown
du And of course all of Usenet is archived at http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search under (in this case) newsgroup sci.stat.edu. The OP can get the whole thread s/he's interested in, as one Web page.

One-tailed, two-tailed

2001-12-29 Thread Stan Brown
result. Am I being over-scrupulous here? Am I not even asking the right question? Thanks for any enlightenment. (If you send me an e-mail copy of a public follow-up, please let me know that it's a copy so I know to reply publicly.) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New Yor

Re: Standardizing evaluation scores

2001-12-21 Thread Stan Brown
Glen Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Stan Brown wrote: >> But is it worth it? Don't the "easy graders" and :"tough graders" >> pretty much cancel each other out anyway? > >Not if some students only get hard graders and some

Re: Standardizing evaluation scores

2001-12-19 Thread Stan Brown
ng". But is it worth it? Don't the "easy graders" and :"tough graders" pretty much cancel each other out anyway? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My

Re: used books

2001-12-13 Thread Stan Brown
to see whether their question has already been answered. Of course, I have to bear my share of the blame for reinforcing that behavior by posting a helpful answer!) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com/

Re: ANOVA = Regression

2001-12-11 Thread Stan Brown
e to turn on "macro virus" warning in your copy of Microsoft Word, which should defang this particular risk. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com/ "My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts

Re: When does correlation imply causation?

2001-12-05 Thread Stan Brown
sed by a straight-line model. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com/ "My theory was a perfectly good one. The facts were misleading."

Re: Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-12-03 Thread Stan Brown
rote in the letter, saying, Set ye Uriah >> in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he >> may be smitten, and die.") on any possible finding in the other >> direction, may seem attractive. A moment's thought should persuade us >> that i

Re: glass and stanley

2001-12-02 Thread Stan Brown
which I love to support. Bibliofind (similar name) seems to be part of Amazon.com now. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct rep

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
Jon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: > >Stan Brown wrote: > >> I would respectfully suggest that the OP _first_ carefully study the >> textbook sections that correspond to the missed lectures, get notes from >> a classmate > >This part is o

Re: Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
[cc'd to previous poster] Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >I think I could not blame students for floundering about on this one. > >On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:39:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Brown) >wrote: >> "The manufacturer of a pa

Re: Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
[cc'd to previous poster; please follow up in newsgroup] Robert J. MacG. Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Stan Brown wrote: >> "The manufacturer of a patent medicine claims that it is 90% >> effective(*) in relieving an allergy for a period of

Re: Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
rejection is also tentative. >The difference is that the null has this privileged position. Thanks -- that makes some sense. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as i

Re: Stat question

2001-12-01 Thread Stan Brown
to fill in any remaining gaps or answer any questions. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply address is more

Re: Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-11-29 Thread Stan Brown
Gus Gassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Stan Brown wrote: >> "The manufacturer of a patent medicine claims that it is 90% >> effective(*) in relieving an allergy for a period of 8 hours. In a >> sample of 200 people who had the allergy, the med

Interpreting p-value = .99

2001-11-29 Thread Stan Brown
pid and missing some reason why it _would_ be legitimate to draw a conclusion from p=.9908? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtes

10 envelopes, 10 persons

2001-11-19 Thread Stan Brown
s there an elegant way to write expressions for the probabilities of the various x's? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply

Re: biostatistics careers

2001-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
What _is_ "biostatistics", anyway? A student asked me, and I realized I have only a vague idea. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of p

Re: How to write this kind of proposal? any sample?

2001-11-18 Thread Stan Brown
didn't ask: talk to a lawyer. Unless you _intend_ to donate your idea to Altavista, you need to make sure it is protected before you present it to them. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My re

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-15 Thread Stan Brown
Jerry Dallal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Problem: Divide 95 by 19. > >Student writes 95/19, 9's cancel, leaving 5/1 = 5 . >How much credit do you award? Perfect example! -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-11 Thread Stan Brown
(or both) may be quite likely to apply correct statistical techniques correctly in the real world. How do we know? How can we do a better job of evaluating students than merely setting and marking written timed exams? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-08 Thread Stan Brown
that assumption. (Note to self: ask my own students at the end of the course.) We call them "crib sheets". -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The court

