Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, John Kasunich wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> And why are my posts taking a week to get posted, this is Oct 4, 2008, my >> 74th birthday, and I actually sent this on the 28th of Sept., 2008. >> >> Something is busted

Re: [Emc-users] 7i43 after updating to 2.2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Richard Acosta wrote: > OK, i have reinstalled linux because i could not connect to internet > using pppoe with ubuntu/emc2 downloaded from linuxcnc.org as a full CD > image. > Since i know nothing about CVS, and a little bit more about compiling, i > decided not to take that way. > Finally i ac

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
Oops, indeed. I'd already found that last night, but forgot all about it today. Thanks! -g On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Ray Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 17:49 -0700, Gary Fixler wrote: > > > Am I getting close to a useful value yet? > > -Gary > oops > > http://wiki

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Saturday 04 October 2008, Gary Fixler wrote: >>Thanks for the info, Gene. >> >>You've got me worried about my 8800GTX in my newest box here :) It's about >> 8 months old now I guess. > >I believe, but could be wrong, that that is one of the ones

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, John Kasunich wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> And why are my posts taking a week to get posted, this is Oct 4, 2008, my >> 74th birthday, and I actually sent this on the 28th of Sept., 2008. >> >> Something is busted

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Jon Elson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> It's been exactly the opposite here on this house box Jon. > >Well, interesting. This computer has an Nvidia MX440 AGP graphics >board, maybe that makes a difference. Certainly no disk corruption >going on. I run VMware and Wi

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, tomp wrote: >happy birthday Gene ! > Thanks Tomp, I obviously appreciate every one of them I get. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) As I currently

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Gary Fixler wrote: >Thanks for the info, Gene. > >You've got me worried about my 8800GTX in my newest box here :) It's about 8 >months old now I guess. I believe, but could be wrong, that that is one of the ones involved in the class action suits being filed. There i

[Emc-users] Could my GeForce4 Ti 4600 simply be too underpowered?

2008-10-04 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Gary; Your GeForce4 Ti 4600 is not underpowered, its Overpowered with propreitary hardware accel. This is a gamers card - it RELIES on having the graphics data filtered/modified by the CPU using DX8. Without that preprocessing its kinda lost. Nvidia won't release parts of there driver specs as

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Ray Henry
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 17:49 -0700, Gary Fixler wrote: > > Am I getting close to a useful value yet? > -Gary Try this for comparisons. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TestedHardware - This SF.Net email is sp

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Ray Henry
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 17:49 -0700, Gary Fixler wrote: > Am I getting close to a useful value yet? > -Gary oops http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > It's been exactly the opposite here on this house box Jon. Well, interesting. This computer has an Nvidia MX440 AGP graphics board, maybe that makes a difference. Certainly no disk corruption going on. I run VMware and Windows 2000 Pro on the same system simultaneously,

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
A bit more success... I went into the Services under the Admin menu and turned off: Actions scheduler (anacron) Actions scheduler (atd) Audio settings management (alsa-utils) - I think this one had been off Bluetooth device management (bluetooth) Computer activity logger (klogd) Computer activity

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread tomp
happy birthday Gene ! - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Sourc

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And why are my posts taking a week to get posted, this is Oct 4, 2008, my > 74th > birthday, and I actually sent this on the 28th of Sept., 2008. > > Something is busted, big time. > > Yep. I found this on their site

Re: [Emc-users] How does axis communicate with emc?

2008-10-04 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Alan, Are you trying to directly send motion commands to EMC or just want to write your own .NET based custom user interface? If the latter, there are much easier ways than going through NML. Regards, Eric I am interested in understanding how Axis communicates with emc because I want to try send

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
Hi John, I've had several suggestions (one off-list) to drop the nvidia driver entirely, and it's working. My test steps have been to pop open Firefox, send it to the Fantastic Contraption game (Flash, and heavy, but fun), wiggle windows a bit, then open glxgears, wiggle it about, surf for a few m

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
Thanks, Dirk! Seems the nvidia blob is the culprit, or the biggest one anyway. The nv driver was a lot better, and vesa better still. Shame I have to deal with the clunkier graphics and refresh rate now. Maybe we should all start a letter-writing campaign to Nvidia to open their drivers, or at lea

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
Thanks for the info, Gene. You've got me worried about my 8800GTX in my newest box here :) It's about 8 months old now I guess. It's definitely using a card, not onboard video, and your suggestions about the alternate drivers are making a big difference. Thanks! -g On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:03 A

Re: [Emc-users] sai folder

2008-10-04 Thread Alex Joni
sai stands for stand alone interpreter. It allows build of a stand alone (works by itself) interpreter, which - when you interpret a program - only generates a bunch of text lines (canonical commands). It's mostly usefull for debugging, studying the interpreter. Regards, Alex - Original Mes

[Emc-users] 7i43 after updating to 2.2.6

2008-10-04 Thread Richard Acosta
OK, i have reinstalled linux because i could not connect to internet using pppoe with ubuntu/emc2 downloaded from linuxcnc.org as a full CD image. Since i know nothing about CVS, and a little bit more about compiling, i decided not to take that way. Finally i achieved to install normal ubuntu, t

Re: [Emc-users] Looking for "cmoma" ?

