[Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
Andy brought up this in another post, and I didn't want to hijack that thread. I wonder if screwmapping of one axis could be applied to another axis. Here's the scenario: Long X axis on my CNC saw beveler. At this point, I'm unable to get the X bed much flatter than + or - .006, and it varies

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 12:29 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis with screw mapping so as it hits each individual inch along the X axis? IMHO something like that might be done with a small compensation table, which takes X position,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 12:29 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis with screw mapping so as it hits each individual inch along the X axis? IMHO

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 12:52 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: The CNC saw beveler is a two axis machine, X and Z. It's stepper based, with two steppers on the X axis, one slaved to the other. I'm at work and don't have access to the computer that runs the machine. I have manually probed the X

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 12:52 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: The CNC saw beveler is a two axis machine, X and Z. It's stepper based, with two steppers on the X axis, one slaved to the other. I'm at work and

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 10:29, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis with screw mapping so as it hits each individual inch along the X axis? You could populate a lincurve component with the required Z offset for each X. Then link

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 10:29, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis with screw mapping so as it hits each individual inch along the X axis? You could

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 05:52:16 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Viesturs Lؤپcis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 12:29 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 13:42 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: You could populate a lincurve component with the required Z offset for each X. Then link the lincurve X axis input to the axis position pin. Then use an offset component on your Z position driven from the output of the lincurve.

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2014 05:52:16 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Viesturs Lؤپcis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 12:29 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 06:42:43 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 18 November 2014 10:29, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: is there any way with screw mapping that I could adjust the Z axis with screw mapping so as it hits each individual inch along the X axis? You

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 11:52, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, could you, please, explain, how exactly does lincurve work? It does a 1-dimensional lookup and interpolation. Consider it as a graph of (x, y) points. For every input X it returns the corresponding Y. Between (x,y)

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 06:53:47 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2014 05:52:16 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Viesturs Lط¤ظ¾cis

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:12, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: No mention now of a maximum number of setpoints, IIRC it was 16 previously. Sufficient for me, with a 12 to 13 table travel, but Marks machine is obviously 3 or 4x longer if he is to do a correction every inch.

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 14:14 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: Consider it as a graph of (x, y) points. For every input X it returns the corresponding Y. Between (x,y) points it interpolates linearly. Thanks, but what I meant - I understand the principle, I do not understand the manpage on how

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:17, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: So Andy, is this the same code, or a simplified and now faster version? Nothing has changed, but the documentation generator might have. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:20 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:12, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: No mention now of a maximum number of setpoints, IIRC it was 16 previously. Sufficient for me, with a 12 to 13 table travel, but Marks machine is obviously

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 07:22:12 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 18 November 2014 12:17, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: So Andy, is this the same code, or a simplified and now faster version? Nothing has changed, but the documentation generator might have. And not

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:20, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, but what I meant - I understand the principle, I do not understand the manpage on how exactly to provide that data to the lincurve component. setp x1 v1 setp y1 v2 ... (unfortunately) -- atp If you can't fix

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long, and my G Code is written for a Z station for every inch of X station. Back to the probekins I guess. I think lincurve will probably work better in your

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:39 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:20, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, but what I meant - I understand the principle, I do not understand the manpage on how exactly to provide that data to the lincurve

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 07:26:34 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:20 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:12, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: No mention now of a maximum number of setpoints, IIRC it was 16 previously.

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long, and my G Code is written for a Z station for every inch of X station. Back to the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 07:42:25 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:39 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:20, Viesturs Lؤپcis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, but what I meant - I understand the principle, I do not

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long, and my G Code is written for a Z station for every inch of X station. Back to the probekins I guess. Reread Andy's comment about editing the 16

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 14:48 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Maybe, but the taper of the bamboo strip is defined every inch, and it's necessary to define that taper per inch. 16 stations won't cover all the necessary stations. Mark, it will interpolate Z correction between any 2 defined

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Yikes! So, after recompiling lincurve to accept at a minimum 55 plotted points, I'd have to add 110 lines of setp? Yes. But since it does interpolate, wouldn't an every 3.5 correction do 99% of what you need? Or

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 14:48 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Maybe, but the taper of the bamboo strip is defined every inch, and it's necessary to define that taper per inch. 16 stations won't cover all the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long, and my G Code is written for a Z station for every inch of X station. Back to the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 07:48:14 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long, and my G Code is written for a Z station for every inch of X station. Back to the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 15:05 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Yes, it will, but that's assuming that the Z correction for all the stations in between those two defined points is the same. The map I made of the X axis has very few points along the X axis at 1 stations that are identical. X1 may

