Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

Sheesh David, lighten up I guess you took my suggestion seriously...I was just joking. But now that you bring it up - -911 calls could be made to go thru all the time, there could even be a provision that says if you're driving, you can make 911 calls... (if there isn't already) -Cops beating

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

Amen, Lee. If quiet cars are truly the problem, the requirement should be universal. Singling out EV's certainly has the appearance - even if not the intent - of hostility and intentionally limiting their appeal. I tend to believe the current action is merely a case of narrow-mindedness, but

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by2019/09

still, without some pushback, we may increase the amount of noise from our >> current levels. That would be bad, in my opinion. >> >> Peri >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> To: ev@lis

Re: [EVDL] Noise

On 15 Nov 2016 at 14:50, wayne alexander via EV wrote: > The 86 was so quite I put a very small green light next to the key to > remind me it was running..you just could not hear it at all . Maybe you inside the car couldn't, but what about pedestrians outside on the street and sidewald? In

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

On 15 Nov 2016 at 12:40, Rush Dougherty via EV wrote: > Make one 2 ft or so from the curb that will stop the phone from > working and say something both audibly and visually ... I can just see this: You're reporting an emergency to 911 and you get cut off. You're recording a cop beating

[EVDL] Noise

For years car makers tried to out do each other in the ...quiet... Area. Now there is noise cancelling exhaust. Whoop_we_do. just more crap to go bad . I ownd 3 Rolls Royce,s in my life. A 67,79 And a 86. The 86 was so quite I put a very small green light next to the key to remind me it was

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

> -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Ed Blackmond via EV > Maybe we could have something that disabled cell phones. That would cure the distracted > driver problem too. Great idea! Sort of like the grocery market carts, when you cross their

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by2019/09

levels. That would be bad, in my opinion. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 15-Nov-16 4:27:39 AM Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115 The US government on Monday completed long-delay

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by2019/09

; Peri > > -- Original Message -- > From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: > Sent: 15-Nov-16 4:27:39 AM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115 > > > The US government on Monday completed long-delayed

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Has anyone noticed that this alleged safety feature simply removes by yet one more step the responsibility of the operator of the motor vehicle to be aware of his surroundings? If there's a pedestrian ahead who does not look and does not hear the motor vehicle approaching, it is the driver's

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[EVDL] Digital Deadwalkers : $52M/yr alert-sound adds noise pollution& not-a-solution

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Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by2019/09

I second Ed's suggestion. Is it telling that I had a bunch of guys in my car as passenger and while I was driving, my cellphone rang in my pocket. One of them told me that my phone was ringing, expecting me to answer it even though we were driving at high speed and I was concentrating on traffic,

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Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

My question was not about whether we like or dislike the idea of adding a noisemaker. (I don't, frankly.) The question is what can we do to ensure that the noise-making rules are designed in a manner that doesn't aggravate the ambient noise we already must tolerate. Is there a way to

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

> -Original Message- > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Thos True via EV >It is the pedestrian blinded by electronics technology that we need to concern >ourselves with! I couldn't agree with you more, how many times do we hear of or see utube videos of somebody

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Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

Lee said (in part): > If we're going to set some new standard, I think it should apply to > *all* vehicles, ICE as well as EV. That will prevent EV-haters from > legislating obnoxious standard *on purpose* to discourage EVs. It would > also put the general public on our side, as they don't

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

Peri Hartman via EV wrote: While there are obvious virtues to have EVs emit sounds, and I will not oppose the effort, what can we do to ensure the sounds are quiet enough and pleasant? It's always seemed to me that my EVs make plenty of noise (tires, wind, transmission and differential gear

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

ot; <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: > Sent: 15-Nov-16 4:27:39 AM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115 > > > The US government on Monday completed long-delayed rules that will require > "quiet cars" like electric vehic

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Thos True via EV wrote: > > .It is the pedestrian blinded by > electronics technology that we need to concern ourselves with! > Maybe we could have something that disabled cell phones. That would cure the distracted driver problem too. Ed

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

t; To: ev@lists.evdl.org > Cc: > Sent: 15-Nov-16 4:27:39 AM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115 > > > The US government on Monday completed long-delayed rules that will require > "quiet cars" like electric vehicles and hybrids to emit alert sound

Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09

. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "brucedp5 via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Sent: 15-Nov-16 4:27:39 AM Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115 The US government on Monday completed long-delayed rules that will require "quiet cars&qu

[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20161115

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