Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:14:42 -0600, you wrote: >Your £332 Gecko was likely bought by the seller for £210, add on the >additional taxes they get nailed with for re-selling, plus profit... But >you're used to it, you have to pay to own a TV, even if you never ever >watch the BBC. UK would add 20

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/16/2014 5:47 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: >>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat h=1&products_id=21 >> 3 concerns with the -03 Peter (besides the ripoff when converting AUD to >> USD, usually resulting in at least an $80 charge). > >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Speaking of feedbag time, completely un-LinuCNC and un-machine related, > > spent yesterday smoking a Boston Pork Butt. First time I ever did one > > of those. O. M. G. Is it tasty... > > > > Mark > > Now I need a couple paper tow

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 March 2014 12:59:15 Mark Wendt did opine: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm thinking, mostly thinking its about feedbag time. :) > > > > Cheers, Gene > > -- > > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and amm

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 March 2014 12:48:23 Peter Homann did opine: > Hi Gene, > > Sorry, missed your reply. I was in the shed trying to do a bit more on > my mill conversion. > > http://www.cnczone.com/forums/benchtop-machines/158266-homann-designs-tm > 20lv-bf20-g0704-conversion.html > > Cheers, > > Pe

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > > > Wowh... gotta go rib shopping soon! :-) > > Now what was I doing before I read this.. > > Dave > > > Yes ... ... fresh picked squash sautéed with onions, red pepper, > broccoli, served with rice. Fresh picked

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/16/2014 09:35 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > On 3/16/2014 10:24 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Dave Cole wrote: >> Speaking of feedbag time, completely un-LinuCNC and un-machine related, spent yesterday smoking a Boston Pork Butt. First time I ever did one of >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > >> > > > > Sorry Dave. ;-) > > > > Smoked a full rack of ribs a coupla weekends ago. They were mighty tasty > > too. ;-) > > > > Mark > > Wowh... gotta go rib shopping soon! :-) > Now what was I doing before I read this...

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/16/2014 10:24 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > >>> Speaking of feedbag time, completely un-LinuCNC and un-machine related, >>> spent yesterday smoking a Boston Pork Butt. First time I ever did one of >>> those. O. M. G. Is it tasty... >>> >>> Mar

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > > Speaking of feedbag time, completely un-LinuCNC and un-machine related, > > spent yesterday smoking a Boston Pork Butt. First time I ever did one of > > those. O. M. G. Is it tasty... > > > > Mark > > Gee Mark... > Thanks a lot.

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/16/2014 8:42 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >> >> I'm thinking, mostly thinking its about feedbag time. :) >> >> Cheers, Gene >> -- >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in th

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I'm thinking, mostly thinking its about feedbag time. :) > > Cheers, Gene > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Lester Caine
Dave Cole wrote: http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat > h=1&products_id=21 >>> >>3 concerns with the -03 Peter (besides the ripoff when converting AUD to >>> >>USD, usually resulting in at least an $80 charge). >> >Shipping around the world seems to

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Dave Cole
On 3/16/2014 6:47 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: >>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat h=1&products_id=21 >> 3 concerns with the -03 Peter (besides the ripoff when converting AUD to >> USD, usually resulting in at least an $80 charge). >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Lester Caine
Gene Heskett wrote: >> http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPat >> >h=1&products_id=21 > 3 concerns with the -03 Peter (besides the ripoff when converting AUD to > USD, usually resulting in at least an $80 charge). Shipping around the world seems to be in free fall

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-16 Thread Peter Homann
t;> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 >>>>> From: Philipp Burch >>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
gt; To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > > > > Hi Peter! > > > > On 03/15/2014 09:34 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > >>> Date

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/15/2014 04:44 PM, Peter Homann wrote: > Hi, > > If you are after closed loop spindle control for a KBIC style treadmill > controller a 5Hz PWM signal driving a PWM to analog converter is unlikely to > provide a satisfying result. Most close loop control systems use a 1KHz update > rate. You m

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2014 00:35, Gene Heskett wrote: > That is an interesting idea Andy, but with 3 uptodate LCNC installs here > that DO include the docs, I find it puzzling that there is not now, an > installed man page for lincurve on either of these 3 machines. Lincurve is currently only present in M