2008-10-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 15:38 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Hello, hate to do this on the list. > > I got a call on my crummy answering machine a couple days ago about my > resolver converters from a guy who said his email address was, as best > as I could get it, cmoma (at) garlic (dot) com, and

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Dirk
On 4 okt 2008, at 08:46, Gary Fixler wrote: > I tried to send a message last night, but it never showed up on the > list. I have the worst time getting messages through. > > Basically, I'm on an aging Shuttle PC from 2002 with an Nvidia > GeForce4 Ti 4600. If I am not mistaking this came up

Re: [Emc-users] Pentium II and ubuntu

2008-10-04 Thread tomp
Tod, latency is not in ubuntu or emc its in hardware that takes control of the system communications when emc needs to do hear or say something hth tomp Tod Spooner wrote: > Hello I have managed to find the cause of the install crash. It seems as > though the hard drive had several bad sectors >

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And why are my posts taking a week to get posted, this is Oct 4, 2008, my > 74th > birthday, and I actually sent this on the 28th of Sept., 2008. > > Something is busted, big time. Sourceforge has been doing a bunch of

Re: [Emc-users] Pentium II and ubuntu

2008-10-04 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:50:24PM -0700, Tod Spooner wrote: > > Can ubuntu be pared down to the bare minimum in order to improve latancy? Removing installed software packages will not change the latency. Latency is almost entirely a consequence of your hardware. What are your numbers currently?

Re: [Emc-users] No version for "nano2count" found

2008-10-04 Thread paul_c
On Thursday 02 October 2008, Евгений Александрович wrote: > rtapi: No version for "nano2count" found: kernel tained. > > Is it problem or just information message? > If it is a problem, what could be wrong? It is a compile time problem that is easily solved - What kernel & RTAI versions are you u

Re: [Emc-users] No version for "nano2count" found

2008-10-04 Thread Jeff Epler
Евгений Александрович wrote: > > Hello > > > > I still try to build puppy base system. > > > > Now I have problem on system start > > > > rtapi: No version for "nano2count" found: kernel tained. > > > > Is it problem or just information message? > > If it is a problem, what could be wrong? Thi

[Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
I haven't been around for awhile (too many other hobbies :), but I've finally come back and upgraded with the liveCD to 8.04, and I quite like what I see so far. Installation was a breeze, and everything is set up nicely. Great work, guys! I'm on a Sherline mill/lathe system with their driver box,

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 28 September 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: And why are my posts taking a week to get posted, this is Oct 4, 2008, my 74th birthday, and I actually sent this on the 28th of Sept., 2008. Something is busted, big time. >On Saturday 27 September 2008, Jon Elson wrote: >>Gene Heskett wrote: >>

[Emc-users] Pentium II and ubuntu

2008-10-04 Thread Tod Spooner
Hello I have managed to find the cause of the install crash. It seems as though the hard drive had several bad sectors which caused the ubuntu install to fail. To ubuntus credit the install failed with style and included an error message and a return to the live CD desktop. I now have ubuntu ins

Re: [Emc-users] Errors when trying to start EMC2 with Mesa 7i43

2008-10-04 Thread Richard Acosta
OK, i have reinstalled linux because i could not connect to internet using pppoe with ubuntu/emc2 from linuxcnc.org. Since i know nothing about CVS, and a little bit more about compiling, i decided not to take that way. Finally i achieved to install normal ubuntu, then emc2 and rtai kernel using

Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working

2008-10-04 Thread Greg Michalski
Thanks for the suggestion - will keep it in mind. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com - Original Message - From: Alex Joni To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working well.. not

Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working

2008-10-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 16:40 -0400, Greg Michalski wrote: > Alex - Similar question - I have a "My Essentials" (aka Belkin) USB > b/g adapter that I couldn't get to run on my 6.06 which I abandoned > after following several of the different driver wrap guides I found > online at the time (before I j

Re: [Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working

2008-10-04 Thread Jeff Epler
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 02:42:54PM -0500, Bryce Johnson wrote: > One thing that is a little annoying. I have pcmcia wireless card that works > fine in regular ubuntu. But when I run the rtai kernel version that the > script generated, my wireless no longer works. Does the pcmcia or certain > wir

[Emc-users] Laptop Pcmcia wireless not working

2008-10-04 Thread Bryce Johnson
I'm just started to use emc and I have cut out just a few things. I was surprised that it worked fine even though it is a 700mhz 128ram... and a laptop at that. I had ubuntu 8.04 installed and later ran the script to install emc. One thing that is a little annoying. I have pcmcia wireless card

[Emc-users] sai folder

2008-10-04 Thread An Pham Duc
I don't understand the role of sai folder in emc2. could you help me show what it is? thank you. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Mob

[Emc-users] demo lathe code?

