On 27 Sep 2013, at 20:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/27/2013 10:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 04:50, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/26/2013 7:33 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 14:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 6:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 13:03,
On 27 Sep 2013, at 20:10, David Nyman wrote:
On 27 September 2013 17:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The NDAA bill is equivalent with If you fear me, I will put you
indefinitely in jail.
I confess that I hadn't been giving this issue much attention.
However, I now read the
On 27 Sep 2013, at 19:55, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago
when you were discussing what a man in Helsinki would experience
when undergoing the duplicator experiment.
On 27 Sep 2013, at 21:54, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:37 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone who has a problem with Bruno's teleportation thought
experiment should logically have the same problem with the MWI.
No, you are entirely incorrect. The Many World's
On 28 Sep 2013, at 06:27, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
Teleportation thought experiments are also about what you can
expect to see.
And I have no objection to thought experiments of that sort, but
Bruno is not
On 28 Sep 2013, at 06:33, chris peck wrote:
Hi Russel
Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I think
Brent does too, because he said he had an initial reaction to the
step like this and then offered an analysis of the probabilities to
me all of which were
On 28 Sep 2013, at 07:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +, chris peck wrote:
Hi Russel
Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I
think Brent does too, because he said he had an initial reaction to
the step like this and then offered
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:29:17AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 07:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +, chris peck wrote:
Hi Russel
Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I
think Brent does too, because he said he
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe, as suggested by,
say, Max Tegmark?
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On 28 Sep 2013, at 06:02, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
I said that if Russell Standish were duplicated then Russell
Standish would be in Moscow and Washington.
This is only true from the POV of an external observer which
On 23 September 2013 13:16, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:29:30PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
Bruno, if you have something new to say about this proof of yours then
say it, but don't pretend that 2 years of correspondence and hundreds of
posts in
On 28 Sep 2013, at 10:17, LizR wrote:
On 23 September 2013 13:16, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:29:30PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
Bruno, if you have something new to say about this proof of
yours then
say it, but don't pretend that 2 years of
On 26 September 2013 17:27, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
Interesting. There's another thought experiment, or gambit, MWIers raise
involving quantum immortality.
In this, some quantum event at time t triggers a gun to shoot (or not
shoot) the MWIer.
Traditionally,
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 09:29:17AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 07:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +, chris peck wrote:
Hi Russel
Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint
On 28 Sep 2013, at 08:29, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
So it seems to me that all of us are situated within a spectacular
confluence of cosmological and biological factors.
The cosmological factors include the fact that dark energy hasn't
gotten strong enough to rip the whole works apart,
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
as suggested by, say, Max Tegmark?
Can you give a reference? Thanks,
Bruno
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On 28 September 2013 14:27, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com
wrote:
Teleportation thought experiments are also about what you can expect to
see.
And I have no objection to thought experiments of that sort, but
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Everett mention what you call feeling of identity, which is a
consequence of modeling the observer by a machine
It doesn't matter if modeling the observer by a machine is valid or not,
if tomorrow somebody remembers
On 9/28/2013 12:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
...
Prohibition is only a technic to sell a lot of drugs, without quality control, nor price
control, + the ability to directly target all kids on all streets, making huge black
markets, and leading to important corruption so that prohibition is
On 9/28/2013 12:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 19:55, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
mailto:li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago when
you were
discussing
On 9/28/2013 7:58 AM, John Clark wrote:
Does comp mean every event must have a cause? That question has a simple yes or no
answer, and you made up the word so you must know the answer, what is it? If it's yes
then I don't believe in this thing you call comp.
But the answer is yes in Everett's
I agree with most of what you wrote above, but that last is nonsense.
There is no way the government could have engineered the 9/11 attacks
without it being leaked even before it happened. Remember Occam, you need to
take the simplest explanation.
Brent I agree that logically it would seem
On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
Actually I think I got confused, it isn't Max T who suggested that, but
didn't someone like John Conway
On 9/28/2013 12:37 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
I agree with most of what you wrote above, but that last is nonsense. There is no
way the government could have engineered the 9/11 attacks without it being leaked even
before it happened. Remember Occam, you need to take the simplest
But supposing this giant and very loosely organized group is, as a group,
responsible for a bombing because some of it's explosives were used, is a
very big stretch. It's much simpler and more likely that a rouge element in
one small group, maybe even one man, stole the explosive for use in the
On 9/28/2013 4:28 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
But supposing this giant and very loosely organized group is, as a group, responsible
for a bombing because some of it's explosives were used, is a very big stretch. It's
much simpler and more likely that a rouge element in one small group,
On 23 September 2013 13:16, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:29:30PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
Bruno, if you have something new to say about this proof of yours then
say it, but don't pretend that 2 years of correspondence and hundreds of
posts in
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On 9/28/2013 4:28 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
But
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:47:28PM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 23 September 2013 13:16, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
For me, my stopping point is step 8. I do mean to summarise the
intense discussion we had earlier this year on this topic, but that
will require an uninterrupted
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 08:53:48AM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 28 September 2013 21:15, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 28 Sep 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
So not an ongoing computation performed by the universe,
What does that mean?
Actually I think I got confused, it isn't
Could quantum of light be the original source of life forming atoms ?
.
Lukin said. What we have done is create a special type of medium in which
photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as
though
they have mass, and they bind together to form
On 9/28/2013 7:20 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:47:28PM +1300, LizR wrote:
On 23 September 2013 13:16, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
For me, my stopping point is step 8. I do mean to summarise the
intense discussion we had earlier this year on this
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