Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 16:49 -0400, cogoman wrote: ... snip >I have a seminal idea I'm trying to reason out (or away.) A while > ago there was a thread here about interfacing to an ARM micro-controller > on the parallel port. I expected EMC2 to read position data for 4 or 5 > axes from the

Re: [Emc-users] touchy interface

2011-08-12 Thread Farzin Kamangar
Hi Andy, The version of my EMC2 is 2.4.3. I do not whether the problem has been fixed on this version or not. Farzin On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:42 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 10 August 2011 06:35, Farzin Kamangar > wrote: > > Dear EMC users, > > Hi, I am using the TOUCHY interface and I ha

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread Edward Bernard
> >From: Jon Elson >To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:06 PM >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion > >andy pugh wrote: >> On 12 August 2011 22:34, For Sale Sticker wrote: >> >>  >>> My drivers ar

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: > On 12 August 2011 22:34, For Sale Sticker wrote: > > >> My drivers are IB106 (I know they are old) and here is a datasheet I found: >> > > http://imshome.com/downloads/manuals/ib.pdf > > Page 13. > OK, these are not microstepping drives, and thus subject to resonance

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread Jon Elson
cogoman wrote: > I expected EMC2 to read position data for 4 or 5 > axes from the P-port, read homing and limit switch states, do some > calculations with the data, and then send velocity information for 5 > axes back to the P-port. I'm thinking about a stepper system that would > use existi

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread Jon Elson
cogoman wrote: > What is the sequence of messages sent and received to an FPGA parallel > port servo card at each servo interval? I looked on the wiki and > couldn't find this information. What all goes on when controlling 3 > servos over the parallel port? > Some of this may be considered

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 14:34 -0700, For Sale Sticker wrote: > > > Could this be a configuration issue (possibly my > > driver timing settings [step time, step space, direction > > hold, direction setup] I didn't know what to put so I have > > 5000 on all of these), or a mechanical issue, or an issue

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 22:34, For Sale Sticker wrote: > My drivers are IB106 (I know they are old) and here is a datasheet I found: http://imshome.com/downloads/manuals/ib.pdf Page 13. -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" ---

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread For Sale Sticker
> > Could this be a configuration issue (possibly my > driver timing settings [step time, step space, direction > hold, direction setup] I didn't know what to put so I have > 5000 on all of these), or a mechanical issue, or an issue > with electronics, or my computer? > > > > What should I check ne

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 8/12/2011 9:08 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > One of the machines is an "Anca Fastgrind" CNC tool and cutter grinder. > Similar to this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/140588368305 > > According to the seller, it has a "bad motherboard". The seller is an > extremely honest man, according to my 11 ye

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread cogoman
On 08/12/2011 02:10 PM, andy pugh wrote: > This is a simplification. Address auto-indexing and translation ram > (where contguous memory addresses link to non-contiguous registers) > confuse the matter. > > Why are you asking? This is a simplification. Address auto-indexing and translation ram (wh

Re: [Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 08/12/2011 02:28 PM, For Sale Sticker wrote: > Could this be a configuration issue (possibly my driver timing settings [step > time, step space, direction hold, direction setup] I didn't know what to put > so I have 5000 on all of these), or a mechanical issue, or an issue with > electronics,

[Emc-users] 3d machine issue on new emc conversion

2011-08-12 Thread For Sale Sticker
So I now have my machine up and running on EMC (Wahoo) but I am running into a machining issue. The issue comes up when machining a 3D part. see photo: http://www.forsalesticker.com/fooBarStar.jpg The star is cut using an 1/8 ball end mill. The cutter goes to a depth of .25 inch and then fol

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 11:49 -0700, Karl Cunningham wrote: ... snip > One of the inputs is the "reset" line, > which indicates the hardware is finished with the current operation. Just in case anyone else wants more changer information: http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuoka/atc_manua

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
The problem with this is an enormous amount of room and capital required. Plus, this is just not my style -- though I respect the fact that other people may make other choices. i On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: > I agree with Kirk, I have a web site with obscure part numbe

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Dave Caroline
I agree with Kirk, I have a web site with obscure part numbers of parts I have with some silly prices eventually one gets lucky and ship some ICs or motors around the world. Dave Caroline On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 09:53 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
I call this approach "waiting for a sucker". I do not personally practice it, and sell everything a little below market prices. I think about buying/selling in the way that I make money when I buy. i On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 09:53 -0500, Igor

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Cunningham
Andy, Kirk, Chris, Kyle, Thanks for the replies and info. Combining my response into one post to avoid clutter... The relay contacts are coming into a Mesa 7i37 board. My concern is both from glitches and contact bounce. One of the inputs is the "reset" line, which indicates the hardware is fi