2008-10-04 Thread l.collier hyams
Thanks for your responses. It may help for me to run a few test gcode files. Can anyone recommend gcode for machining writing pens or spindles in the neighborhood of <1"x<12"? I believe I need to watch the actual machining, read the code and make mental notes. --

[Emc-users] How does axis communicate with emc?

2008-10-04 Thread alan
I am interested in understanding how Axis communicates with emc because I want to try sending NML messages to emc from a c# application running under mono (we all have strange interests of one sort or another!!). Can someone suggest a starting point for me. I am new to linux but have been a program

Re: [Emc-users] Errors when trying to start EMC2 with Mesa 7i43

2008-10-04 Thread Richard Acosta
OK!... thanks a lot! El 28/09/2008 11:47 p.m., Sebastian Kuzminsky escribió: Richard Acosta wrote: This 3 are samples for waath i have understand i have to do, but, still with no luck on making EMC2 work with this card. I have based this on the 5120 sample config files found on EMC2 CD. K

Re: [Emc-users] Stop and Go

2008-10-04 Thread Jimmy Schneiderman
Dear Ray, Attached my .ini file The circle is generate by SurfCam Program, therefore is a buch of points. Looking forward hearing from you. Regards, Jimmy -- Forwarded message -- From: Ray Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/9/23 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stop and Go To: "Enhan

[Emc-users] Looking for "cmoma" ?

2008-10-04 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, hate to do this on the list. I got a call on my crummy answering machine a couple days ago about my resolver converters from a guy who said his email address was, as best as I could get it, cmoma (at) garlic (dot) com, and he started to give his phone number as 408- when the answeri

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper drivers

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 28 September 2008, Ian Wright wrote: >Ian, I think it's great that you would build your own driver. > >But to do so is not for the sake of saving money. >Maybe as a learning excersize, but not to save money.>>> > >Thanks for the replies guys - from all the traffic I seem

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper drivers

2008-10-04 Thread Jon Elson
Dean Hedin wrote: > Ian, I think it's great that you would build your own driver. > But to do so is not for the sake of saving money. > Maybe as a learning excersize, but not to save money. > > Once you figure in your time and effort, you won't beat the cost of an off > the shelf unit as Dave has

Re: [Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-10-04 Thread Jim Coleman
your base period and those timings need adjusted to a higher number, the computer isnt able to keep up with the speeds the configs are trying to run. these are in the stepper_mm.ini file. this talks about using the latency test to set the timings. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Tweak

Re: [Emc-users] SMI-Like latency problems that don't respond to rtapi_smi.ko fix

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 27 September 2008, Jon Elson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> I don't know if this has any bearing or not for you, but I have an nvidia >> card on my emc box, and had to switch it to use the vesa driver to get >> that under control. The nvidia binary blob was truly terrible, the nv >> dr

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 29, Issue 62

2008-10-04 Thread Michael Stumpp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to

Re: [Emc-users] Arduino with Ubuntu 8.04

2008-10-04 Thread sam sokolik
I am home - what do you want to do about suzi? love you sam - Original Message - From: "Steve Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Arduino with Ubuntu 8.04 The final piece of the jigsa

Re: [Emc-users] Problem on EMC2 starting with rtai_hall.ko

2008-10-04 Thread paul_c
Hi Evgeny On Thursday 25 September 2008, Евгений Александрович wrote: > > sounds like rtai is already loaded. Either you compiled it into the > > kernel, not as a module. > What do you mean. Did I somesing worng in kernel? It is impossible to "compile rtai_hal" in to the kernel - The Makefile a

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread John Kasunich
Gary Fixler wrote: > I tried to send a message last night, but it never showed up on the list. I > have the worst time getting messages through. > > Basically, I'm on an aging Shuttle PC from 2002 with an Nvidia GeForce4 Ti > 4600. When I start up latency-test, I'm in the single-digit thousands, l

Re: [Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 October 2008, Gary Fixler wrote: >I tried to send a message last night, but it never showed up on the list. I >have the worst time getting messages through. > >Basically, I'm on an aging Shuttle PC from 2002 with an Nvidia GeForce4 Ti >4600. When I start up latency-test, I'm in the s

Re: [Emc-users] Arduino with Ubuntu 8.04

2008-10-04 Thread Steve Hobbs
Works perfectly - both the Arduino comms (ftdi_sio) and EMC2. Thank you. Steve On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 19:48 -0500, Jeff Epler wrote: > Alex Joni has uploaded a new version of the kernel package which > includes the ftdi_sio driver. If you can, please try the new kernel > package by downloading >

[Emc-users] terrible latency on older Shuttle + Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600

2008-10-04 Thread Gary Fixler
I tried to send a message last night, but it never showed up on the list. I have the worst time getting messages through. Basically, I'm on an aging Shuttle PC from 2002 with an Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4600. When I start up latency-test, I'm in the single-digit thousands, like 6500 or so. If I play aro