Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts & probably 100 ma average, I >> found that spinning the electrode at around 1k rpms seemed to add enough >> agitation to the oil that I could use it all up and go about 30 thou >> befor

Re: [Emc-users] m101 Turret Program

2007-08-20 Thread Chris Morley
Hey Kirk Just cause I'm curious, Why didn't you use classicladder to select tools from your turret? It has timers good to 100ms min. Then you could use the tool pins from emcmot to control the turret -automating tool changes to use regular T and M codes,instead of using M101- or you could use

[Emc-users] voting

2007-08-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Who votes? thanks Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Downloa

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, We cheat. The edm uses through the spindle/tool flushing and dielectric oil. The electrode is a copper tube. The tube is not completely hollow. The tube has a web in the center of it. This allows it to remove the whole plug instead of leaving a core. You will have the same flushi

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-20 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > > Understood. In playing tonight with 25 volts & probably 100 ma average, I > found that spinning the electrode at around 1k rpms seemed to add enough > agitation to the oil that I could use it all up and go about 30 thou before I > had to vacuum it out and refresh it, wi

[Emc-users] m101 Turret Program

2007-08-20 Thread Kirk Wallace
I made my first m101 program for my lathe today. I wrote a g-code file to test the turret setup: % m64p1(turn turret rotate solenoid on) g4p.2(wait 200ms) m64p2(turn turret stop solenoid on) g4p.2(wait 200ms for turret to slow to stop) m65p1(turn turret rotate solenoid off) g4p

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Engvall
On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 20 August 2007, Dave Engvall wrote: >> Hi Gene, >> >> Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric. > > How about fuel oil, as in what you'd feed one of those horizontal tank > heaters? It seems as usable as anything el

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2007, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Gentlemen, >I asked our EDM operator what parameters he would use with your >setup to get the 6/32 tap out of the steel. He set it up in our >LeBlond Makino EDNC 65. His recommendation is 30 volts DC, 1 amp and >10 rpm, dry with compressed air.

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 03:03:27PM -0600, Ryan Hulsker wrote: > > A question about feed rates. From the quick testing I have just done it > looks like it always tries to apply the feed rate to the XY axes, and > scales the feed rate for the UV to match so that they all reach their > end point at t

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2007, Dave Engvall wrote: >Hi Gene, > >Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric. How about fuel oil, as in what you'd feed one of those horizontal tank heaters? It seems as usable as anything else & I've got 5 gallons of it getting old, cuz I fired it up

Re: [Emc-users] interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, The talk of head position reminds me. When I was a young teen my Dad told me he was going to take me to the doctor ot get a plexiglass plate installed in my stomach. This would allow me to see out when I had my head up my A$$. Several times I have wished he had had that installed. :

Re: [Emc-users] EDM

2007-08-20 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I asked our EDM operator what parameters he would use with your setup to get the 6/32 tap out of the steel. He set it up in our LeBlond Makino EDNC 65. His recommendation is 30 volts DC, 1 amp and 10 rpm, dry with compressed air. The fluid, whether it is dielectric petroleum products

Re: [Emc-users] board election results

2007-08-20 Thread Michael Cornelius
Voting data: 526 email addresses for eligible voters 7 bounces 73 ballots returned The rate of response was approximately 14%. 332 out 365 (73*5) votes were cast. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still gr

[Emc-users] board election results

2007-08-20 Thread Michael Cornelius
The voting has been closed and the results counted. The final tally is as follows: 63 Alex Joni 60 Chris Radek 58 John Kasunich 55 Jeff Epler 43 Stephen Wille Padnos 28 Sam Sokolik 25 Dan Falck The newly elected members of the board are, in order of total votes received Alex Joni C

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Gene, Paraffin oil aka lamp oil is pretty close to EDM dielectric. Using 70 -90 V for your DC supply and something on the order of 10 uf with a resistor in the 20-50 ohm range should get you an RC circuit that will be close. A bit if component substitution will get you to an acceptable

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Jeff Epler
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 03:03:27PM -0600, Ryan Hulsker wrote: > Ok, thanks for your help (Chris too), I seem to have it working now. Yay! I am excited to hear it. If you want to, create a page on our wiki (wiki.linuxcnc.org, follow instructions on page "BasicSteps" to be able to add & edit pages

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Excellent post, John. John Prentice wrote: >Greetings > > > >From: "Andre' Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>At 10:39 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: >> >> >>>I beg to differ. >>> >>> > > > >>The work offset numbers are available in EMC but, how to access the tool >>table values in EMC?

