Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-30 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Bill I looked at your files but I could see nothing obviously wrong with them. Did you ever edit these files with a widows based editor? It sometime helps to restart the terminal session if you get funnies that just happen without explanation. Please explain the other strange files in your

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-30 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Sorry about the double posts my mail client said the message was not sent and it could not save it so I redid the message. On 2014-03-30 08:09, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Bill I looked at your files but I could see nothing obviously wrong with them. Did you ever edit these files with a widows

[Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi, after your help my torque problems improved. I think I have enough torque for now, but I'm facing another problem: I need to improvise rudimentary control of a small DC motor. What I want: Set speed and direction of the motor from G-Code. I don't need encoder feedback, it would be nice, but

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Andy Pugh
On 30 Mar 2014, at 12:40, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Spare Mesa 7i39 channel Is there any change I could utilise this unused BLDC driver to power my DC motor? Like use one Phase against ground and set the PWM rate of this phase somehow? Yes. The 7i39 has Hal pins for each phase

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy, thank you so much for your help. Yes. Cool. :-) The 7i39 has Hal pins for each phase amplitude. Set A to 1 and B to -1 for one direction, and the other way for the other. Hmm, could you explain this a little? I guess I have to set-up a pwm generator and pins and signals and

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Andy Pugh
On 30 Mar 2014, at 13:04, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Hmm, could you explain this a little? I guess I have to set-up a pwm generator and pins and signals and nets... The 7i39 does the hard work. You just need to drive the 3-phase PWM pins in the right way. Basically set up the

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Andy Pugh wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:39:08 +0100 From: Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Peter Blodow
Charles, from my (German) point of view, the power at 480 Volt three phase times 5 Amperes (each) times sqrt. of 3 makes some 15 HP. That's what the machine label wold mean to me at the power supply standards in our house. look at the power label right at the spindle motors body. Peter Am

[Emc-users] Anyone wants a working Bridgeport Interact CNC mill with a Fagor control

2014-03-30 Thread Igor Chudov
Located near Chicago Let me know -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Anyone wants a working Bridgeport Interact CNC mill with a Fagor control

2014-03-30 Thread Pete Matos
Damn where is this when I need it close by LOL which model is it? Pete On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Located near Chicago Let me know --

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/30/2014 08:53 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: Charles, from my (German) point of view, the power at 480 Volt three phase times 5 Amperes (each) times sqrt. of 3 makes some 15 HP. That's what the machine label wold mean to me at the power supply standards in our house. look at the power label

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy You just need to drive the 3-phase PWM pins in the right way. Basically set up the DC motor exactly the same as the other motors, but don't use the bldc component. You need a scale component to create a negative copy of the PID output. Then drive two of the 7i39 phases with the

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014, Florian Rist wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:42:57 +0200 From: Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 March 2014 17:42, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Sounds difficult (for me)... It's mainly just copy and paste of the configuration you have already written for the other motors. Just a bit _simpler_. Would leaving the encoder feedback and the PID away simplify things. Not really,

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy It's mainly just copy and paste of the configuration you have already written for the other motors. Just a bit _simpler_. Hmm, I didn't write the configuration for the other motors, I copy pasted it. I think from a plasma cutter example that you provided. Would leaving the encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
...oh and I need to add the new PID to the servo threads: addf pid.3.do-pid-calcs servo-thread Right? cu Flo -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 March 2014 22:15, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Right? Aye, right. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy Right? Aye, right. I'm working on it. Encoder input is already working. See you Flo PS: I'm working on the 2nd generation of this art installation: https://vimeo.com/72114655 (The head is unrolling thing blue sewing thread, the motions are generated only from feedback data gathered

Re: [Emc-users] Anyone wants a working Bridgeport Interact CNC mill with a Fagor control

2014-03-30 Thread Rondal Nannie
I wouldnt mind a Bridgeport. I live in Peoria Illinois  Ron N From: Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: [Emc-users] Anyone wants a working Bridgeport

Re: [Emc-users] Anyone wants a working Bridgeport Interact CNC mill with a Fagor control

2014-03-30 Thread Igor Chudov
I will pick it up tomorrow and will let you guys know for sure. It will be under power in my warehouse. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Rondal Nannie rl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I wouldnt mind a Bridgeport. I live in Peoria Illinois Ron N From: Igor

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:45:56 -0500, you wrote: I'm wondering if this mill would make a good retrofit candidate for LinuxCNC: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/4397110377.html The price seems right for a CNC capable machine, I'm just wondering if anyone knows of gotchas for this particular

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy and Peter, I did it. :-) It works. My configuration is still a total mess, but I'll clean up tomorrow. The strange thing is, that the tiny DC motor feels to have more torque than the much bigger BLDCs. I think there is still something wrong with my setup. The BLDCs are 75W, 0.28Nm at

Re: [Emc-users] Improvised DC Motor Controll using Mesa 7i39?

2014-03-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Florian Rist wrote: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 03:23:37 +0200 From: Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Igor Chudov
I resold something very similar. It is a great retrofit candidate. I also have some parts for those machines. It will not be a fast machine, just like my Interact is not a fast machine, but it is a great machine and a very nice retrofit experience, DC servos, etc. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 7:45

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Igor Chudov
Your math is way off. A three phase motor uses about 1.75 amps per HP at 480v. So it is a 3 HP machine. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: Charles, from my (German) point of view, the power at 480 Volt three phase times 5 Amperes (each) times sqrt. of 3

Re: [Emc-users] Lagun Knee Mill a Good Retrofit Candidate?

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Cole
I'd be very surprised if the motor was 480 volts only. They are almost always at least dual voltage. To me, the big things to look for are, not much abuse, very little mechanical slop in anything, good motors, working drives if possible or if not, then reasonably priced drives available, a

Re: [Emc-users] [Off] Granite Surface Protection

2014-03-30 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/29/2014 8:48 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/29/2014 01:37 PM, Dave Cole wrote: Are you familiar with Optical benches/tables? I bought a 5'x8' ground cast iron optical table that is supported by air bellows although a couple of them are missing. It was made in three sections and then pinned