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Would it not be easier to install a sub plate and cut the sub plate to the machine motion? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 15:05 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Yes, it will, but that's assuming that the Z correction for

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 15:14 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Oops, I used incorrect coding. Should be: setp x1 v1 setp y1 v2 If my Y doesn't change the length of the X axis, would the v number on the y line not change, or would it equal the number for the x line? Sorry I'm being dense

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Mark Setp x0 v0 setp y0 v0 setp x1 3.5 setp y1 -.003 setp x2 7.0 setp y2 .006 setp x3 11.5 setp y3 .002 setp x4 15.0 setp y4 -0.002 etc etc Between x0 and x1 it will interpolate that -.003, so at 1 you

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:56, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I do need the inch by inch interpolation. The fly rod's action, depends heavily on getting the numbers over the length of the rod spot on to the cross-sectional dimensions calculated. Little differences at different

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 15:05 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Yes, it will, but that's assuming that the Z correction for all the stations in between those two defined points is the same. The map I made of the X

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 13:10, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how, on my machine without a moveable Y axis (in other words, since I have no real Y axis movement - the gantry just moves along the X axis and the Z axis goes up or down), do I still need to have

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Would it not be easier to install a sub plate and cut the sub plate to the machine motion? Stuart, What do mean by that? Currently, I've got the strip held down by vacuum to the table. Each time I make a rod, I

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 08:10:26 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-11-18 15:14 GMT+02:00 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: Oops, I used incorrect coding. Should be: setp x1 v1 setp y1 v2 If my Y doesn't change the length of the X axis, would the v number on the y

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:35 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:56, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I do need the inch by inch interpolation. The fly rod's action, depends heavily on getting the numbers over the length of the rod spot on to the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 12:42, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! So, after recompiling lincurve to accept at a minimum 55 plotted points, I'd have to add 110 lines of setp? I would use Excel / Open Office to create the HAL lines, then paste that into a standalone HAL file. In fact,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:41 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 13:10, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how, on my machine without a moveable Y axis (in other words, since I have no real Y axis movement - the gantry just moves

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 14:04, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: It varies up and down the entire 55 of length of the Z axis, with small islands that vary from the median by the same amount, and with several points along the axis at the median table height. Plot it as a graph (spreadsheet or

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 13:48, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The offset module would essentially be doing what I just suggested using a sum2 for, but offset may have some other features that are desirable too The main advantage of offset is that it knows how to lie to the feedback pin so

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:42, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Yikes! So, after recompiling lincurve to accept at a minimum 55 plotted points, I'd have to add 110 lines of setp? I would use Excel / Open Office to

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:12 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 14:04, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: It varies up and down the entire 55 of length of the Z axis, with small islands that vary from the median by the same amount, and with several points along

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 14:15, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: just to make sure I'm on the right page, should the setp lincurve.00 lines - the x and y -val-nn - should the nn identifiers be identical? They should. It ought to be correct now. In theory you could keep multiple HAL files of

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 14:20, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, one other question. Can the y value be negative in the lincurve setp or should that be handled in the offset setp? Both X and Y can be any real number. The X values should increase with index number however or the result is

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 08:14:54 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, then, I guess it may or may not work for me. My table is 55 long,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:21 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 14:15, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: just to make sure I'm on the right page, should the setp lincurve.00 lines - the x and y -val-nn - should the nn identifiers be identical? They should.

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
It is not possible to place one sub plate under your current tooling plate(s)? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Would it not be easier to install a sub plate and cut the sub

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:23 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 14:20, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, one other question. Can the y value be negative in the lincurve setp or should that be handled in the offset setp? Both X and Y can be any real

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 09:13:59 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 18 November 2014 13:48, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The offset module would essentially be doing what I just suggested using a sum2 for, but offset may have some other features that are desirable too

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2014 08:14:54 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:42 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 November 2014 12:26, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
Stuart, I have no tooling plates in use now. ;-) Mark On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: It is not possible to place one sub plate under your current tooling plate(s)? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On

[Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread kqt4at5v
I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 with LinuxCNC for about 3 years with very good results. I downloaded http://linuxcnc.org/binary.hybrid.iso with the thought of upgrading. I installed it to a new drive. I can startup and run ok until I try to run any of the LinuxCNC apps. The machine does not

