RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Neil Standley
Ok, I’ll just take the dive and get the BPS and add some CALs to it. Thanks for the input. Neil From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access I don’t

RE: Public Folder problem in Outlook

2008-09-04 Thread Jim von Stein
She has 1 GB of RAM, with a little more than 1/3 of it in use. I haven't tried rebuilding the profile; I just talked to my assistant, who was hammering on the problem yesterday, and he saw the problem on the same workstation I'm using. At first, he could open it, then later, he couldn't. One addi

RE: Serious issue with POP3 in Exchange 2007

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
This is really an ISA issue. Perhaps Mr. Schindler will respond, but you might be better off asking your question on the ISAserver.org forms, or opening a support call with MSFT. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Liby Philip

RE: Copy HT/CAS config to another server

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
And further, I wrote this blog post on the topic: http://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael/archive/2008/09/04/exchange-20 07-backup-and-restore-the-minimum.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ehren Benson [mailt

RE: Public Folder problem in Outlook

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
How much memory does SHE have? Tried creating a new MAPI/Outlook profile? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jim von Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 5:13 PM To: MS-Exchang

Public Folder problem in Outlook

2008-09-04 Thread Jim von Stein
We're running XPSP3 workstations, Office 2003, Exchange 2003 Server on a Win2K3 server. One of my users has a distribution list in Public Folders with about 150 members. When she tries to open the list in Outlook to check/add members, she gets a "There is not enough memory on the Microsoft Exchan

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone
Nope. BIS queries OWA and downloads the mail to the BB. Think of it as a poor mans ActiveSync. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:08 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? Isn't this

RE: Copy HT/CAS config to another server

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124359(EXCHG.80).aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa998364.aspx and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997709(EXCHG.80).aspx tell you all you need to know. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exch

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone
I wouldn't use either. I would use BIS if I didn't have BES. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? I've been lurking on this discussion for a wh

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone
What cost benefit is that? From: Pete Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? Agreed, Our office has a bunch of berries that were rushed in by the CEO a few years ago. He loves it,

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone
I don’t think I have ever met a soul who uses IMAP on their BB. It’s usually BIS or BES or Desktop Redirector. That being said, I saw this today: http://crackberry.com/instant-imap-e-mail-bis-customers From: Neil Standley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:13

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
You betcha! Joe Louis Systems Network Manager -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? ...and management looks at commercials to make technical decisi

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
...and management looks at commercials to make technical decisions. -Original Message- From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? Realistic? Pfft, that's not in the commerc

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
Realistic? Pfft, that's not in the commercials! Joe Louis Systems Network Manager -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 3:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? Let's be realistic here, t

MessageSolution Archiving

2008-09-04 Thread Ralph Smith
Anyone have any experience with MessageSolution Enterprise Email Archiver? Ralph Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is add

RE: Exchange environment question

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
Sure sure. Something is wrong with what you currently have in your active directory and that is confusing the setup wizard. Now, if I were onsite, I wouldn't hesitate to go digging through your AD but I don't think it's really practical over a mailing list. I still guess that someone installed

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Schwartz, Jim
It would depend on the requirements of your organization. BES offers far more control over the remote devices but the upfront costs, license costs and support costs can get expensive if all you need is to lock the device and have the ability to remote wipe. Define your requirements and decide if y

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
Ah, but you are being realistic - unlike the purveyor of the toy - er, device. -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? Let's be realistic here, the

RE: Copy HT/CAS config to another server

2008-09-04 Thread Ehren Benson
Thanks! I also wondered if there is anything more to having users connect to their mailboxes through a different CAS server than having them change their configuration to connect to the new one (besides OL07 w/ autodiscover). Ehren J. Benson, MCSE Windows Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Barsodi.John
Let's be realistic here, the iPhone is NOT a corporate device. It's a consumer device trying to be a corporate device by implementing a subset of basic EAS features. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:33 AM

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I agree with you completely, but the OP was asking about what to do when starting from the ground up. That is why I stated that it is tough now to legitimize the expense of BES when it isn't already embedded in the environment. TVK -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

RE: Copy HT/CAS config to another server

2008-09-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
I can look this up for you later today, but I don't have access to all my resources right this minute. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ehren Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:18 PM To:

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
Actually SQL Express will work for smaller installations - may even come with it. From: Neil Standley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
The 2005 MSDE flavor (or whatever it’s called now) works just as well. Joe Louis Systems Network Manager Guardian Alarm Company (248) 423-1000 x1394 (248) 233-1394 (Direct) (248) 790-9458 (Cell) (248) 233-1389 (NOC) From: Neil Standley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008

