Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-04 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Homann wrote: > Hi Jon, > > You may want to ask Art to have another look. These days there are plug-ins > that are written that talk to various type of hardware. You would probably > have to write the plug-in yourself with Arts help. I talked to him at the CNC Workshop, and he sounded pret

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-04 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Ray Henry wrote: >On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 20:29 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > > > >>It may be better to >>leave closed loop out of it altogether, because a lot of people don't >>really know what it is, and will claim closed loop operation when it >>really isn't. >> >> >As an old time

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-04 Thread RogerN
- Original Message - From: "Steve Blackmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:57:37 -0500, you wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-04 Thread Ray Henry
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 20:29 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > It may be better to > leave closed loop out of it altogether, because a lot of people don't > really know what it is, and will claim closed loop operation when it > really isn't. As an old time user/repairer of machines that use

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-04 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Jon, You may want to ask Art to have another look. These days there are plug-ins that are written that talk to various type of hardware. You would probably have to write the plug-in yourself with Arts help. It may be worth considering. Cheers, Peter. Jon Elson wrote: > Stephen Wille Padno

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Peter, > > I think the idea is to correct the EMC2-related information, since > that's what we know about. It would make sense for someone who knows > more about Mach to correct that information. I believe I'm the only one > of the EMC developers who has ever ins

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > I would like to finalize the information in this table such that it > represents the general capabilities of EMC 2.2. > > http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/control_table-kw1a.htm I have never had a problem installing the Ubuntu 6.06-based EMC2 with 256 MB of memory. B

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Dave Engvall
Great job of updating information. In hindsight I think "Linux" should probably be "Linux with rt extensions" or something equivalent. " It is always easier to edit than to do the original copy" Thanks for taking the effort. Dave On Oct 3, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I would li

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Kirk Wallace wrote: >[snip] > >Also changed: >"Both simultaneously, >closed loop optional for steppers" > > I'd leave the steppers thing out of closed loop. It may be better to leave closed loop out of it altogether, because a lot of people don't really know what it is, and will claim closed

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:22 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: ... snip > Kirk, > > It might be good to add a "closed loop" column. That probably used to > be implicit in the "stepper vs. servo" column, but it isn't any more > because of step-to-servo drives like the Geckos. It's not my table

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Peter, I think the idea is to correct the EMC2-related information, since that's what we know about. It would make sense for someone who knows more about Mach to correct that information. I believe I'm the only one of the EMC developers who has ever installed or evaluated Mach, since I'm one

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thanks for the reply, but I am only concerned about the EMC 2.2 data. I just happened to come across this table at: http://desktopcnc.com/control_table.htm and wanted to make sure EMC was properly represented. I know nothing about any other programs. Kirk Wallace

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Kirk, Nice table. The data for Mach3 is incorrect in many columns. You really need to compare it to the releases version 2.48 as the 1.48 is quite old and out of date. It does 100K steps/sec on the parallel port. Using TCP/IP add on hardware (Gecko G100) it can do 4M step/second. Using USB

[Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
I would like to finalize the information in this table such that it represents the general capabilities of EMC 2.2. http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/control_table-kw1a.htm Then, I need someone (on the board) to authorize it by sending: Jerry Gold [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message to that effec

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:39:35 -0400, you wrote: >What is being claimed for Mach is that it can do rigid tapping >IF the spindle is a controlled C axis rather than just a free >running spindle. Under these conditions any CNC control >that can do two axis coordinated motion can do rigid tapping. >Rath

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Stallings
s of folks do it. Steve Stallings > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Sokolik > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Sam Sokolik
: "Steve Blackmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:57:37 -0500, you wrote: > >>sam sokolik wrote: >>>

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:57:37 -0500, you wrote: >sam sokolik wrote: >> really - I was in on a converstion with art at the cncworkshop - he had said >> he thought mach would probably never do rigid tapping. He's known to be wrong on occasion . >> Could you explain? I could see if you had the sp

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Dean Hedin wrote: > > >>I am surprized that Mach under Windows could out perform EMC in steps/sec >>since EMC is built on a realtime kernel. >> >>I presume it is therefore that it is the "quality of steps" that EMC is >>better at? In otherowrds EMC produces more a

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
sam sokolik wrote: > really - I was in on a converstion with art at the cncworkshop - he had said > he thought mach would probably never do rigid tapping. > > Could you explain? I could see if you had the spindle setup as a rotory > axis... but other than that I have no clue. Maybe some exter

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Ray Henry
CTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > > > > the only other thing I can think of is that the max step/sec is a bit on > > the > > low side

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:20:26PM -0500, Sam Sokolik wrote: > the only other thing I can think of is that the max step/sec is a bit on the > low side. But I don't know a good safe step rate to put on paper. (~20k/s > w/Parport) - expecially because 2.2 will have doublefreq which will increase

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Dean Hedin wrote: >I am surprized that Mach under Windows could out perform EMC in steps/sec >since EMC is built on a realtime kernel. > >I presume it is therefore that it is the "quality of steps" that EMC is >better at? In otherowrds EMC produces more accurate and precise steps. > > I haven

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Peter Homann
ot; that EMC is > better at? In otherowrds EMC produces more accurate and precise steps. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sam Sokolik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:20 PM &

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Dean Hedin
From: "Sam Sokolik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > the only other thing I can think of is that the max step/sec is a bit on > the

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread sam sokolik
outside of mach?(I am not a mach person). sam - Original Message - From: "Steve Blackmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" ou Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > On T

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:27:49 -0500, you wrote: >oh - and maybe a rigid tapping column.. The threading lathe/mill is a bit >odd.. Mach does not do rigid tapping which I would concider the mill >threading (it has yes/yes in that column). Mach will do rigid tapping.. Steve Blackmore -- ---

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
ed Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > the only other thing I can think of is that the max step/sec is a bit on > the > low side. But I don't know a good safe step rate to put on paper. >

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Sam Sokolik
From: "Kirk Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information > Updated here: > > http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
Updated here: http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/control_table-kw1a.htm Kirk Wallace ~~ On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 13:36 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Cool. > > A few changes though: > > Name: EMC2 > Additional Hardware: optio

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Cool. A few changes though: Name: EMC2 Additional Hardware: optional Max Axes: 9 (XYZ linear, ABC angular, UVW linear) stepper/servo: both, simultaneously Number of G-codes: 63 (I looked at interp_internal.hh to see that) Limit Switches: well, this is an interesting one. you get 3 inputs p

Re: [Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
I put a first pass edit of this table here: http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/control_table-kw1.htm Kirk Wallace ~~ On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 08:31 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > The information on this website: > > http://desktopcnc.com/co

[Emc-users] Desktop CNC Website Information

2007-10-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
The information on this website: http://desktopcnc.com/control_table.htm seems to be out of date. I don't feel fully qualified to update this information, so I wonder if someone would be interested in pursuing it. If not, I can take a stab at it, but I can't guarantee accuracy (+/- .010" maybe).