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread dave
On 11/18/2014 06:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Stuart, I have no tooling plates in use now. ;-) Mark Hi Mark, I don't know if the site is still active but Les Watts used an interesting compensation scheme for his router. Something about a cam on a tensioned wire IIRC. Being an old

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
What about RAM ? (How many GB do you have?) I do believe that with the new installation you are no more running with the vesa driver . Can you double check this ? Did you already make the isolcpus=1 modification ? I hope it is not a kernel issue due to the old hardware . Alex On Tue, Nov 18,

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:32 AM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:45 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Stuart, I have no tooling plates in use now. ;-) Mark Hi Mark, I don't know if the site is still active but Les Watts used an interesting compensation scheme for his

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:04:18AM -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: At X1, the table height is .001 lower than X0. X2 is .003 lower than X0. X3 is .002 lower. X4 is .001 lower. X5 is .002 lower. X6 is .003 lower. X7 is .004 lower. X8 is .002 lower. X9 is .001 lower. Not having seen how your

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Dave Caroline
Expecting to move the saws sideways to correct the error seems wrong to me (I would be expecting the blades to explode), I would bolt a dti/s to the moving head and measure and therefore be able to fix the mechanics. Dave Caroline On 18/11/2014, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Tue, Nov

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, alex chiosso wrote: What about RAM ? (How many GB do you have?) I do believe that with the new installation you are no more running with the vesa driver . Can you double check this ? Did you already make the isolcpus=1 modification ? I hope it is not a kernel issue due

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:04:18AM -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: At X1, the table height is .001 lower than X0. X2 is .003 lower than X0. X3 is .002 lower. X4 is .001 lower. X5 is .002 lower. X6 is .003 lower. X7 is

[Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting some BLDC motors with resolvers for commutation. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: Expecting to move the saws sideways to correct the error seems wrong to me (I would be expecting the blades to explode), I would bolt a dti/s to the moving head and measure and therefore be able to fix the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Would it be possible to machine the top of the table (with a large enough machine tool)? On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: Expecting to move the saws sideways to

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 15:32, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On another tangent I wonder about using a polynomial (curve fit) but with the number of inflections points you have it may be pretty high order. Linear interp instead of a continuous function may still be best. This is the kind of

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
As I understood the isolcpus=1 (for a dual core processor) is mandatory . I you have multiple cores 4 or 8 (but you shouldn't) there is a different isolcpus setting to optimize the RTAI results (aka latency). Have you tried to let the GPU drivers as the installation process load automagically. I

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to machine the top of the table (with a large enough machine tool)? Not really. I'd have no way to really machine the table using the cutting head. When I get home this afternoon from work I'll

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting some BLDC motors with resolvers for

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Mark is this your http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFqM_3r4vMs machine ? Nice application ! Alex On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to machine the top of

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark is this your http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFqM_3r4vMs machine ? Nice application ! Alex Alex, Yes! that's mine. I'd forgotten I'd put up that lousy video of the machine in operation. ;-) Mark

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Dave Caroline
and Now I see where the feelers can be placed Dave On 18/11/2014, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark is this your http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFqM_3r4vMs machine ? Nice application ! Alex Alex,

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, alex chiosso wrote: As I understood the isolcpus=1 (for a dual core processor) is mandatory . I you have multiple cores 4 or 8 (but you shouldn't) there is a different isolcpus setting to optimize the RTAI results (aka latency). Have you tried to let the GPU drivers as

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
I've got better, clearer pictures of the machine at home. I'll post them later this afternoon. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: and Now I see where the feelers can be placed Dave On 18/11/2014, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/18/14 10:02 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I originally allowed the Radeon driver to load but switched to vesa which is what I use on 10.04. Thanks for the try. When you switch to a new version of the RTAI kernel you should re-run the latency test. The new kernel usually works better

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Mark. Why don't you update the YouTube video ? I usually try to search with Google first and sometimes I try to search directly into YouTube to find what I'm searching for. The Andy and Viesturs hints seems to be the right solution for your needs. Sometimes the man pages are not clear enough to

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark. Why don't you update the YouTube video ? I usually try to search with Google first and sometimes I try to search directly into YouTube to find what I'm searching for. The Andy and Viesturs hints seems to be the

