On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't want everyone to always use it, it can be kept as a helper and
> people who wish to have an abstract data model (usually void *) and
> access it as a list can provide the iterator. I use it in my mvc
> l
Before this turns completely into another license flame-war. Let's
step back and look at this from a more practical standpoint. I'm going
to list the set of arguments mentioned as to why we need LGPL, since
that is the point being argued, along with questions that would need
to be answered for this
minus the horrible color scheme.
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Ian Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing
> the site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius
> go ahead. I personally like
absolutely and I believe in redoing the navigation would involve redoing the
site. If anyone would like to share any other mock ups other than mekius go
ahead. I personally like simple site designs like this:
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/i/2008/126/3/0/Inkscape_Site_develfront_by_duckgoe
On 3-Aug-08, at 10:07 PM, Nick Hughart wrote:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> babbled:
>>
>>
>>> Ian Caldwell wrote:
>>>
Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on
all pages
>>>
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Yes, and it's up to the company to decide what they need to keep
>> private to
>> make money. That's how companies work. I don't see any reason why
>> we s
On 3-Aug-08, at 4:28 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> People contributing to the community? Sure that's ok for me. That's
>> ok for
>> everyone I believe. I think that's kinda the point. People
>> contributing
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>
>> Ian Caldwell wrote:
>>
>>> Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages
>>> that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:15:58AM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:53:14 -0500 Jess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > Well, I am new to their system, and am providing evaluations of systems and
> > processes to get them off of their SOC platform, and using Linux on ARM
> >
On 3-Aug-08, at 2:50 PM, Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine
>>> and that's exactly the pur
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:56:40 -0500 Jess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Duh... ;-)
>
>
> I am assuming that I could use raw sockets, noi? So possibly just step a
> little lower to ecore_con and transfer the bits that way?
ecore_con is raw sockets... unix or tcp sockets. ecore_con just wraps a
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:53:14 -0500 Jess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Well, I am new to their system, and am providing evaluations of systems and
> processes to get them off of their SOC platform, and using Linux on ARM
> embedded boards, and the discussion of IPC came up, and of course I said
> "
Duh... ;-)
I am assuming that I could use raw sockets, noi? So possibly just step a little
lower to ecore_con and transfer the bits that way?
Thanks again,
Jess
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 07:53:14PM -0500, Jess wrote:
> Hey Raster,
>
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:38:44AM +1000, Carsten Hait
Hey Raster,
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:38:44AM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:36:58 -0500 Jess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > Hello All,
> > I have used Ecore_IPC recently to allow two of my EFL based apps to inter
> > communicate. I had not previously used IPC ve
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> Rhino is java based, so that's out. Then we have SpiderMonkey, which is
> currently used by gecko1.9. That's not as fast as webkit's engine. Then
> there's tamarin, which is practically future proof, with its suppo
Talking about this, do e17 saves a log or somthing when SGV'D or other
crashes that are reported with the little white window? If so, where are
them stored? And, if stored somewhere, is it useful to send to somebody?
Where to send it?
Thank you in advance.
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Luchezar
defiantly but, The site should have links to all those resources so that you
know where they are. I think that's one of the major down falls of the
current site.
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 3:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hu
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Viktor Kojouharov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 09:17 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:04:53 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM, The Rasterman Carsten
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 09:17 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:04:53 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:35:39 -0300 "Gust
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:04:53 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:35:39 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >
> >> > I wou
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:35:39 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
>> > I wouldn't say lua isn't widespread, it's used in quite a few things
>> > including interface customization
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:35:39 -0300 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > I wouldn't say lua isn't widespread, it's used in quite a few things
> > including interface customization in World of Warcraft where it provides the
> > power to do some pretty advanced user interfaces.
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:05:31 -0400 Christopher Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>
>>> Yes, you're right, I have said that and I still think it's quite true.
>>> I was more thinking from a pure psychological point a view though, they
>>> just don't
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:36:58 -0500 Jess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Hello All,
> I have used Ecore_IPC recently to allow two of my EFL based apps to inter
> communicate. I had not previously used IPC very much (some of the sample apps
> from Stevens, and a few small tasks), and really started
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:05:31 -0400 Christopher Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> > Yes, you're right, I have said that and I still think it's quite true.