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 09:53 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > My guess is that it is not worth $20k. At best it would be worth $14k or so. > > Lots of dreamers on ebay asking for a pie in the sky. > > I have never been like that and I despise this approach to business. > > That said, if i can fix it i

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 17:28, Chris Radek wrote: > Also consider that since the HAL model for GPIO is essentially one > that polls inputs (is not edge triggered) you need to have some fairly > mighty bounces to cause problems. This is a very good point. If, say, the contact bounces and you read a fal

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Kyle Kerr
Is there any reason to not debounce the relay with something like a capacitor? -- FREE DOWNLOAD - uberSVN with Social Coding for Subversion. Subversion made easy with a complete admin console. Easy to use, easy to manage,

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: > My guess is that it is not worth $20k. At best it would be worth $14k or so. > $20K for a machine with no parts availability or factory support? Yeah, you'd BETTER get both of those on eBay, to have one for spares! Having bought a machine from a well-known machine tool b

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:09:12AM -0700, Karl Cunningham wrote: > I'm designing a real-time hal component to control a Dana Summit tool > changer, and there are a couple of hardware lines from the tool changer > that feed signals back to the hal component. The lines come from relay > contacts a

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 10:31 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On 12 August 2011 08:09, Karl Cunningham wrote: > > > I have no problem with the debounce logic, my question is one of pros > > and cons and customs. Is it preferred to have all functions like this > > contained within the one component? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 16:56, cogoman wrote: > What is the sequence of messages sent and received to an FPGA parallel > port servo card at each servo interval?  I looked on the wiki and > couldn't find this information.  What all goes on when controlling 3 > servos over the parallel port? Are you talk

[Emc-users] Parallel port messages... What happens?

2011-08-12 Thread cogoman
What is the sequence of messages sent and received to an FPGA parallel port servo card at each servo interval? I looked on the wiki and couldn't find this information. What all goes on when controlling 3 servos over the parallel port? --

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
My guess is that it is not worth $20k. At best it would be worth $14k or so. Lots of dreamers on ebay asking for a pie in the sky. I have never been like that and I despise this approach to business. That said, if i can fix it in a few hours and by throwing some minimal money at it, I will try.

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
yep, something like that. i On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dave wrote: > On 8/12/2011 9:08 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > > A little bit of excitement in my own life is that I am in the process of > > buying a warehouse for money making purposes. (expand my surplus buying > and > > selling) > > >

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 15:14, Dave wrote: > I would bet that this machine has non generic software on it > specifically designed to make it easy for people to grind cutters and > tools. Good point. I can imagine that ngcgui or similar could be used to achieve much the same effect, but that adds to the

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
Dave, thanks. Your answer is 100% sensible. I will get more answers when I close the deal. Igor On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Dave wrote: > I would bet that this machine has non generic software on it > specifically designed to make it easy for people to grind cutters and > tools. > > If you

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Dave
On 8/12/2011 9:08 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: > A little bit of excitement in my own life is that I am in the process of > buying a warehouse for money making purposes. (expand my surplus buying and > selling) > > The warehouse purchase deal includes several industrial machines, tooling, > shelving, raw

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Dave
I would bet that this machine has non generic software on it specifically designed to make it easy for people to grind cutters and tools. If you put a generic CNC control on it you will have none of that, making the machine much harder, maybe impossible to sell. How does the owner know that th

Re: [Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 14:08, Igor Chudov wrote: > One of the machines is an "Anca Fastgrind" CNC tool and cutter grinder. > Similar to this: > >        http://cgi.ebay.com/140588368305 > > According to the seller, it has a "bad motherboard". I wonder if it is a standard PC motherboard? if it is, the

[Emc-users] OT needs some words of wisdom on Anca Fastgrind CNC machine

2011-08-12 Thread Igor Chudov
A little bit of excitement in my own life is that I am in the process of buying a warehouse for money making purposes. (expand my surplus buying and selling) The warehouse purchase deal includes several industrial machines, tooling, shelving, raw materials etc, as found in the warehouse. One of t

Re: [Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2011 08:09, Karl Cunningham wrote: > I have no problem with the debounce logic, my question is one of pros > and cons and customs. Is it preferred to have all functions like this > contained within the one component? I would debounce in your comp. It keeps the HAL clearer, and will

[Emc-users] Debounce within Hal Component?

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Cunningham
I'm designing a real-time hal component to control a Dana Summit tool changer, and there are a couple of hardware lines from the tool changer that feed signals back to the hal component. The lines come from relay contacts and will need to be debounced. I'm not sure whether to do the debouncing