RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-25 Thread Mike Hopkins
uirements must be published in the Federal Register to have the force of law. The Federal Register has been in its present format for decades and is unlikely to change any time soon. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org > From: Mike Hopkins > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:

RE: IEC and EN standard relationships

2003-11-18 Thread Mike Hopkins
Info from outside the EU: One of the things that I think we all see happening is that because the European Norms (EN's) have become mandatory for products shipped into the European Union, and since these standards seem to be "okay", they are being picked up world-wide. In the US, ANSI and others

RE: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
I think the length of a 1/2 wave dipole in feet is basically 468/f(MHz) where the ratio of the length to diameter is very large (wire antennas in the HF region, for example). Making the diameter of the elements larger does two things: it reduces the overall length of the antenna and increases the

RE: ESD for a dev lab work place

2003-10-16 Thread Mike Hopkins
Not aware of any standards for ESD related to development; however, since new products will likely need to meet existing international and national standards, that would be the place to start In my experiance, engineering labs tend to use the standards (IEC 61000-4-2 being the most prevelant,

RE: SURGE testing, disturb. meas.

2003-09-21 Thread Mike Hopkins
URFF [mailto:mcinturff3...@msn.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:13 PM To: Mike Hopkins; Konrad Stefanski; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: SURGE testing, disturb. meas. So is an ethernet line considered disabled when disconnected since it will drop the link (although it keeps trying to establish l

RE: SURGE testing, disturb. meas.

2003-09-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
There are couplers available from a number of manufacturers; however, none work at data rates much above 100kHz. For that reason, the current draft of 61000-4-5 revision 2 (not yet circulated) inlcudes the following -- keep in mind, it is an EARLY draft, but it will appear in a CD by the end of thi

RE: SURGE testing, disturb. meas.

2003-09-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
Prices depend on the design: Some contain coupling and backfilter elements for 4 lines plus circuitry to allow coupling using either capacitors (still the preferred method in 61000-4-5) or arrestors. They also allow the addition of clamps of various levels to reduce or eliminate surges back to th

RE: antennas

2003-08-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
275 0850 michael.hopk...@thermo.com One Thermo, committed to integrity, intensity, innovation & involvement From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:49 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: antennas I read in !emc-pstc that Mike Hopkins w

RE: antennas

2003-08-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
I believe amateur radio products are exempt from the EN's. someone correct me if I'm wrong. Best Regards, Michael Hopkins Manager, EMC Technologies Thermo Electron Control Technology Division EMC & ESD Simulation Solutions One Lowell Research Center Lowell, MA 01852 Tel: +1 978 275 0800

RE: Lightning Surge Characterization/Standards

2003-08-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
For lightning in the power grid, see ANSI/IEEE C62.41.1 - 2002 Guide on the Surge Environment in Low-Voltage (1000V and Less) AC Power Circuits ANSI/IEEE C62.41.2 - 2002 Recommended Practice on Characterization of Surges in Low-Voltage (1000V and Less) AC Power Circuits ANSI/IEEE C62.45 -20

RE: voltage dips

2003-07-22 Thread Mike Hopkins
There is a new document in the works, IEC 61000-4-34, for dip & interrupt testing of products drawing greater than 16A. It is currently a CD (Committee Draft). TC77A WG6, who is responsible for this document, meets in Spain in September, after which a CDV (Committee Draft for Vote) is possible. It

RE: FCC's inquiry for broadband over the powerlines (BPL)

2003-07-18 Thread Mike Hopkins
All I know is that it seems to be a major problem in Europe, with lot's of HF spectrum uses seeing high levels of interference to services. Amateur Radio organizations world-wide are fighting it (including ARRL in the US). I heard a talk regarding this problem in Germany at the last IEEE EMC Sym

RE: ESD - not applicable ?

2003-06-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
involvement From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 AM To: Mike Hopkins; don_borow...@selinc.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: ESD - not applicable ? Mike, I'm still not sold. I understand the specific exemptions for circuit cards,

RE: ESD - not applicable ?