> > I was more thinking from a pure psychological point a view though, they
> > just don't like using CVS because to them it's old and o
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:33:34 -0500 Nick Hughart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Ian Caldwell wrote:
> > Yup, I'd like to eliminate submenus completely One navigation on all pages
> > that has links to pretty much everything. The goal of the new site is make
> > it a lot more usable. With regularly
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:49:05 +0200 Raoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Here is my feedback about Edje.
aaah raoul! - btw.. calaos is fantastic - what you've done is great and you
ahve heavily used efl... so it's one of the prime examples here and your input
is very important (as is that of any o
Nick Hughart wrote:
> Christopher Michael wrote:
>> Nick Hughart wrote:
>>> Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>
>> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_,
Christopher Michael wrote:
> Nick Hughart wrote:
>> Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said
Nick Hughart wrote:
> Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>>
Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine
and that's exactly the
Kind of like how you're ignoring every other company that has paid
someone to work on E in the past and had no issue with the license?
On Aug 3, 2008, at 3:31 PM, "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrot
Hisham Mardam Bey wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine
>>> and that's exactly the purpose to use BSD over LGPL
Hello All,
I have used Ecore_IPC recently to allow two of my EFL based apps to inter
communicate. I had not previously used IPC very much (some of the sample apps
from Stevens, and a few small tasks), and really started using the Ecore libs
as they seemed very easy to use, and didn't require a t
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:48 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, and it's up to the company to decide what they need to keep private to
> make money. That's how companies work. I don't see any reason why we should
> put restrictions on them as to what they can keep private.
Ok, so we
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> People contributing to the community? Sure that's ok for me. That's ok for
> everyone I believe. I think that's kinda the point. People contributing to
> the community works perfectly well under BSD and has been working perfe
Back to the original question... I don't intend to contribute to eina
if it's not BSD. The main reason (beyond my personal preference) is
that it is not consistent with the rest of the repository. This hurts
our ability to shift code within the repository
If I write a nice abstraction in another l
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:46 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>> Hey, but that's ok for _YOU_, isn't it?! You already said it's fine
>> and that's exactly the purpose to use BSD over LGPL. We're just being
>> more friendly an
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:30 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
On 3-A
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:27 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
On 3-A
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
On Sun, Au
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:07 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
On Sun, Au
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
It seems
On 3-Aug-08, at 1:04 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
It seems
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until now I
>>> didn't s
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Raoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But, I think there are more important issues with edje at this time. Writing
> edc using macros are a real pain and a waste of time. Macros are hard to
> write, hard to debug, hard to maintain and unreadable. We need a better way
>
On 3-Aug-08, at 12:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until
>> now I
>> didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that
>> topic
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It seems the license question is still very much discussed. Until now I
> didn't say much about it. But now I like to add my 2 cents to that
> topic.
>
> At work we develop software for embedded devices. In most cases is th
Le Saturday 02 August 2008 21:23:30 Carsten Haitzler, vous avez écrit :
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:58:05 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> babbled:
> > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:03:41 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3-Aug-08, at 3:38 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>> I won't help if it's LGPL. I also won't link to it in my code as I
>> won't fix bugs in it.
>
> People like Cedric and Gustavo and their companies are more open
> minded than you. Their companies work with and on the efl. With he
> BSD licence, t
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-08-03 07:10:13 -0700
Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs
Packages that failed to build:
enna http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log
epdf http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log
Packages
bugs.e.org
Having both Bugzilla and Trac may confuse users a bit, yes, but there is
written "for filing bugs -> bugs.e.org"
I still think that we should use just the one thing, personally I like Trac
better.
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I
Hello,
I just notices a bug in Enlightenment. I changed the resolution several
times and this is the result:
http://imagebin.org/23517
The shelf at bottom looks strange. And the right side "funny changes
color" by changing desktops. Looks like a not allocated image buffer or
something else.
I'm
Am Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:59:21 +0200 schrieb Jorge Luis Zapata Muga:
> License
> As most of the code on efl-research project (and most of *my* code) it
> does not have COPYING file, it was left out on purpose, basically to
> be able to discuss this "license issue" with e developers. We all have
> alr
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Vincent Torri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> People like Cedric and Gustavo and their companies are more open minded
> than you. Their companies work with and on the efl. With he BSD licence,
> their work can be stolen. But They are sufficiently aware of the
>
Jorge Luis Zapata Muga schrieb:
> Hi all, as you all (most) know, eina has hit proto cvs. I think
> several things have to be explained, references to eina's license,
> code and so have appeared on different threads and honestly following
> them all is very complicated and is also hard to actually
Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>
>
>>> 2. What will be the reaction from developers that want BSD license?
>>> from what i've deduced on IRC and ML, several of this developers
>>> *won't* contribute to this library if it is not BSD, (please those
>>> developers th
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008, dan sinclair wrote:
>> 2. What will be the reaction from developers that want BSD license?
>> from what i've deduced on IRC and ML, several of this developers
>> *won't* contribute to this library if it is not BSD, (please those
>> developers that think that this is point is
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