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Sebastian . Is the base thread period adjustable for the latency test gui ? If yes , can you please tell me how can I do this ? Alex On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: On 11/18/14 10:02 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I originally allowed the Radeon

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Andy Have you dumped those pcb's yet or shall I send you an address? On 2014-11-18 18:43, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed:

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/18/14 10:19 AM, alex chiosso wrote: Is the base thread period adjustable for the latency test gui ? If yes , can you please tell me how can I do this ? You don't need to set a base period to run the latency test. Just run it, and it'll measure the latency, and you use that to pick a

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
You're are welcome Mark. What is on the net seems that never die ! Alex On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark. Why don't you update the YouTube video ? I usually try to

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
Thank you Sebastian . If your base period is too fast for the new version of RTAI on your hardware, you may experience the kind of lockup that you describe. In this situation you'll have to increase your base period or revert to the older kernel. I misunderstood you comment . :-) Alex On

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 11/18/14 10:02 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: I originally allowed the Radeon driver to load but switched to vesa which is what I use on 10.04. Thanks for the try. When you switch to a new version of the RTAI kernel you should re-run the

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: You're are welcome Mark. What is on the net seems that never die ! Alex Alex, Isn't that just the truth. ;-) -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type -

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/18/2014 08:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 16:31, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Andy, it has been a few years since this page changed: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ResolverToQuadratureConverter How well is this working? I'm looking at getting

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 11/18/14 10:27 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote: The lantency-test is what I first tried to run, I get no gui and it locks up. Glxgears runs ok. Bummer. Can you send us the output of 'dpkg -s linux-image-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae' and paste the output of dmesg somewhere? -- Sebastian Kuzminsky

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-11-18 18:42 GMT+02:00 alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com: As I understood the isolcpus=1 (for a dual core processor) is mandatory . No, it is not. It can help improve realtime performance, but it by is not mandatory by any means. Viesturs

[Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-18 Thread Rick
Hey Guys, Here is a link to the main Control Panel of our latest linux build, this is going on an early 80's Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 machining center, travels are 40 in the X, 20 in the Y, and 20 in the Z. We are adding a B axis to the machine during the retrofit. Mesa 7I80, 7I44, 7I49,

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 17:33, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The more I think about it, adding Halls seems to be the way to go. Resolvers are _really_ good transducers. It seems a shame not to use them. I have no boards left. But I can pass on the files to have a batch of PCBs

Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-18 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 11/18/2014 11:58 AM, Rick wrote: Hey Guys, Here is a link to the main Control Panel of our latest linux build, this is going on an early 80's Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 machining center, travels are 40 in the X, 20 in the Y, and 20 in the Z. We are adding a B axis to the machine during

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread alex chiosso
Ok. Thank you . Il giorno 18/nov/2014 17:42, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2014-11-18 18:42 GMT+02:00 alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com: As I understood the isolcpus=1 (for a dual core processor) is mandatory . No, it is not. It can help improve realtime performance, but

Re: [Emc-users] upgrade to current version causes lockup

2014-11-18 Thread kqt4at5v
Can you send us the output of 'dpkg -s linux-image-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae' and paste the output of dmesg somewhere? # dpkg -s linux-image-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae Package: linux-image-3.4-9-rtai-686-pae Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: kernel Installed-Size: 88408 Maintainer:

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Ben Potter
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 November 2014 18:29 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers On 18 November 2014 17:33, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The more I think about it, adding Halls seems to be the way to

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 November 2014 18:45, Ben Potter b...@bpuk.org wrote: I have a couple of Andy's boards left. I had noise issues with them that is more than likely how I was using them I think that might be the nature of the board and 8-bit sampling at high speed. It _probably_ doesn't matter as much for

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread dave
On 11/18/2014 08:40 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 18 November 2014 15:32, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On another tangent I wonder about using a polynomial (curve fit) but with the number of inflections points you have it may be pretty high order. Linear interp instead of a continuous function

Re: [Emc-users] Screw Mapping

2014-11-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to machine the top of the table (with a large enough machine tool)? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Okay, let's try this again with links. Sourceforge says my photos are

Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers

2014-11-18 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/18/2014 10:45 AM, Ben Potter wrote: ... snip I have a couple of Andy's boards left. I had noise issues with them that is more than likely how I was using them. As such I ended up picking up a commercial drive for the motor I was using. KW: If you want them, I'd be happy to send them on.

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