Copy HT/CAS config to another server

2008-09-04 Thread Ehren Benson
Hi all, Does anyone know of an easy way to copy the exact configuration of a HT/CAS ex2007 server to another HT/CAS server? Background: I purchased another server to separate the mailbox role from HT/CAS and want to move the HT/CAS to the second server obviously, however I cant remember every

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Neil Standley
Understood, but from what I read you are required to have SQL 2005 installed as well. I’d also like to know what, if any IMAP clients folks are using. TIA, Neil From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread James Wells
True - but one thing it's not is proven. Microsoft has had some pretty bad hubris of late in assuming they can jump onto the scene after niche players have been providing a service for years, and offer a discounted price, while claiming that the products' small market share doesn't matter - becaus

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I know all about the history of RIM and the BlackBerry. I have used many different versions of them dating all the way back to when they more resembled a pager than a phone (anyone else remember being able to use one for the week of TechEd on a trial basis back in the late 90's?), and I would ne

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
Murray, there is isn't a need to buy the full version of BES. There is a BES Professional that has most (if not all) the same functionality of a full enterprise server. Joe Louis Systems Network Manager -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, S

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
Yup. That's the version I was speaking of. It's 50 devices and you get to get rid of the desktop redirectors that are a PITA. Joe Louis Systems Network Manager From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: BlackBe

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread James Wells
Yes, Blackberry may lose their service more often than they should. But they do have years and several versions on Exchange Activesync. Microsoft may finally have a solid solution with the needed management features and controls required by corporate customers...but those are first-generation prod

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
Actually any internal, presumed confidential email sent or copied to the forwarding user would be forwarded out to god knows where without the senders knowledge - so it's not just BB users. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 200

RE: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
I think there is a free BES for one user to which you can add $99 cals for additional BBs up to max of 5 to 15 or so - not sure of the exact numbers. Of course you'll have to have a server to run it on - can be VM or even workstation for that number of users. ___

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
Great - a corporate PDA/phone that REQUIRES "iTunes" - $#!^ !! -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? They will, we have several and our AS policy enf

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Plus you get to sit back and chuckle every month or so when the media reports about the next (seemingly dependable) outage of BB's network. ;-) Cheaper, more reliable, more functional and similar ease of use...add in Mobile Device Manager and you have mobile device encryption and mobile VPN throw

Re: BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Eric Woodford
Isn't BES only like $99/person for a CAL? (at least for small offices like this)? After something like 6 users, you need to upgrade the server software.. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Neil Standley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got a new BB Curve 8330 and wanted to setup IMAP access to o

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Murray Freeman
Using OWA takes care of syncing issues and apparently most other issues. Murray From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? Syncing contacts

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Murray Freeman
Obviously we're not very concerned with the security for the BB users. But OWA gives them access to contacts, calendar etc, and is using security. But it's damn hard to read on a BB screen. Murray -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Murray Freeman
Isn't this the very same thing as using the BB redirect client? Murray -Original Message- From: May, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? Your user here would be forwarding t

BlackBerry, IMAP and Public Folder access

2008-09-04 Thread Neil Standley
I just got a new BB Curve 8330 and wanted to setup IMAP access to our Exchange 2003 server. All that is, well sort of ok. Meaning I can connect, but real IMAP functionality isn't there, all you get is the inbox!!! So I've started my search for a full featured IMAP client that will give me access

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Steve Ens
Syncing contacts, calendar, notes...ability to remotely wipe...there is a long list. I've just implemented the BES...it drastically reduces my time spent on servicing handheld devices. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Murray Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been lurking on this discussi

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Eric Woodford
Unless the device is still running the older 3.6 handheld software, but then again, it is a good time to upgrade the firmware.. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Senter, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not only wipe but be useless until they plug it back into iTunes. At > least with a Blackberr

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Eric Woodford
Haven't found anyone willing to test it.. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:52 AM, James Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you actually seen any iPhones enforce that particular policy? > The documentation and all of our testing indicates that an iPhone > WON'T "wipe after xx bad PIN attempts". > > -

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Don Andrews
In a word, security. We never allow forwarding of all email to external mail accounts. Of course, we don't publish OWA either. BES gives lots more than simple push mail - like GAL access, contact and calendar sync, intranet access etc. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EM