2003-06-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
You always need to apply two heads --- the engineering head says,"Good engineering practice says you should test for ESD", but the compliance head only needs to meet the requirement of the standard, which clearly exempts points and ports NOT accessible by an OPERATOR. Points and ports accessible

RE: Automotive ESD

2003-06-09 Thread Mike Hopkins
esearch Center Lowell, MA 01852 Tel: +1 978 275 0800 ext. 334 Fax: +1 978 275 0850 michael.hopk...@thermo.com One Thermo, committed to integrity, intensity, innovation & involvement From: Locke, Darrell [mailto:dlo...@advanced-input.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:37 PM To: Mike Hopkins

RE: Electrical Fast Transient (EFT) and the Real World

2003-06-04 Thread Mike Hopkins
Actually, the EFT test pre-dates the IEEE reference. IEEE included a reference to IEC 801-4 in the earlier IEEE 587 document, which has now become ANSI/IEEE C62.41 (now reissued as a 2002 document as a Trilogy: C62.41, C62.42, and C62.45). In the 70's, EFT tests were being conducted in Europe usin

RE: ESD Problem

2003-05-27 Thread Mike Hopkins
So is mine (hand up, that is) Best Regards, Michael Hopkins Manager, EMC Technologies Thermo Electron Control Technology Division EMC & ESD Simulation Systems One Lowell Research Center Lowell, MA 01852 Tel: +1 978 275 0800 ext. 334 Fax: +1 978 275 0850 michael.hopk...@thermo.com One Thermo

RE: question on IEEE standards activity addressing immunity stand ards

2003-05-15 Thread Mike Hopkins
The first one to come to mind is ANSI C63.16 for ESD -- finished a document recently for ESD testing of products -- should be published soon Also, there is the IEEE SPD -- Surge Protective Devices -- group under the Power engineering society that just published ANSI/IEEE C62.41.1, C62.41.2 an

RE: Design of low cost ESD gun.

2003-05-09 Thread Mike Hopkins
Since you can buy a compliant gun for a few thousand dollars (used, demos, etc), why would you want to spend at least that much in time and materials to get something close?? Mike Hopkins Thermo Electron michael.hopk...@thermo.com From: LEUNG YAT WAH DEREK [mailto:ywle...@vtc.edu.hk] Sent

RE: ESD gun verification

2003-05-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
Because you're dealing with a relatively high frequency event, you really do need a good target and measurement system to verify that the waveform is in compliance That said, there are a number of ways to verify that the gun is working and is probably okay without going to any extremes. One

RE: surge Z?

2003-03-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
The surge generator specification is 2 ohms source impedance for testing in normal mode (line to line) and 12 ohms for testing in common mode (surges line to ground). Mike Hopkins Thermo Electron KeyTek From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:36 PM To

RE: RADIATED IMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS FOR EN61326

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Hopkins
ld certainly be very close to other sources or radiation from, say, 5W walkies used by security personnel -- how much of a field can you get a 150MHz a foot from a 5W transmitter?? Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:

RE: RADIATED IMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS FOR EN61326

2003-03-03 Thread Mike Hopkins
I believe the other bands are television broadcast M. Hopkins Thermo KeyTek From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:03 AM To: Gordon,Ian; 'IEEE EMC-PSTC GROUP' Subject: Re: RADIATED IMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS FOR EN61326 Hazarding a guess. I am no

RE: Surge - injection point on screened cable

2002-11-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
the cable. Don't know enough about your product to comment of the practicality fo such a test. Hope it's helpful... Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 200

RE: EN61326:1997 Planning

2002-10-30 Thread Mike Hopkins
on things like voltage (testing to as high as 6kV for surge), how the dip & interrupt tests are done (external variac's and switches vs. internal tap switched transformers), software control, etc... I'll leave the CISPR 11 questions to someone more qualified than I am. Mik

RE: Australian Telecom Surge testing

2002-05-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
generators designed to meet only the CCITT or IEC specification may not also meet the 9/720us requirements of FCC. Both specify a 20uF energy storage capacitor for this waveform... Hope this helps... Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: John Cronin [mailto:croni

RE: A very nice game

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
Agreed -- I've received this virus about 50 times in the last few days, but each time the system (local server) quarantines it...... Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: Robert Wilson [mailto:robert_wil...@tirsys.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:47 AM To:

RE: EMC test set-up for device with ethernet connection

2002-03-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
e. As a manufacturer, we make a coupler that incorporates both methods described above -- 20mH chokes and 0.5uF capacitor -- good to about 3kHz, plus the arrestor coupling with resistors -- good to about 100kHz. Best Regards, Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: david_ster...@adem

RE: ESD Generator confidence test

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Hopkins
an RF generator, or any other piece of test equipment being used. Any simple test will do so long as the user is confident that everything is working okay -- Calibration of any generator or measurement equipment is done periodically in accordance with the manufacturers recommendations. Best Regards,

RE: Use of PCB Traces as Fuse and Voltage suppressor

2002-02-22 Thread Mike Hopkins
gards, Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek. -Original Message- From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:18 PM To: Chris Maxwell; bogda...@pacbell.net Cc: EMC-PSTC Internet Forum Subject: Re: Use of PCB Traces as Fuse and Voltage suppressor Our exper

RE: EN61000-6-2

2002-02-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
that's for another day.) Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Jacob Schanker [mailto:schan...@frontiernet.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:01 PM To: Mike Hopkins; 'Colgan, Chris'; EMC Forum Subject: Re: EN61000-6-2 Mike: My experience tells me that an attenua

RE: EN61000-6-2

2002-02-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
Seems an attenuator COULD improve matching and VSWR if it then became a significant part of the load impedance; it isn't a given. On the other hand, adding the attenuator should NOT cause the VSWR to become very high unless it is not a 50 ohm attenuator...... Mike Hopkins -Ori

RE: Company close down due to EMC phenomena

2002-01-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
es in airports world-wide. >From a vantage point several thousand feet above the local power lines, a 25ms burst once/hour would be no big deal, but if there are lots of 25ms bursts/hour in a given area, this could be a problem! Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek (pilot of small airplane who does not want

RE: EN50091-2:1995

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
Oops. Meant to say the 801 series is obsolete and replaced by the IEC 61000-4-X series, which is true.. Mike H. -Original Message- From: Mike Hopkins [mailto:mhopk...@thermokeytek.com] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 1:42 PM To: 'Sam Wismer'; EMC Forum S

RE: EN50091-2:1995

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
s, so you better get other opinions!) Good Luck. Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: Sam Wismer [mailto:swis...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:06 AM To: EMC Forum Subject: EN50091-2:1995 Hi all, I am reviewing EN50091-2:1995 to determine the i

RE: Something a little different - Car Radio question

2002-01-04 Thread Mike Hopkins
ious radio worked well. 5. Just what are the symptoms -- no noise, white noise and no signal, loud popping noise, . Good luck, Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:cortland.richm...@alcatel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:32 PM T

RE: EMC-related safety issues

2002-01-02 Thread Mike Hopkins
You get the idea.) There was also a video being circulated of a Connie Chung news broadcast relating similar horror stories of the effects of EMC. We used to have a copy here, but I haven't seen it in years -- probably dumped when we moved..... My 2 cents worth.. Mike Hopkins Thermo

RE: surges on 24VAC

2001-12-18 Thread Mike Hopkins
Most Surge testers having ac mains couplers will also work with DC power (some require minor options to work), so actually doing the test is pretty easy Question as I read it was if it is in fact reasonable Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: KC CHAN [PDD

RE: surges on 24VAC

2001-12-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
8V DC system bring DC into homes and buildings from wires strung on telephone poles) and for these systems, lightning testing might make sense -- hence no provision in the standard that makes DC systems exempt from testing. Hope this is helpful... Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Me

RE: 2 Phases in North America

2001-12-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
harmonic is fundamental plus the fundamental (once); second is the fundamental plus the fundamental x 2, etc. ). I like it! Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: bogdan matoga [mailto:bogda...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:03 PM To: Cortland Richmond Cc

RE: ESD Simulator Evaluation

2001-12-04 Thread Mike Hopkins
urich EMC Symposium and the IEEE EMC Symposium that talked about this, but I'd guess it was mid to late 80's and I no longer have these records. Hope this helps. Best Regards, Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.

RE: Methods & Equipment; Surge & Dips

2001-11-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
-- they were one of the few AC sources that weren't upset with transients on the output stage coming back from an EUT..... Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:keh...@lsil.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:57 PM To: 'Mike Hopkins'; Ehler, Kyle;

RE: Methods & Equipment; Surge & Dips

2001-11-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
n the AC levels you require via a variac or some other transformer and simply switch between them.... Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:keh...@lsil.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:19 PM To: 'wmf...@aol.com'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Meth

RE: Pre-amps

2001-11-16 Thread Mike Hopkins
ally, the cable length acts as an impedance transformer.) For specific frequencies, one could use the cable as an impedance matching section between the source and load, but this is clearly unusable for broad-band applications. Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Ken Javor

RE: "Safety Critical" etc - the future

2001-11-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
s are independent test facilities. Others are industry -- Siemens, Philips, Nokia, IBM, Sun, HP, Schneider, Tele Danmark, Allen Bradley, Tokin, etc... Some of these experts run labs within their companies, but they are not NRTL's or Competent Bodies. This composition is similar in the other WG

RE: Surge (1000-4-5) voltages & impedances

2001-10-10 Thread Mike Hopkins
tests, the tests are performed between lines, or line to ground, in which case the impedances will be higher -- up to several hundred ohms Hope that helps... Mike Hopkins Thermo KeyTek -Original Message- From: Yow, Steve (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA) [mailto:steve@gefanuc.com] Sent: Wedn

RE: ISO TR 10605 test setup (ESD)

2001-06-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
measured significant potentials between separate grounds in the same building.. Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'Chris Chileshe'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: IS

RE: Typing Shortcuts

2001-06-14 Thread Mike Hopkins
How about By The Way Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:18 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Typing Shortcuts Over time I have come across many typing shortcuts using the

RE: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-06-14 Thread Mike Hopkins
Another point is that at lower voltages, the real rise times (the dv/dt) can be quite a bit higher --- especially below about 5kV Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:72146@compuserve.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:33 AM To: jrbar

RE: consumer electronics used on board aircraft

2001-01-25 Thread Mike Hopkins
That might be right, but if the FCC didn't ban the use of cell phones in airplanes, I'd bet the airlines or FAA would. Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: rbus...@es.com [mailto:rbus...@es.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:26 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org S

RE: consumer electronics used on board aircraft

2001-01-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
acuum, red flashlights in the cockpit, etc... Upsetting autopilot controls might cause the airplane to do something erratic, but that sort of thing should be recoverable as long as someone in the cockpit is paying attention. Enough of that -- need to get back to my real job Mike Hop

RE: EN 61000-4-8

2001-01-16 Thread Mike Hopkins
2905 W. Lomita Blvd. Torrance, CA 90505 Tel: 310 891 0635 Fax: 310 891 0644 Hope this helps, Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:42 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EN 61000

RE: EN 61000-6-2 Table 2.3 inticates signal ports => 30 M +/- 1k v?

2001-01-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
You read the table correctly, and it seems to be confusing a lot of people. To go through it logically (I think) The longer the line, the more likely surge energy would be coupled into a cable -- certainly the case for induced lightning transients. Terminated lines shorter than a few meters are

CEPT Standards

2001-01-02 Thread Mike Hopkins
I've had a request to meet CEPT T/TR 02-02E, but can find no references to this. I found the CEPT web site, but they don't mention any standards at all. Can only find references to radio conferences, postage stamps and amateur radio -- nothing specific to testing products. Anyone out there have a

RE: Surge (immunity) requirement for equipment in telecommunicati on c enters

2000-12-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
Anyway -- the basic idea is that shorter cables won't pick-up any significant energy from a radiated surge event. Hope this helps, Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Zohar Zosmanovich [mailto:zohar_zosmanov...@radwin.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:47 AM To: 'e

RE: Crossed Vane ESD Simulator

2000-12-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
Hi Sandy -- KeyTek built many of the crossed vane testers used by IBM and their suppliers. Older units (pre 1980's) were built by another company -- don't remember who. The crossed vane tester produces a ringing waveform which more closely resembles the kind of waves you would see from a furnitur

RE: Standards

2000-12-18 Thread Mike Hopkins
Theoretically Already we have EN's that are NOT identical with the IEC standards What's the odds of the EU (CENELEC) coordinating closely with IEC on these issues?? I'd say close to zero -- as convenor of IEC SC77B WG11 responsible for such things as Surge and EFT immunity

RE: Blocking Cap for 1000-4-4 (EFT)

2000-12-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
Virtually all commercially available EFT simulators with built-in coupler/decouplers for the ac mains contain the 33nF capacitors internally. The only reason you might need to use them externally is if you were building your own coupler/decoupler, which also includes the necessary backfilter compo

RE: How does RF travel through outer space?

