Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Got the drives and motors from Wantai Motor (same company as Longs Motor). Same Chinese stuff as a dozen others sell. Their drives are marked DQ860MA. The signal connectors have + and - for pulse, direction, and enable. All the - terminals connect together to a ground for each motor output on th

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
It sounds like you have the step and dir swapped. You could movement but very erratic in one direction. Those drives are pretty good and reliable. Signals must be active low. Strap all the + terminals to 5v and then pull low with your BOB. On 2013/09/22 09:03 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Got th

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running. To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 1:49 AM It sounds like you have the step and dir swapped. You could

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
What did you set the drive steps and current to? Dont go more than 2000 to start with and then see if you need more resolution. OOh and dont use the Enable on the drive, it does not work :) On 2013/09/22 10:34 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Sun, 9/22/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I looked at the spec sheet for the BOB. They use a weird set of pins for the step and dir signals. I had a customer two weeks ago with a similar setup and had the same symptoms. We could not get the axis to step correctly when using control line pins (14, 15 ,16, 17, 1)for step and direction. I

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running. To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 2:56 AM What did you set the drive steps and current to? Dont go mor

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Andrew
2013/9/22 Gregg Eshelman > On Sun, 9/22/13, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They > don't like to be moved while running. > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 2:56 AM > > What did you set the d

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
There seem to be several issues here. This is the way to go about with a new setup:- Start the steps at 400 on the drive Set the Step per unit at 200 in Mach Set the velocity to about one third on the slider in mach Set the Acceleration to about one third on the slider in Mach. Apply at least 36v

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Belli Button
Ahem, language please... This is the LCNC forum. Set the velocity to about one third on the slider in mach Set the Acceleration to about one third on the slider in MACH. Apply at least 36v - 80v supply to the drives on the VM pins. Anything less than 24v will deliver nothing. These setting will

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Take note, he refered to Mach settings so I thought that might give good indication. Someone with a good grasp will need only half a word. :) (you got bugger all to do again I see) On 2013/09/22 12:27 PM, Belli Button wrote: > Ahem, language please... > This is the LCNC forum. > > > Set the velo

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread jeremy youngs
the 860 driver steps on rise its been a year since i set mine up and i dont have my ini file right now but i think i had to invert the pulse pins to resolve this concern i have a very busy day today , if i am able to get back early today i will copy and paste it for you also i had to strap the nega

[Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless. My old Netgear WG111v3 worked great on my old DSL router which used WEP. We recently upgraded to FIOS, and it uses WPA/2. Unfortunately, under Ubuntu 10.04 and ndiswrappers, it does not work at all with any kind of WPA. Many fruit

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I attached a HAL and INI file that used these drives with steppers. On 2013/09/22 06:54 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: With my new BOB (HY-JK02-M) I've managed to get a motor to run and run smoothly, but only in one direction. (Once I set the parallel port pins to match the docs settings for Mach3

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Claude Froidevaux
Le 22.09.2013 06:54, Gregg Eshelman a écrit : > That's not the weird thing. What is effed up is that when the motor is > running if I pick it up or move it, it stops running. Doesn't matter if it's > laying down or standing on its back end, if it's picked straight up or > allowed to rotate arou

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kent Reed
Mark: Just a comment, since I don't run wireless adapters on my 10.04 hosts. I have managed over the years to help a friend who lives in penury on the left coast get Linux + wireless working on several cast-off laptops he and his significant other have received. For some of them he picked up el c

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Eric Keller
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless. On a linuxcnc machine, I would go with a wireless bridge, aka access point. Discussions of this in the archives. This saves you from driver and latency issues. I just ordered o

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
Kent, I missed that page during my fruitless searching. They do list some Marvell drivers which is what the WG111v3 supposedly uses. I'll give them a wack before I head off to the big box stores to peruse their offerings. Thanks! Mark On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Kent Reed wrote: > Mar

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
That's not a bad idea. Copper from the machine to the bridge, and wireless from the bridge to the router. I'll poke around for one of them too. Thanks Eric. Mark On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > > Well, I'm in the ma

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kent Reed
Mark: I've used straight wireless, wireless via bridges as Eric suggests, and also powerline ethernet to solve various connectivity problems at home and at my kids' homes. I reflashed several old Linksys router/access points which didn't support bridging with open-source software (I forget whethe