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-08 Thread Stan Brown
rthless if you can't justify it. Someone else mentioned projects. Students do two in the semester, a test of population proportion based on a sample of 100 and a larger project of their own choosing. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-08 Thread Stan Brown
g that standard handout -- helps the student to decide which ideas are important and also to learn those ideas. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-08 Thread Stan Brown
t their mode. This is an interesting idea. I'll be waiting to see others' comments on it. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct

Re: Inverse Cumulative Distribution Function vs. Percent Point Function

2001-10-28 Thread Stan Brown
ributions, the two would be rather different. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply address is more important to me than t

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-19 Thread Stan Brown
field of interest, gathering data, and planning and computing the proper statistical tests to answer the question. > As a way to get students going so they can study >some substantial problems...whatever works! Now there we're in complete agreement! -- Stan Brown, Oak Road System

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-18 Thread Stan Brown
Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >I don't feel M&M's are any more trivial to introduce the concepts than >the usual "chips in an urn" or "balls from a jar". Using M&Ms has one huge pedagogical advantage: most people learn better when more of their senses are engaged. I would ex

Re: for students (biology et al.) that hate numbers

2001-10-16 Thread Stan Brown
ould nicely illustrate the larger variability that comes smaller samples. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply address is mor

Re: Final Exam story

2001-10-13 Thread Stan Brown
is the probability that N students responding randomly on M choices will all make the same response. In your scenario, N=6, M=4, p=.25^5 = 1/1024 = about .098%. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My r

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-05 Thread Stan Brown
really goes up to >89.5. Thus the range was defined as 89.5 - 49.5... thus the additional >one unit... Perhaps a better argument is that if you count the numbers you get forty of them: 50, 51, 52, ..., 59 makes ten, and similarly for the 60s, 70s, and 80s. -- Stan Brown, Oak Roa

Re: Counting Techniques

2001-10-04 Thread Stan Brown
more complicated. :-) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply address is more important to me than time sp

Re: Help

2001-10-04 Thread Stan Brown
g the n tosses. > >Find P(A=2) analytically (not by simulation) for the case n=5. I don't know what you mean by "simulation", but since you specify N=5 probably the most direct solution to your question is this: list all 32 possible sequences of heads and tails. Count how many of

Re: They look different; are they really?

2001-10-02 Thread Stan Brown
Gus Gassmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Stan Brown wrote: >> Another instructor and I gave the same exam to our sections of a >> course. Here's a summary of the results: >> Section A: n=20, mean=56.1, median=52.5, standard dev=20.1 >> S

Re: They look different; are they really?

2001-10-02 Thread Stan Brown
hypothesis to test, which test to apply, and how to interpret the results. That's where I'm particularly grateful for everyone's feedback. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My rep

Re:

2001-10-02 Thread Stan Brown
are to suggest details, but surely it is possible to configure it so that this does not happen? Bounce messages should go to the owner of the mailing list, not to someone who is not even a member. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

They look different; are they really?

2001-10-01 Thread Stan Brown
utation means anything. So let me pose my question: given the two sets of results shown earlier, _is_ there a valid statistical method to say whether one class really is learning the subject better than the other, and by how much? -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cor

Re: WTC 9-11 stats show paranormal connection

2001-09-22 Thread Stan Brown
is not somehow opposed to "extant science", it is the foundation of it. It's naive at best to cite "quantum physics" as support for any sort of mystical anti- scientific views. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

Re: what type of distribution on this sampling

2001-09-20 Thread Stan Brown
3. >Finally what difference does it make how many random samples you take (ie. >100 or 1000). What statistic or parameter does this speak to? None that I know, in a formal sense. If you take 100 random samples of size 81, or 100,000 random samples of size 81, your histogram of sample means will

Re: not significant

2001-09-12 Thread Stan Brown
ourse, I don't believe the textbook ever uses that abbreviation (and I know I don't). Perhaps you might want to define it the first time on that page: SEM = standard error of the mean. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA

Re: Regression to the mean,Barry Bonds & HRs

2001-08-27 Thread Stan Brown
l factors, which could have great impact on his performance. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply a