ugp01 [mailto:doug...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer
Never heard of this in Europe, for N.A. look at this video.
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/perspectives/consumer/productsafety/tu
example)
Not a lawyer by either trade nor inclination
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From: John Shinn [mailto:jmsh...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer
Peter is correct. The Lawyers will usuall
Peter is correct. The Lawyers will usually list everyone
remotely associated with the product, including the
retailer who sold it.
John Shinn
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From: Peter Tarver
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elves.
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Date:
11/15/2011 10:55 AM
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Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat
> From: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com
[mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 08:51
>
> I don't think UL would be sued; the manufacturer is ultimately liable.
The is little or no
> benefit of 3rd party certification of a product under Tort law.
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I don't think UL would be sued; the manufacturer is ultimately liable. The is
little
ctric | Renewable Energies Business |
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John Woodgate
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Date:
11/14/2011 10:50 PM
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Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer
In message <4ec19e99.7060...@aol.com>, dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Derek
Walton
In message , dated Tue, 15 Nov 2011,
John Woodgate writes:
In message
o
soft.com>, dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Ted Eckert
writes:
If the fryer is used by laymen, IEC 60335-2-13 is likely the correct
standard. Its scope includes the following text.
"Appliances intended for normal household
In message , dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011,
John Woodgate writes:
In message , dated
Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Pete Perkins writes:
Looking for input on requirements for CE marking of a commercial
deep-fat fryer.
What's the latest?
IEC 60335-2-13
Edition 6.0 (2009-12-14)
Household and simi
In message ,
dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Nick Williams
writes:
60335-2-37 is for commercial appliances but isn't much use for gas
fired or food factory type equipment.
That's peculiar: I thought that such a standard existed but a search of
the IEC SC61E web site didn't show it. I think I know
In message
soft.com>, dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Ted Eckert
writes:
If the fryer is used by laymen, IEC 60335-2-13 is likely the correct
standard. Its scope includes the following text.
"Appliances intended for normal household and similar use and that may
also be used by laymen in shops, in
In message <4ec19e99.7060...@aol.com>, dated Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Derek
Walton writes:
I guess I find this nonsense. ANYTHING abused looks dangerous.
More examples of Nanny state control.
Yes, but if they didn't do it, UL would be sued for $100 by
everyone who sets their fryer o
iarmid | Schneider Electric | Renewable Energies Business |
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From:
Ken Javor
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Date:
11/14/2011 03:23 PM
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Well, UL is a company, not the gov't. Agree the gov't
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Richard Nute
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Date:
11/14/2011 03:20 PM
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These are not necessarily problems due to the fryer
itself. Instead, the problems
Hi Doug,
I guess I find this nonsense. ANYTHING abused looks dangerous.
More examples of Nanny state control.
Cheers,
Derek.
On 11/14/2011 4:13 PM, dougp01 wrote:
Never heard of this in Europe, for N.A. look at this video.
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/perspectives/consumer
,
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AMRe: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat
fryer
emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf
> Of Derek Walton
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:05 PM
> To: dougp01
> Cc: Pete Perkins; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> I guess I find th
nt: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Pete Perkins; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking of deep-fat fryer
Never heard of this in Europe, for N.A. look at this video.
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/perspectives/consumer/productsafety/turkeys/
d
have every
right to refrain from certifying it. That shouldn't mean that it isn't
available on the market, just that UL hasn't blessed it.
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
> From: Derek Walton
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:04:57 -0600
> To: dougp01
> Cc: Pete Perkins ,
60335-2-37 is for commercial appliances but isn't much use for gas fired or
food factory type equipment.
Nick.
On 14 Nov 2011, at 22:14, John Woodgate wrote:
> In message , dated Mon, 14
> Nov 2011, Pete Perkins writes:
>
>> Looking for input on requirements for CE marking of a co
Never heard of this in Europe, for N.A. look at this video.
http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/perspectives/consumer/productsafety/turkeys/
doug powell
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From: Pete Perkins
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:00 PM
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Subject: [PS
If the fryer is used by laymen, IEC 60335-2-13 is likely the correct standard.
Its scope includes the following text.
"Appliances intended for normal household and similar use and that may also be
used by laymen in shops, in light industry and on farms are within the scope of
this standard. Ho
In message , dated
Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Pete Perkins writes:
Looking for input on requirements for CE marking of a commercial
deep-fat fryer.
What's the latest?
IEC 60335-2-13
Edition 6.0 (2009-12-14)
Household and similar electrical appliances - Safety - Part 2-13:
Particular req
Hi Pete,
By commercial, do you mean for use in a restaurant or retail (take away)
environment or in a food factory?
Is it gas heated or electric?
Any powered moving parts?
Nick.
On 14 Nov 2011, at 21:00, Pete Perkins wrote:
> PSNet,
>
> Looking for input on requirements for CE marki
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