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
Kent, No worries there. Business, financial or health-related transactions are probably never gonna happen on my machine controller... ;-) Mark On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kent Reed wrote: > Mark: > > I've used straight wireless, wireless via bridges as Eric suggests, and > also power

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 9/22/2013 10:11 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > Kent, > > No worries there. Business, financial or health-related transactions are > probably never gonna happen on my machine controller... ;-) > > Mark > > Same here, but ya never know. Reading this list, I get the impression some folks are determine

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
ROFL. Nah, I got this computer for all my other stuff. The other lives out in the shop. Networked only for software updates and a rod making design program that reaches out and touches an online database for rod tapers and such. Mark On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/22/2013 06:33 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: >> Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless. > > On a linuxcnc machine, I would go with a wireless bridge, aka access > point. Discussions of this in the archives. This saves yo

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 09/22/2013 06:33 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Wendt > wrote: > >> Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless. > > > > On a linuxcnc machine, I would go with a wireless bridge, aka a

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kerry Lynn
> Yabut... How well do those routers play with FIOS? You must retain the router that Verizon gave you as the CE (Customer Edge) device, otherwise you can't stream on demand video and the like. However, you can disable its wireless port and install a WRT54G (about half the cost of an RPi on eBay)

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 09/22/2013 08:14 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: ... snip > > Yabut... How well do those routers play with FIOS? > ... snip I didn't know what FIOS was, so went searching. This looked interesting: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/liberating_verizon_fios_using_free_operating_systems This l

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: > So how much do they charge per sq inch? > You have to register on their on-line site, then you can do an automated quote. Just fill in the blanks for size, number of layers, copper thickness, substrate material, line and trace spacing, and minimum hole size and "annular

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread andy pugh
On 21 September 2013 22:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > Don't these folks have an NRE fee too, Andy? > > This board is 6.05" wide, and 8 & change inches long, not exactly one of > todays postage stamps, at least 50 square inches. 2 layer only, lots of > thru via's. Vias are free with the only company

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Ralph Stirling
I like oshpark.com. $5/sq.in for 3 boards, free shipping, easy ordering, US mfg. -- Ralph andy pugh wrote: On 21 September 2013 22:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > Don't these folks have an NRE fee too, Andy? > > This board is 6.05" wide, and 8 & change inches long, not exactly one of > todays po

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless card problems

2013-09-22 Thread dave
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 11:14 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Kirk Wallace > wrote: > > > On 09/22/2013 06:33 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Mark Wendt > > wrote: > > >> Well, I'm in the market for a new wireless card or USB wireless. > >

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 September 2013 15:29:31 Ralph Stirling did opine: > I like oshpark.com. $5/sq.in for 3 boards, free shipping, easy > ordering, US mfg. > > -- Ralph > > andy pugh wrote: > > On 21 September 2013 22:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Don't these folks have an NRE fee too, Andy? > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
The docs shipped with the kit only reference Mach. Need to pick useful info from that to setup LCNC. Would be nice if someone else has already setup LCNC with this BOB and these generic chinese drivers so I can nick their stepconf then modify as needed for the drive ratio of my mill. ;-) On Sun

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Claude Froidevaux wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running. To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 6:20 AM Le 22.09.2013 06:54, Gregg Eshelman a écrit : > That'

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 September 2013 22:50, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > That's something I've noticed in every Youtube video of people showing > stepper motors running. Nobody ever picks up or otherwise moves them except > for when they're firmly mounted to something like the head on an X-Y gantry. Moving the mot

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don'tlike to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Steve Stallings
Greg, The regular thumping noise, about twice a second, seems to be a symptom of a major timing problem with your step pulses. If you are using software generated step pulses, perhaps there is a video driver problem. Steve Stallings > -Original Message- > From: Gregg Eshelman [mailto:g

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 September 2013 18:52:16 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > On Sun, 9/22/13, Claude Froidevaux wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They > don't like to be moved while running. To: "Enhanced Machine Controller > (EMC)" Date: Sunday, September 22, >

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, andy pugh wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running. To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 4:05 PM On 22 September 2013 22:50, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > That's