Re: [Emc-users] interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Dale
I started programming NC machine using calculator paper and pencil, then typed it all out to tape on a flexowriter or simply used mdi ti input what I wanted the machine to do. There was no sense in punching a tape since it was a one time job. Punching tape was just one more step where an error

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Ray Henry
Hi Ken I've not tried this with your modified interpreter but with the old one, you could save a variable from run to run if you manually add it's numeric name and value to the .var file. That done, it will take whatever value it's holds at the end of a run. Rayh On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 11:51 -04

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2007, Jack Ensor wrote: >Gene - I think that if you were to build a dam around the part with >modeling clay and fill with kerosene might help speed things up. Keep >in mind that kero is flammable so take care. Just my 2 cents worth - >I've never done it. I'm using cutting oi

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 16, Issue 46

2007-08-20 Thread Harri Son
hey all is there a set of files or instructions for those using EMC with a hobbycnc board? apparently this was discussed just prior to my joining the mailing list, but i couldnt find anything in the archives - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Ryan Hulsker
Ok, thanks for your help (Chris too), I seem to have it working now. In the ini file I have AXES = 8 COORDINATES = X Y U V HOME = 0 0 0 0 And [AXIS_6] and [AXIS_7] sections instead of the 2 and 3 I had before. And in my "core_foam_stepper.hal" I change

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Jeff Epler
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 02:59:39PM -0500, Jeff Epler wrote: > [TRAJ]AXES should probably be set to 8. Here's the explanation from the > documentation: > One more than the number of the highest joint number in the system. > For an XYZ machine, the joints are numbered 0, 1 and 2; in this cas

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 01:24:57PM -0600, Ryan Hulsker wrote: > Ok, so i solved that first problem (i had actually forgotten to set > "axes" to 4. > > Now I am getting this problem. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_config/index.html#SECTION00136000

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Jeff Epler
[TRAJ]AXES should probably be set to 8. Here's the explanation from the documentation: One more than the number of the highest joint number in the system. For an XYZ machine, the joints are numbered 0, 1 and 2; in this case AXES should be 3. For an XYUV machine using ``trivial kinemati

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Dale
Ray, Fanuc used the O word to be the program name or filename and one could be called and used by another. I could possibly find an example of the advanced capabilities of the Fanuc I used to run if you wish. Dale Ray Henry wrote: > Yea he has! > > On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 09:36 -0400, Ron Ginge

[Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Ryan Hulsker
I completed building my 4 axis hotwire foam cutter this weekend and am trying to get EMC2 to work with it. I checked out emc2-head yesterday and managed to get it to compile (run in place) and it seems to run ok with the default "stepper_mm" configuration. So i decided to use this as a base to c

Re: [Emc-users] Foam cutting configuration

2007-08-20 Thread Ryan Hulsker
Ok, so i solved that first problem (i had actually forgotten to set "axes" to 4. Now I am getting this problem. Seems Axis may not handle 4 axes? Is there another front end I should be using? EMC2 - pre-2.2 CVS HEAD Machine configuration directory is '/home/rhulsker/emcsource/emc2-trunk/script

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread John Prentice
Greetings From: "Andre' Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 10:39 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: >>I beg to differ. > The work offset numbers are available in EMC but, how to access the tool > table values in EMC? > These move around a lot on different machines but are usually around > #2000 or #

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Manfredi Leto
>However, I see application for the much simpler Interactive work. My >example would be a 3 axis mill, om which I want to do a simple set of >tasks like face off some stock, drill a bolt circle, then maybe mill a >couple circular pockets around it. Yes, one could go to the CAD system, >draw it all

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Dale
What you're talking about here, I can do with a combination of manual and mdi. Using gcode when appropriate and manual positioning (jog). It is just as easy to manually operate a cnc as it is to operate a bridgeport with DRO. Actually can be easier? no languages required. as for bolt circles and

[Emc-users] geneditStart in AXIS

2007-08-20 Thread Jaime Pozo
Hi, How can i use genediStart (genedit.tcl) in AXIS? I want to edit a tooltable file like in tkemc (in menu tab) Thanks, J.J. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
butting in here.. isn't this leaning towards robotics? You'd want to issue a command, like 'face end'. The control program then sends generated G-code and receives feedback to/from the lathe to find and measure the workpiece. It then selects a tool, speed, and faces it off until there's a clean s