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Senter, John
Yes that will work. I did it and found out the phone is a brick awards, until you reload the device with iTunes. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something e

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Senter, John
Not only wipe but be useless until they plug it back into iTunes. At least with a Blackberry, if you wipe the device by entering the password wrong it will still be usable once the Exchange data is removed. Then you all the admin guys and ask for a activation password, then you are all back in ac

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread May, Jeff
They will, we have several and our AS policy enforces the wipe. It does wipe on our 3G phones with the latest software update. That is our current holdup on release due to the need of iTunes for reactivation. -Original Message- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread James Wells
1) Outlook can't accomplish the same thing with default Exchange security. Auto-forwarding to the internet is disabled by default, and there are good reasons for it. This setting was changed if your users can do this in Outlook. 2) There's no security there. Email travels in transit over SMTP -

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread May, Jeff
Your user here would be forwarding to a personal account setup via BIS. So you have to ask yourself your security concerns, would you want email always going out to hotmail.com or what??? -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread James Wells
Have you actually seen any iPhones enforce that particular policy? The documentation and all of our testing indicates that an iPhone WON'T "wipe after xx bad PIN attempts". --James On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Eric Woodford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem we are having with our Windows M

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Eric Woodford
Problem we are having with our Windows Mobile devices is security. It's harder to enforce encryption and password policies on the Windows mobile devices. BES has this out of the box. Try telling that iPhone user that their device will wipe if they put their password in wrong 10 times... On Thu, S

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Murray Freeman
I've been lurking on this discussion for a while because we are small and only now have a small number of BB users. We started a couple of years ago with one BB for our CEO, and we just push his email to his BB using the redirector from BB installed on his workstation rather than the BES. In the la

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Jason Gurtz
> Then you have to use a very crappy web app, to check each > user to see what devices are showing up for them. Is this crappy web app IE only or will it work with FF, opera, etc...? ~JasonG, who is also wondering if Ex14 OWA Premium is gonna be fixed so it's cross browser compatible. It's time

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
I hear ya there. We're running E2k7. I just had to enter the URL in my Treo plus uname/pw. The majority of my user base would struggle with that; especially remotely. What I was referring to was the methodology from our BES. The user creation takes seconds, but them from there I can simply righ

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Troy Meyer
Hey Joe, FYI with E2K7, functional autodiscover services, and Windows Mobile 6.1 you need only the email address and domain password to enroll you phone for EAS, its super sweet. As is that same combo with an Outlook 2007 user where the autodiscover service automatically configures the correct

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Senter, John
If you have the money I strongly suggest Blackberry's. We have Good and Blackberry here and the central management is far better than Exchange and ActiveSync. Of course the cost is greater, but well worth it. BES uses a SQL database to manage the user configs and licensing. You do want to keep

RE: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Louis, Joe
I have both BBs and Windows Mobiles out there. Once you get over the idea and get the BES set up (I did it kicking and screaming), the BB that is out in the field is incredibly easy to enroll. And saying that doesn't do it justice. It is much easier that any way I know to remotely enroll a Windo

Re: Blackberry, or something else?

2008-09-04 Thread Pete Howard
Agreed, Our office has a bunch of berries that were rushed in by the CEO a few years ago. He loves it, so we keep them and they work well but I'm going to have him try a Windows mobile device and explain the cost benefit Pete Howard | Systems Engineer MCSE 3.51-2003 | ESX VCP *EMail: [EMAIL

RE: Exchange environment question

2008-09-04 Thread tgonzalez
Wrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange environment question Michael, heres the environment, 1 exchange 2003 sp2 on a windows 2003 r2 with sp1 trying to put up an additional exchange

RE: Exchange environment question

2008-09-04 Thread tgonzalez
Michael, heres the environment, 1 exchange 2003 sp2 on a windows 2003 r2 with sp1 trying to put up an additional exchange 2003 on win 2003 r2 with sp1 setup the front and back end environment but I don't have a ADC or STC, I'm just not sure what is occurring, this org never had

Serious issue with POP3 in Exchange 2007

2008-09-04 Thread Liby Philip Mathew
Hi All, I am desperate having a serious issue with my POP3 clients. At times clients are able to send mail and at times not able to. But they always receive mails. I have published OWA, OA, POP3 587 and POP3 995 on ISA 2006 SP1. I have 2 Exchange 2007 Ent. SP1. My internal server kwmail.path.loc