2000-12-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
An excellent explanation -- I've seen these issues explained many times, either over simplified or overly detailed. The explanation below is a superb balance. Thanks Michael Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Nick Rouse [mailto:100626.3...@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, Novemb

RE: ESD

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Hopkins
Go to their Web page and you can order a copy for downloading there: http://www.esda.org/publications.html Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Dave Wilson [mailto:dwil...@alidian.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 12:58 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: ESD D

RE: Immunity measurement uncertainty

2000-09-14 Thread Mike Hopkins
n broadcast the info yet...... Best Regards, Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Leslie Bai [mailto:leslie_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:24 PM To: IEEE EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: Immunity measurement uncertainty Hello, members, Is there anyone who can direct m

RE: Ringing wave surge testing for Modem

2000-09-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
Also, refer to IEC 61000-4-5 section on telecom and FCC Part 68 for surge testing modems. Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: j...@aol.com [mailto:j...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:19 AM To: matt.aschenb...@echostar.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re

RE: 90 V gas-filled arrestors source?

2000-09-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
You can also get coupler/decouplers that meet the spec from KeyTek (1-800-753-9835) and other manufacturers. Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Dan Kinney (A) [mailto:dan.kin...@heapg.com] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:37 PM To: David Gelfand; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

RE: 90 V gas-filled arrestors source?

2000-09-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
An MOV won't work - it's a clamping device as opposed to a crowbar device. Gas filled arrestors are common in the telecom industry -- try CP Clare, Reltech (near Chicago), TII New York, Sankosha, Shinko, --- probably others, but can't remember them. Good luck Mike

RE: IEC 61000-4-5 Surge Immunity Question

2000-09-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
nt that is expected through that line, 25A, even though it is now effectively disconnected from the unit under test. Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: David Gelfand [mailto:gelf...@memotec.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:09 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Su

RE: Heavy Industrial vs. Light Industrial

2000-07-31 Thread Mike Hopkins
tions which are characterized by being supplied directly at low voltage from the public mains network are considered to be residential, commercial or light industrial. How's that?? Mike Hopkins, KeyTek -Original Message- From: don_macart...@selinc.com [mailto:don_macart...@selinc

RE: Electrical safety of firearms

2000-07-31 Thread Mike Hopkins
My favorite is the light bulb and socket - simply changing a light bulb is inherently unsafe.. Mike Hopkins -Original Message- From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 12:08 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Electrical safety

RE: EN 61000-4-3 past 1 GHz

2000-07-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
king group lately. The group is Working Group 10 under SC 77B of the IEC... Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com -Original Message- From: Ron Pickard [mailto:rpick...@hypercom.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:24 PM To: don_macart...@selinc.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 61000-4-3

RE: Implanted IC in brain

2000-07-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
Rather than IC's implanted in humans, I foresee IC's incorporating biological material such as neuron cells. Killing a device or product will take on a whole new meaning! Mike Hopkins KeyTek -Original Message- From: Kazimier Gawrzyjal [mailto:k...@nortelnetworks.com] Sent

RE: EFT/Burst

2000-06-12 Thread Mike Hopkins
You are correct for purposes of COMPLIANCE to EN55024 and application of a CE Mark, you test each line with respect to a reference ground (PE), but as I'm sure you're aware, a customer can ask for whatever they think is relevant. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com -Origin

RE: EMC vs. Exi equipment

2000-05-12 Thread Mike Hopkins
Not sure I understand what a "zener barrier" is, but if you mean there are zener diodes across the line or even in series with the line, this has no bearing on the applicability of 61000-4-5. IEC 61000-4-5 is a method of surge testing a product without regard to the signal line type, data, const

RE: Surge

2000-05-05 Thread Mike Hopkins
sting two EUT'S in parallel is justified. Only after understanding how each EUT will behave with the surge, will it be possible to determine how they will behave in parallel.. Good luck... If you have any other questions, please give me a call or email -- Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.co

RE: EN61326-1 Harmonics

2000-03-28 Thread Mike Hopkins
electronic products. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: Barry Ma [SMTP:barry...@altavista.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:40 PM > To: chr...@gnlp.com > Cc: bkundew...@qtm.net; nprov...@foxboro.com; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject:

RE: Lightning Surge Equipment

2000-03-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
of handling both the voltage (>1500V) plus the 100A surge currents. Let me know if you need help there. Mike Hopkins KeyTek > -Original Message- > From: David Spencer [SMTP:dspen...@oresis.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:16 AM > To: 'n...@world.std.com&#x

RE: Split or Not to Split?

2000-03-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
Thought this was over by now;;; but since it continues, my vote is NO split. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: Mark Hassebrock [SMTP:mhass...@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 3:46 PM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subj

RE: Similar Standards.

2000-03-08 Thread Mike Hopkins
retty complete drafts this year. Best Regards, Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: David Monreal [SMTP:dmonr...@advancedshielding.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:23 AM > To: EMC-PSTC > Subject: Similar Standards. > > > Hello

RE: Surge Testing per EN 55024/EN61000-4-5

2000-03-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
connections. For example, many television sets have two wire power plugs, are in plastic cases, but if you have cable tv, the odds are that coax cable is grounded. Same thing applies if there is a telecom line involved -- very likely one of the telecom lines is ground. .. Mike Hopkins

RE: EN61000-4-11

2000-01-25 Thread Mike Hopkins
You can't really use an AC power source for this requirement. The way its done is with a tap switched transformer (KeyTek) or via a switch between two or more variacs or other fixed ac sources. Mike Hopkins KeyTek > -Original Message- > From: fwhitfi...@rheintech.com [S

RE: EN 61000-4-2

2000-01-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
ts at each of the designated discharge points is the minimum. Mike Hopkins > -Original Message- > From: kim.boll.jen...@lasat.com [SMTP:kim.boll.jen...@lasat.com] > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 5:41 AM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: EN 61000-4-2 > > &

RE: transient suppression

2000-01-12 Thread Mike Hopkins
Keep in mind rise time (really - turn on time) doesn't mean much on the AC mains. Most specs assume the measurement is made right at the body of the device, so even short wires will add enough inductance for a fast wave to make the arguement moot. > -Original Message- > From: Dan Kwok [

RE: transient suppression

2000-01-12 Thread Mike Hopkins
nt of current and if you go over the number even slightly, they'll blow. Avalanche devices in series with a resistor or clamp are sometimes used, but not as effective as a simple MOV. Mike Hopkins KeyTek > -Original Message- > From: Robert Macy [SMTP:m...@california.com] >

RE: "Tiger Tail" for 27 MHz?

2000-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
ean loss rather than gain.. Mike Hopkins > -Original Message- > From: Lacey,Scott [SMTP:sla...@foxboro.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:33 AM > To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' > Cc: 'sla...@foxboro.com' > Subject: "Tiger Tail"

RE: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
Hope this is useful. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: David Monreal [SMTP:dmonr...@advancedshielding.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:15 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Radiation levels. > > Hi all! >

RE: Y3K

2000-01-07 Thread Mike Hopkins
t m (lower case) as milli. The 1998 EMC Encyclopedia shows M = mega and m = milli. Mike Hopkins KeyTek > -Original Message- > From: Gary McInturff [SMTP:gmcintu...@telect.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:50 PM > To: 'Egon H. Varju'; EMC-PSTC > Subje

RE: Magnetic field monitors

1999-12-17 Thread Mike Hopkins
free space induction of 1.26uT." Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: Rich Nute [SMTP:ri...@sdd.hp.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 6:02 PM > To: mhopk...@keytek.com > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: Magnetic field moni

Magnetic field monitors

1999-12-16 Thread Mike Hopkins
Our customers have asked us to supply a meter which can be used to monitor/measure magnetic fields in Amps/meter for setting up tests IAW IEC 61000-4-8. We've been offering a meter made in the U.S that reads in Gauss (seems okay for U.S. customers), but some customers in the far east are insisting

RE: IEC801-4 (1998) & EN61000-4-4

1999-12-14 Thread Mike Hopkins
for the Working Group. Thanks.... Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: Leslie Bai [SMTP:leslie_...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:22 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: IEC801-4 (1998) & EN61000-4-4 > > > Hel

RE: IEC 61000-4-28

1999-11-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
any broad sense. If product committees want to use these for compliance, they are free to do so, but the IEC guidelines in 1000-4-1 make it clear which have general applicability and which do not. This one does NOT. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From:

RE: Power Amps for Immunity Testing

1999-11-19 Thread Mike Hopkins
Try Kalmus -- Leo Smale at leosm...@seanet.com or 11807 North Creek Parkway S. Suite 109 Bothell, WA 98011 Tel: 1-800-344-3341 1-206-485-9000 Fax: 1-206-486-9657 Mike Hopkins > -Original Message- > From: dber...@wlgore.com [SMTP:dber...@wlgore.com] > Sent: Friday, November

RE: Doubt on household equipment interference

1999-09-02 Thread Mike Hopkins
Sounds like a definate "maybe"....... Mike Hopkins > -Original Message- > From: Muriel Bittencourt de Liz [SMTP:mur...@grucad.ufsc.br] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 3:55 PM > To: Lista de EMC da IEEE > Subject: Doubt on household equipment

RE: Concrete as an insulator??? -- and now FCC/FAA

1999-08-24 Thread Mike Hopkins
If I'm not mistaken, there IS an FAA regulation prohibiting the use of cell phones in airplanes -- I have the regs at home and will look it up. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: miksher...@aol.com [SMTP:miksher...@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, Augu

RE: re: EN50082-1:1997 & EN55024

1999-08-20 Thread Mike Hopkins
igher voltages -- 1kV intervals for contact mode and 2kV intervals for air discharge. It's clear these requirements will go forward -- there's just too much evidence for the existance of the phenomena, even though the reasons aren't always clearly understood for a specific EUT.

RE: GTEM cell

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Hopkins
t a draft annex is now being circulated that would allow TEM cells, but ONLY if a TEM wave can be demonstrated throughout the frequency range being used (3-axis measurement, undesired vectors > 6 db down). For emissions to EN's, TEM cells are not allowed for compliance testing. Mike Hopk

Position open with KeyTek

1999-07-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
Having seen numerous postings relating to job openings in EMC, I trust the following is not out of line: Electronic Design Engineer Position Senior electrical/electronic engineer with analog design background to work on design of KeyTek's pulsed-EMI (surge, EFT) and ESD test systems. The idea

RE: Transmission Line Theory

1999-05-13 Thread Mike Hopkins
the load. If this extra line is a single line and not paired with a return, it will likely operate as an antenna. If that line were the same impedance as the load, half the energy from the source would go to the "antenna" and half to the load... Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com >

RE: IEC61000-4-2 Amendment 1 - what is it?

1999-04-02 Thread Mike Hopkins
). Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- > From: plaw...@west.net [SMTP:plaw...@west.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 12:41 PM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: IEC61000-4-2 Amendment 1 - what is it? > > I just found out that IEC61

RE: RE: ESD in Power Station

1999-04-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
rhaps the higher levels are required NOT because ESD is more of a problem, but because a failure could be more catastrophic than in your average office. Improper switching could cause realitively large scale outages and possible damage to the system. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -

RE: I/O Surge

1999-04-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
ch greater than 42 ohms (if it's only 42 ohms for the surge voltage frequencies, you'll only get 50% of the desired surge voltage -- ohms law). Anyway, it isn't simple. If someone does have a good way of increasing the signal frequency capability of the CDN's, we'd like to

RE: ESD in Power Station

1999-04-01 Thread Mike Hopkins
all directions as soon as you entered the sub-station.. Mike Hopkins > -Original Message- > From: b...@namg.us.anritsu.com [SMTP:b...@namg.us.anritsu.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 5:36 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: ESD in Power Station > >

RE: EMC for automation & control - Electricity utilities (UNIPEDE )

1999-03-31 Thread Mike Hopkins
nge, but a 15kV discharge from the end of your finger is something you'd remember! Even 10kV is pretty uncomfortable.. Hope this is helpful, but I doubt it would influence the people who wrote the standard... Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com > -Original Message- >

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