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 10:39 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: >I beg to differ. > >From the Language Features in that pdf. I see only 2 missing from emc2: > >- conversion functions (BCD to BIN, BIN to BCD) >and >- Printing of values to a serial port > >Additionally, I'm not sure what "System Variables to read and write a >var

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Alex Joni
> ??? ? Permanent Common Variables that keep their > values even when power is turned off Actually emc2 does have that, as a somehow hidden feature. If you put a parameter in your .var file, the interpreter will save the last value on shutdown, and reload it the next time emc2 runs. All the

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Hugh Currin
Ron: I didn't fully understand the intent. You're aiming for tools to do relatively simple tasks while at the machine. This would be handy during "manual" machining, i.e. additional functionality along with jog and MDI. What you would like is a simple menu driven CAM package. In this you select

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Kenneth Lerman
EMC has most of the functionality shown on the link you provided. Language Features YES ? Local Variables for passing parameters and for intermediate calculations within a macro YES ? Common Variables shared by all macros ??? ? Permanent Common Variables that keep their values even wh

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Alex Joni
I beg to differ. >From the Language Features in that pdf. I see only 2 missing from emc2: - conversion functions (BCD to BIN, BIN to BCD) and - Printing of values to a serial port Additionally, I'm not sure what "System Variables to read and write a variety of CNC data items and generate alarm m

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Mike Cinquino
Ron, What I have been playing with is using Gambas (a VB like language for linux) http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ to generate a .nc file. My Gamabs code creates a "Conversational" application that can run right with EMC running. I can then append or over write the .nc file depending on what I wa

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 09:06 AM 8/20/2007, you wrote: >One of the things that often happens in these parts is that some folk >are much more comfortable with software programming with it's loops and >jumps and fancy maths and find g-code to be awkward. I don't have a >problem with that and supported the O word as an e

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Ron Ginger
> What I do find disturbing is the attempt to bypass the interpreter > entirely. My thoughts here will be old hat to many readers. I'm really > bothered by some scripting language telling to machine to go to x3000m > without testing that command to the limits of the device as recorded in > a conf

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Do you mean something like: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?G-Wiz The idea of this is that a GUI would let you generate calls to predefined gcode subroutines. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Kenny Products Company, LLC 55 Main Street Voice: (888)ISO-SEVO (888)476-7386 Newtown, CT 0

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Ray Henry
Yea he has! On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 09:36 -0400, Ron Ginger wrote: > Jon, Ray, some others may recall Ive been beating this > drum for years, starting back at NAMES several years ago with my Win 3.1 > VB code to mimic the Acurite control. One of the things that often happens in these parts is

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Ron Ginger
I am not for a second suggesting Interactive machining should replace conventional CAD-CAM, Gcode generation. As Stuart describes there are large complex machines for which Gcode is the appropriate tool, and EMC works very well. However, I see application for the much simpler Interactive work.

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Jack Ensor
Gene - I think that if you were to build a dam around the part with modeling clay and fill with kerosene might help speed things up. Keep in mind that kero is flammable so take care. Just my 2 cents worth - I've never done it. By the way, I submitted an article to "Digital Machining" describ

Re: [Emc-users] EDM question from a noobie at it

2007-08-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 August 2007, Jon Elson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings everybody; >> >> I was working on the frame for my new z axis drive for that micro-mill, >> and have managed now to break off not one, but 2, 6-nc32 taps in the holes >> drilled into the edge of a piece of 1/4"x1.5" steel

Re: [Emc-users] Interactive machining

2007-08-20 Thread Ron Ginger
Jeff Epler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > In emc, there are lots of ways to interact with the running system > besides using gcode. > >. > > The problem is not that emc is not customizable and extensible in a wide > variety of ways -- the problem is a lack of documentation and examples

Re: [Emc-users] Axis File Open

2007-08-20 Thread Jeff Epler
In one of the other sample configurations (sim/axis), the [FILTER] section looks like this: [FILTER] PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .png,.gif,.jpg Grayscale Depth Image PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script png = image-to-gcode gif = image-to-gcode jpg = image-to-gcode

Re: [Emc-users] Axis File Open

2007-08-20 Thread John Thornton
Thanks Jeff I did not find a section [FILTER] so I added to my stepper_inch.ini file and it worked. I did find a reference in the user manual to [FILTER] Now it shows the following filters: All machinable files (*.[nN][gG][cC],*ngc) rs274ngc files (*.ngc) rs274ngc (*.[nN][gG][cC]) All files (*)