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don'tlike to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Steve Stallings wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don'tlike to be moved while running. To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 4:06 PM Greg, The regular thumping noise, about twice a second

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don'tlike to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 September 2013 19:23:12 Steve Stallings did opine: > Greg, > > The regular thumping noise, about twice a second, seems > to be a symptom of a major timing problem with your step > pulses. If you are using software generated step pulses, > perhaps there is a video driver problem. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Gene Heskett wrote: 1. Which ever way it runs both directions is probably the correct enable line status. *That would be completely disconnected and unused. 3.  What are you using for motor power? *The 60 volt DC switching supply that came with the kit. (Got three of them

Re: [Emc-users] Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 22 September 2013 19:57:40 Gregg Eshelman did opine: > On Sun, 9/22/13, Gene Heskett wrote: > > 1. Which ever way it runs both directions is probably the > correct enable line status. > > *That would be completely disconnected and unused. > > 3. What are you using for motor power

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Marshland Engineering
I'm going through the same process at the moment. I have sent my files to Seeed. My boards are small. 40x40 mm My small reflow oven is on its way at present. Seeed apparently also make stencils, however I haven't priced them as yet. I've been looking at solder paste and syringes and there is a

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Ralph Stirling
I have routed many stencils out of very thin (.005") FR4 unclad pcb material. Unfortunately, I can't get any more (Isola Laminates doesn't seem to have any demand for it from real customers any more), so I'm going to switch to Kapton film, either .0075" or .010" thick. I've bought syringes of past

[Emc-users] It's the software. Re: Very weird thing with my stepper motors. They don't like to be moved while running.

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
As a test, I connected up the other Dell and installed the Mach3 demo. After poking around until I found the pin settings and the calibration, the motor ran nice and smooth. Then I booted off the LCNC CD and with the default settings it runs rough, but with a faster harmonic than the slower Del

[Emc-users] hydraulic servo system

2013-09-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I want to control a hydraulic cylinder (extension and retraction) with LinuxCNC. I want to use an axial piston swash plate pump. I want to control the swash plate with a servo motor. I will install a linear scale for position feedback. The actuator/end effector ratio is at least 5:1 so

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Marshland Engineering wrote: I have a A3 HP plotter and was wondering if this be adapted to use a knife for making plastic stencils ? - Yes, lots of people have done that. There are knife holders made to fit in place of the pen. You may have to tie the cl

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Ralph Stirling wrote: Subject: Re: [Emc-users] advice needed To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Date: Sunday, September 22, 2013, 7:03 PM I have routed many stencils out of very thin (.005") FR4 unclad pcb material. Unfortunately, I can't get any more (Isola Laminat

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
Marshland Engineering wrote: > I'm going through the same process at the moment. I have sent my files to > Seeed. My boards are small. 40x40 mm > My small reflow oven is on its way at present. > > Seeed apparently also make stencils, however I haven't priced them as yet. > > I've been looking at

Re: [Emc-users] advice needed

2013-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
Ralph Stirling wrote: > I have routed many stencils out of very thin (.005") FR4 unclad pcb material. > Unfortunately, I can't get any more (Isola Laminates doesn't seem to have > any demand for it from real customers any more), so I'm going to switch to > Kapton film, either .0075" or .010" thick.

Re: [Emc-users] hydraulic servo system

2013-09-22 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > I want to control a hydraulic cylinder (extension and retraction) with > LinuxCNC. > I want to use an axial piston swash plate pump. > I want to control the swash plate with a servo motor. > The null position on the pump may not be completely repeatable.

Re: [Emc-users] hydraulic servo system

2013-09-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Sun, 9/22/13, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen,   I want to control a hydraulic cylinder (extension and retraction) with LinuxCNC. I want to use an axial piston swash plate pump. I want to control the swash plate with a servo motor. I will install a linear scale for position feedback.

[Emc-users] Solder Syringes

2013-09-22 Thread Marshland Engineering
I've created it's own heading as this is worth knowing. At least I think so. I needed to apply a thin bead of Silicone to a part and found these http://www.amazon.com/Monoject-Curved-412-Syringes-5pcs/dp/B007Y8230G/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1379908207&sr=1-1 If the link does not work, try Mon