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 20:28:31 andy pugh did opine: > On 16 March 2014 00:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Alternatively, why not run closed-loop spindle speed, then it doesn't > >> matter if the control is non linear. > > > > Because of the positive gain, enough Pgain to make it work fairly > >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Philipp Burch
.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. >> >> Hi Gene! >> >> On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings again; >>> [...] >> >> > I can put the SPINX1 schematics up somewhere on Mond

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 16 March 2014 00:06, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Alternatively, why not run closed-loop spindle speed, then it doesn't >> matter if the control is non linear. > > Because of the positive gain, enough Pgain to make it work fairly stiff > at 300 rpm, is enough to make it obviously oscillate at 800 rpm

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 19:37:55 andy pugh did opine: > On 14 March 2014 20:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So it looks like I need another, but it seems to me there ought to be > > another choice besides this non-linear POS, and the PMDX-106. > > Why are you so obsessed by linearity? I thought yo

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter Homann
Hi, If you are after closed loop spindle control for a KBIC style treadmill controller a 5Hz PWM signal driving a PWM to analog converter is unlikely to provide a satisfying result. Most close loop control systems use a 1KHz update rate. You may get adequate results with a 100Hz update but 5Hz

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 14 March 2014 20:23, Gene Heskett wrote: > So it looks like I need another, but it seems to me there ought to be > another choice besides this non-linear POS, and the PMDX-106. Why are you so obsessed by linearity? I thought you had already managed to linearise in software? Alternatively, why

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
eply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >> > >> > >> > >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > >> > >> Hi Gene! > >> > >> On 03/14/20

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
t; > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > > > > Hi Peter! > > > > On 03/15/2014 09:34 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > >>> Date

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:27:27 +0100 > From: Philipp Burch > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
t; > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. > > > > Hi Gene! > > > > On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Greetings again; > >> > >> After putting in a diode, that

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014, Philipp Burch wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:45:18 +0100 > From: Philipp Burch > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell. >

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 15:57:25 Philipp Burch did opine: > Hi Gene! > > On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings again; > > > > After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems > > to have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking > > li

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Gene! On 03/14/2014 09:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings again; > > After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to > have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th > one has failed. Symptoms seem to be an output impedance in the 10

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 14:33:33 Gene Heskett did opine: > On Saturday 15 March 2014 06:42:37 Steve Blackmore did opine: > > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: > > >Greetings again; > > > > > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 > > >seems to have gone so

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 06:42:37 Steve Blackmore did opine: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: > >Greetings again; > > > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems > >to have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking > >like a 4th one h

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-15 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:23:33 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings again; > >After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to >have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th >one has failed. Symptoms seem to be an output impedance in the 100k >region

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 March 2014 01:25:47 Peter Homann did opine: > Hi Gene, > > Not sure where you get the $80 rip-off from? Around 13-14 years ago (before I became aware of emc) Futurlec had a good deal on some pci boards with 3 82C55's on each one that I thought would be good for machine controlli

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Gene, Not sure where you get the $80 rip-off from? You can select to see the prices in US$ by setting the currency to US$ in the top right had side of the front page of my site. http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/ 1. The DC-03 has an optional DC/DC converter that generates a 15Vdc supply t

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 March 2014 23:53:24 Peter Homann did opine: > Hi Gene, > > Have a look at the DC-03 Digispeed that I design and sell. It converts a > PWM signal into an isolated control voltage, and has quite small form > factor. > > http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_in

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 March 2014 23:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That would be a tempting price, if it wasn't in AUD despite what the page > says, how much is it in my USD? www.xe.com says that $AU38 = $US34 = £25.5 = 0.0548362 Bitcoins -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manif

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 March 2014 19:17:49 Peter Homann did opine: > Hi Gene, > > Have a look at the DC-03 Digispeed that I design and sell. It converts a > PWM signal into an isolated control voltage, and has quite small form > factor. > > http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_in

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Gene, Have a look at the DC-03 Digispeed that I design and sell. It converts a PWM signal into an isolated control voltage, and has quite small form factor. http://www.homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=21 If your PWM signal has a base frequency of 1

Re: [Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Pete Matos
Yup..MESANET... LOL. Pete On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings again; > > After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to > have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th > one has failed. Symptoms seem to be a

[Emc-users] I&$@)^ another C41 gone to hell.

2014-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings again; After putting in a diode, that part seemed to work, but this C41 seems to have gone south again. (and again (and again)), and its looking like a 4th one has failed. Symptoms seem to be an output impedance in the 100k region, making 375 rpm maximum, and dropping nearly 100 rpm